ONLYOFFICE suspends its 8-year partnership with Nextcloud after the Euro-Office fork allegedly violated AGPL v3 licensing. ⚖️
OnlyOffice says no customers are affected, highlighting tensions around transparency, contributor rights, and software sovereignty. 🖥️
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@thelinuxEXP In some way what OnlyOffice did there is the enshitification of the AGPL, the AGPL normally was considered to be the more stringent brother of the #gpl as it required that e.g clients of a web service needed to have access to the source code.
Now basically adding additional rules to it as your video implies is like a cynical attack on the GPL itself. Considering that maybe OnlyOffice is powered by the Russian government and that there were strategies in the past to make concepts unattractive to people by introducing cynicism, doubt, fear or simply FUD into the believes of people, then it would not be a stretch, that this was intentional to manipulate Free Software as an idea.
Kind of like what Microsoft did for many years and which is also one reason why Microsoft Office is so prevalent.
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Le conflit entre OnlyOffice et le consortium Euro-Office soulève une question que le monde du logiciel libre n'a jamais vraiment tranchée. Jusqu'où un auteur peut-il imposer ses conditions dans une licence open source sans créer une contradiction interne ?
I knew the AGPL as a license that prohibits "storming off and making it a commercial offering".
The license that Redis and Elasticsearch should have used instead of fucking around with custom licenses when Amazon took their stuff, made paid offerings out of it and gave nothing back to them.
OnlyOffice's AGPL is limited by a phrase saying:
- You have to use the OnlyOffice logo if you fork it
...and another phrase that says
- You have no rights to use the OnlyOffice logo.
Apparently the AGPL inventor and the FSF side with Nextcloud on this.
OnlyOffice's AGPL isn't really opensource if it enforces crap like that.
https://www.heise.de/en/news/Euro-Office-OnlyOffice-accuses-of-license-violations-11241334.html
#foss #opensource #notalawyer #nextcloud #onlyoffice #eurooffice #agpl #copyleft
@ONLYOFFICE here is my understanding of the licensing:
AGPL License term 7.b says you may supplement the terms of the License with terms:
> a) [...]
> b) Requiring preservation of specified reasonable legal notices or author attributions in that material or in the Appropriate Legal Notices displayed by works containing it;
> c) [...]
What are those Appropriate Legal Notices? FSF has an article on it:
https://www.fsf.org/blogs/community/gpl-compliant-legal-notices-author-attributions
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🚩 ONLYOFFICE flags license violations in “Euro-Office” project
｢ We require full and immediate compliance with all applicable licensing conditions, including — but not limited to — the preservation of ONLYOFFICE branding, logo, and all required attribution elements as defined in our licensing terms ｣
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