⬆️ @Tattered

>> I think we can both agree that what #India has now is much better than the #British #Raj. The separation of states, good or bad in itself, was managed disastrously, though.

Sure. This gets to the crux of the matter — The difference between an #idea and its #implementation.

Idea of a #TwoStateSolution was better for #India - #Pakistan. It was better for #Israel - #Palestine too — had the latter not recklessly rejected it in 1947 in pursuit of #PanArabism #Arabism.

@badrihippo

⬆️ @InternetDev

>> And for good reason: it was #Germany that should have given part of its territory, not the #Palestinians, where the #Jews lived in peace before 1948.

No, that wasn't a good reason.

#Arab & #Palestinian calls for #Arabism or #PanArabism in a land that #Jews had occupied since pre-biblical times was emblematic of same #antisemitic behavior rampant in Germany, #Russia, and Eastern #Europe even before #Hitler's #Lebensraum.

@Faithslayer202 @Lassielmr
https://www.state.gov/reports/just-act-report-to-congress/germany/

⬆️ @MyNewMinuteNewt @enoch_exe_inc @rightardia @vgoller @prolrage @redfrog

>> Freedom is supposed to be the default state of humanity. This is real life

"supposed to be" is idealism, not real life.

In real life, we fight to keep our democracy. The default is anarchy. It requires constant struggle to remain free.

For 400 yrs, subjugation by Turks & Brits was not a problem for Palestinians. In 1947 they rejected freedom ➡️ https://mastodon.social/@rameshgupta/111493882749029059

#Arabism

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⬆️ @samhkennedy

>> If #Israel had followed any form of legal process, not funded Hamas to undermine any peace process maybe things would have been different

Skipping a lot of #history? My timeline is FULL of that. Look for #TurkishYoke, #ThievesBanquet, #DamascusProtocol, #Arabism, #ArabNationalism, #permanentStateOfWar, #inTheirName…

Before Israel funded Hamas, #Palestinians kicked offer for free state in 1947 & joined Arabs in war. If they hadn’t done that, Israel wouldn’t need to fund Hamas

⬆️ @taylorlorenz

>> “At some point — whatever the justification — you’re either advancing a policy that enables the mass starvation of children, or you’re not.”

There is no nuance in this statement.

The world is not binary. It’s not black and white.

The justification could be self-preservation — one’s own survival and the survival of one’s nation and entire race (including children of that race).

#Eliminationism #Arabism #ArabNationalism

⬆️ #EcstasyAndAmnesia #GazaStrip

The same dynamic repeated itself 20 years later.

The weeks leading up to the 1967 war were, in the #Arab world, likewise a time of public displays of #ecstasy. The hour of “#revenge” was nigh, and the excitement was expressed in both mass public spectacles and elite opinion.

The #Egyptian president Gamal Abdel #Nasser promised an elated crowd the week before the war broke out that “our basic objective will be to destroy #Israel.

#Arabism #ArabNationalism

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⬆️ #EcstasyAndAmnesia #GazaStrip

This pattern was set in motion by the first of the wars. The vote by the #UN General Assembly in 1947 to partition #BritishPalestine into two states, one #Jewish and one #Arab, set off an explosion of violence against local Jewish communities almost immediately in #Palestine itself.

If there were doubts about the justice of the cause being fought for—preventing the establishment of a Jewish state—there is little record for that.

#Arabism #ArabNationalism

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⬆️ @TruthSandwich@toad.social @notwithstanding @8124@babka.social @martin

>> What happened thousands of years ago is literally ancient history. It doesn't matter who owned what land back then. It doesn't matter today, except that it provides a mythology that leads to delusions of nationalism.

Good luck getting #Hamas to shed the delusions of #ArabNationalism

The present #MiddleEast quagmire is only about ~100 years old, not thousands.

It is rooted in #Arabism that would not tolerate #Jews. But losers can't chose.
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