And yeah, stuff using #Facebook logins was already a big red flag back then.

  • But then again I'm the kind of person that refused to use #BlueStacks when they didn't enable #eMail login.

That being said demanding a login isn't somcething I'd accept today anymore!

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@tantacrul I couldn't bear ever making a #StasiBook account...

  • So I guess I dodged not a bullet, but rather a grand slam bomb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyJBJTHyO0&t=1587s

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@tantacrul And when I looked up #Facebook's ToS it took me mere seconds to recoil in disgust and "NOPE!" that shit...
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@tantacrul Personally, I want #ShadowProfiles to be outlawed...
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#Zuckerberg doesn't understand or rather doesn't give a fuck why people feel violated by his shitsite!
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I knew #Facebook acted as a #cult but this is just extreme...
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What we know from #Facebook being the #unmoderated #DumpsterFire in terms of #politics is that their "#neutrality" empowers #aggressors like #Disinformation campaigns from #Russia and will amplify #racists, #fascists and #reactionaries with their #RageBait and #Hatespeech!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyJBJTHyO0&t=4747s video via @tantacrul

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@tantacrul the funny part is that I remember folks dismissing #CambridgeAnalytica but that's just the scandal we know of...

  • Now imagine what a few carefully-planted attackers on behalf of nations could do...
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I'm glad #Facebook's #ZeroRating shitshow got banned in many places...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyJBJTHyO0&t=5527s

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And yes, #Facebook is directly responsible for the #RohyingaGenocide in #Burma aka. #Myanmar!

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No wounder #Zoomers are so fucked-up:

5-year olds having #Instagram accounts is as healthy to them as showing Deathwatch to some 7-yr old kid or giving 9 year olds a HDD with Terabytes of Pr0n.

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In my eyes, #Facebook is worse than #KiwiFarms by virtue of not being some shitty outcast's forum where a dozen people are #hategrooming each other, but a "#Normie" Site that chose to not just #platform, but #amplify #disinformation and #hatespeech, because #Zuck said so!
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And this is the moment #Facebook decided to abandon any commitment to #truth, #integrity or #moderation because by that logic all someone needs to be bulletproof from #moderators is getting any sort of political office, candidacy or party membership and thus they can spout the wildest bs and never face any repercussions whatsoever!

At which point does this make them a criminal enterprise, @Bundesregierung ?

  • When they openly platform and boost holocaust deniers??
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I mean, it's just absurd how #Facebook actively demolished any #moderation team they had on purpose...

  • So the 2024 #US elections were basically flooded with #disinformation by bad actors foreign and espechally domestic.

Nowadays we see #Zuck succ Trumps boot hard af!

#USpol #Trump #HateBook

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#TheFacebookFiles are sadly nothing new - it's just #evidence that they are evil!

  • Seriously...
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To anyone who didn't live under the rock or completely airgapped, #Facebook being evil was as much of news as "RT spreading lies and transmisogynist hatespeech" or "rain is wet"...
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Like I don't have nor ever had a #Facebook account but none of this was new or surprising at all to me...
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But in return, #KOSA, like #FOSTA & #SESTA, is one of the worst things the #US made as legislation in my lifetime - if not ever in it's existance.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyJBJTHyO0&t=8253s

Because it's some half-baked "But we're doing something!" activism without banning #Facebook's business practises of pushing #manipulative content and #disinformation - espechally towards minors!

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The fact that #TedCruz is right on this one is still fascinating. cuz otherwise he's a POS!

  • Granted there is no legitimate reason to host, display of share #CSAM - espechally not for #Facebook.

The most they would have an interest in is reporting confirmed CSAM to the LEAs of the users' location, removing it and adding the checksum of said content to their already existing #UploadFilters.

#USpol

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#Section230 / #OCILLA / #DMCA would only cover #Facebook's ass until the point they got informed about the offending content...

  • That protection ceases the moment a #hoster / #platform decides to not give a shit!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyJBJTHyO0&t=8496s

#NotLegalAdvice

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Obviously I'm not gonna blame @tantacrul for missing #NetzDG at that point cuz it's #Germany-specific and didn't get much international coverage either, except when #Trump's regime decried it as #censorship because it means that Holocaust Deniers don't get recommended and their content #geoblocked by #GAFAMs...

#USpol #disinformation #Facebook

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If the #holoLens wasn't an overpriced, bulky, #Windows-Only #AR headset I would've considered dabbling in it.

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And #Zuckerberg refusing to do #interviews with anyone who isn't giving him a good succ is in my eyes really shallow and a huge red flag of a #cyberfascist #dictator unwilling to face #opposition...

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So yeah, that warning @tantacrul added is warranted!
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Seriously, for #PayOrOkay being banned I've seen a shitload of sites still doing that.

  • Who can I report offending sites to?

