⬆️ @Nochem
>> We live in the real world, not the biblical world

You shouldn't skip the biblical accounts because #Hamas insists on #Islam as the foundation for the doctrine of defending and protecting #Palestine.

But, if you insist on skipping 1000s of years of history, at least continue with last ~150 years or so (not just 75) with the #RussianRevolution of 1881 and #FirstAliyah ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111972829551469697

@escarpment @lukevanin

⬆️ @oatmeal

Even ignoring the biblical account of #FirstExodus prior to 12th c. BCE, we have documented history of MULTIPLE #JewishDisplacements

740 BC: #FirstJewishExile
586 BC: #SecondJewishExile
540 BC: Fall of #Babylon; Return to #Judah

1881: #RussianRevolution; #FirstAliyah
1904: #SecondAliyah

And the virulent #antisemitism in #EasternEurope and #Germany that climaxed in the #Holocaust in the early 20th century — ALL happened before your #cherryPicked date of 1948.

@lukevanin
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@Darryl

Oh no no, you don't get to #cherrypick the time frame when it suits you.

12th c.BCE arrival of #Philistines in #Canaan, ignoring that #Jews were present since before that

1917 First wave of #Zionists, ignoring #Paltestinian hatred against #Jews since before the #FirstAliyah -- Why is it ok to bring Zionism up from more than 100 years ago, but not #Arabism?

>> What #Hamas did 2 mo ago is not the issue ➡️ https://kolektiva.social/@Darryl/111570840047394442

Now you want to go back 50 years & blame #US?

@ashmueli

Darryl 🇵🇸 🇺🇦 ⸸ (@[email protected])

@[email protected] What Hamas did two months ago is not the issue. Keep up. The issue is the magnitude more civilians Israel is killing right NOW! And the magnitude higher again, people that will carry life long injuries. And the even higher magnitude again of people that are permanent homeless. Next to that the carnage that Hamas did seems like a walk in the park.

kolektiva.social

⬆️ @NLAWScametovisit

I'm sorry to disappoint you, if you came here looking for #Islamophobia.

My toot was about #comfortingLies & #unpleasantTruths involving

1. Militant Terrorism — #AxisOfResistance

2. Geopolitical Calculations — #Arabism

3. History of #Palestine before #FirstAliyah — which predates #Zionism

I DO try different angles to make things exciting. Which of the 3 angles did you find new, exciting, or racist, & why?

Please share to help me hone my message! Thx

@nogodsnomasters

@wolfsbruder

Repeated #Jewish #displacement crystallizes NEED for Jewish home ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494007586354401

No label is needed. We ought to accommodate the repeatedly marginalized

But it's the label that gives rise to political #jingoism on both sides. Most people are not ready, willing, or able to look past the label

Also Jewish exclusion attempts in #Palestine predate #FirstAliyah, which itself predates #Zionism ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111494053066953051

The real problem is #Arabism ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111518104428222810

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#FirstAliyah predates #Zionism.

#Zionist Movement was born of reasons well-known, among which was virulent #antisemitism in #Europe & #Russia.

#Palestinian authorities, themselves under #Turkish #occupation, begged #Ottomans to prohibit #Russian #Jews from immigrating even before the arrival of Zionists — most of whom arrived only after #WWI.

Prior to #WWI, #Palestinian #grievance against Jews was one of #economic #competition, not #occupation or #oppression.

They never tolerated Jews

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#Palestinians loudly complain of #displacement, but they aren't the only ones who have been displaced in history.

15+ million #Hindus & #Muslims were displaced after #BritishIndia was partitioned into #India and #Pakistan in 1947.

#Jewish people suffered displacement MULTIPLE times, even ignoring #FirstExodus prior to 12th c. BCE:

740 BC: #FirstJewishExile
586 BC: #SecondJewishExile
540 BC: Fall of #Babylon; Return to #Judah

1881: #RussianRevolution; #FirstAliyah
1904: #SecondAliyah
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