⬆️ @The_Caretaker@cr8r.gg
>> …#Jews… left #Palestine a thousand years ago. They never ruled it…
Not "left." Driven out.
>> #Palestinians never put their land up for sale.
It wasn't "their" land to begin with. They came from #Crete in #Greece.
Palestinians have not "ruled" that land for 500+ years being under the #TurkishYoke since 1517.
>> This is just another #Crusade but this time control over #oil is involved.
The disputed land is SO RICH in OIL 🙄
>> You mean when #Europe gave #Israel the state that #Palestine had?
There's a reason why the description of "Politically and geopolitically ignorant and morally bankrupt #eejits" stings. Truth!
Palestinians have not had a "state" in 500+ years. Since 1517 and until #WWI, they were oppressed under the #TurkishYoke.
Instead of watching YouTube videos, crack open a REAL #history book. There are many, or you could start here ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111468900312146738
⬆️ @homohortus
>> So it was Turkey that antagonized BOTH Arabs and British.
Under threat from #CUP, and still under the #TurkishYoke, #Arabs approached #Britain and offered to revolt against #Turks in exchange for British recognition of #Arab independence from #OttomanEmpire.
British had rebuffed Arabs too, just as they had rebuffed #Zionists, but Turkish entry in #WWI changed everything and Britain agreed to work with Arabs.
THAT led to the #ArabRevolt, NOT #McMahonHusseinCorrespondence
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⬆️ @ajaykaul10
Pretty ambitious coverage of such an expansive topic in ~20 minutes!
Not many people talk about the #Armenian #genocide in which Muslims in the #OttomanEmpire killed so many #Christians.
Even fewer talk about #Turkey's role in sealing the fate of #Palestine when Turkey entered WWI on the side of Central Powers despite British entreaties to exit.
The British repeatedly offered Turkey an opportunity to keep Palestine, which was under a #TurkishYoke since 1517, but Turkey refused
⬆️ >> #Palestinians never fought for freedom
They never fought for freedom despite being under the #TurkishYoke since 1517 the way #Arabs under #Hussein did in 1917.
That’s how Arabs earned their freedom, but Palestinians never did.
Instead, egged on by Arab neighbors, they let the neighbors fight #inTheirName ever since 1947 (and later #Hamas) without taking their destiny in their own hands
@ajaykaul10 @ekis @Properganda @tartley @Lane @chiclet @GatekeepKen @nikatjef @Grant_M @CivilityFan
⬆️ @ekis
You could not defend your day 0 canard, tucked your tail between you hinds, refused to learn history when given a relevant hashtag #TurkishYoke, berated people to search google, and latched on to newer and even more fanciful stories about #USSR existing in many possible worlds
Your friend talks the same, mentioning 2024, but jumping to 3rd millennium flying high on drugs.
You are not worth engaging.
@MishaVanMollusq @chiclet @Properganda @GatekeepKen @nikatjef @Grant_M @CivilityFan
⬆️ @ekis
>>>> This didn't start Oct 7th, no one thinks that was day 0.
>>> I mentioned #TwoStateSolution in 1947, but you clearly showed your ignorance of what happened in 1947. What is day 0 according to you?
>> We don't need a day zero, we need justice today.
What a shame to invoke day 0, and then tuck your tail in your hinds when challenged
Start with hashtag #TurkishYoke. You can’t get justice today without learning history
@Properganda @GatekeepKen @nikatjef @Grant_M @CivilityFan
⬆️ @ekis
>> This didn't start Oct 7th, no one thinks that was day 0.
I mentioned #TwoStateSolution in 1947, but you clearly showed your ignorance of what happened in 1947.
What is day 0 according to you?
Do you want to start in 1517 when the onerous #TurkishYoke fell on the #Arabs in #Palestine?
#Palestinians have not been free in over 500 years. Where on the calendar do you want to start as day zero?
@Properganda @GatekeepKen @nikatjef @Grant_M @CivilityFan
>> When they refused to let some European colonizers steal their land, that's "rejecting freedom"?
In 1947, they rejected freedom — a #UN #TwoStateSolution for an INDEPENDENT #Palestine, separate from #Israel
For 450 years prior to that, they were ok being under #TurkishYoke or #BritishMandate, but when actual freedom arrived, they spat on it.
They also rejected freedom in 2000 at #CampDavid ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/112441847344403701
⬆️ @samhkennedy
>> If #Israel had followed any form of legal process, not funded Hamas to undermine any peace process maybe things would have been different
Skipping a lot of #history? My timeline is FULL of that. Look for #TurkishYoke, #ThievesBanquet, #DamascusProtocol, #Arabism, #ArabNationalism, #permanentStateOfWar, #inTheirName…
Before Israel funded Hamas, #Palestinians kicked offer for free state in 1947 & joined Arabs in war. If they hadn’t done that, Israel wouldn’t need to fund Hamas
Ramesh #NotGoingBack