@noybeu @Bundesverband

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The main propblem that I see with #DSA violations is the fact that "If the penalty for a crime is a fine, it's only illegal for the poor!", meaning that #NSAbook / #StasiBook will see violating #DataProtection as a mere "#BusinessExpense" in the #EU as none of the Execs get arrested, jailed or even wanted for questioning.

  • If I'd have the same nonchalant attitude towards #laws, @Bundesregierung would push for prosecution and courts to declare such a business run by me a "criminal enterprise" and seize all the assets it has...

Video via @tantacrul

#DigitalServicesAct #EUpol #Facebook

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Seriously, #Facebook abusing their #users as #AI #sources and maximizing #DarkPatterns is not coincidential, and I wounder how people who don't have or want a Facebook account can actually object against that shit or #ShadowProfiles without #SelfDoxxing and gambling on #StasiBook having good vibes that day...
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Maximizing friction is not an accident but desired #DarkPattern!
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Obviously #LLama was trained on private comms of #Facebook & #WhatsApp.

  • Why else would they use said data for in "#AI"...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyJBJTHyO0&t=9648s

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Obviously a #business with #Thiel involved is gonna be a net negative because #PeterThiel doesn't believe in #competition but wants #monopolies!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyJBJTHyO0&t=9697s

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Granted, gambling that #Facebook / #NSAbook / #StasiBook won't make "a better copy" of your business is a terrible idea!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyJBJTHyO0&t=9742s

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..and that's the digital equivalent of robbing an unconcious person in a hospital...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPyJBJTHyO0&t=9861s

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@tantacrul Taking the #USA as example would've been more realistic, given the amounts of money on the line in #USpol and #elections there in detail.
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Obviously #Facebook could destroy the #AccountSaleMarket and #GroupSaleMarket by automatically kicking all members of a group upon renaming and giving every [former] member a message that the [former group name] was renamed to [current group name] and that they can choose to rejoin or staying out said group, and until they decide to so, auto-remove them.

  • But they want "number go up" so they'll never advertise the number of active users cuz that number is lower than the number of [unclosed] accounts...
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Yeah, I guess @tantacrul will recognize that this part really 'aged like fine #Maotai' aka. horrible, not just in hindsight...

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But at least @tantacrul realized that #QuiBono is something he'd have to ask more often...
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"Leaving out those little details, didn't #Bloomberg?"
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That's some solid #astroturfing claiming to be in favour of #creatives defending "#AIart"...

  • I've yet to encounter a #creative that has ever struggled to make ends meet with #comissions to be in favour of "#AI" Art not out of self-preservation but because "AI" can't even do basic recolours.

Shit that takes literal seconds in #GIMP of all tools...

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I've to agree with Section 230 authors in that "#AI" should not be untouchable!
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So yeah, the only working strategy is to yeet #Facebook.

And I think @tantacrul being on the #Fediverse is the right step in the direction - at least as a deliverate choice.

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So yeah, that should end this thread then...
Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])

Content warning: Long thread abuut NSAbook strap in!

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@kkarhan As an experiment, I asked Copilot to remove the background (the yard outside my work, and my garden) from pictures with a small dog and 2 cats (leaving me with the animal on a transparent background).

Rather than even admit the background was too busy and / or the animal pictures too small (although they could have been done manually by zooming into the photo), I got returned pictures of an entirely different dog (short haired Patterdale rather than Patterdale/Yorkshire cross) and two ginger cats became one ginger cat and a tabby.

OK this isn't photography for a zoology research paper, but the worst part was the whole bullshitting (rather than simply admitting it wasn't possible to do what I had asked), no way would I trust this for anything critical..

@vfrmedia @kkarhan

In the not too distant future when AI is flying planes and a fire starts onboard, the pilot will find that he can't override the AI and the AI will decide to fly to a higher altitude because then when it shuts off the oxygen supply to passengers and crew, that will cut off air to the fire and put it out.

Or it will decide to make an emergency landing even though it's flying over a forest where there are no roads that it could possibly land on...

Or if it's over water, it will try to land at sea and pop open all the emergency doors to get water onboard to quench the fire...

Or it will radio for a fire truck and continue cruising at 30,000 ft...

Or it will turn itself into a loving religious AI bot and begin administering last rites...

Horrible.

@bkahn @vfrmedia And now you know why despite the fac that extremely tight regulation and order in #CivilAviation makes #Pilots one of the easiest to automate jobs, there's still the legal mandate to have 2 highly-trained professionals onboard that can if necessary go completely manual & visual at any moment in time should there be some hiccup or issue ranging from turbulences to medical emergencies to having to hold a waiting pattern next to the destination airport because another plane with urgency had to come in first of the wind has changed so having to approach 180° from the original plan is a desired to shorten the needed runway and enable a smoother landing...

  • Stuff like that...

Besides, #pilots and #persons can be made liable, not computers.

  • This is why pilots have to submit their flight plans before takeoff because they are supposed to think before acting...