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Put your boots on and push them back.
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Would be a long appreciated turn of events. But I currently don't really believe your words. Considering esp. current political decisions like buying Palantir from Peter Thiel or increasing outsourcing to Microsoft and Google in regards to Governmental data.
Currently all of this appears to be empty promises and nothing more.
It's time to do as you say. Like e.g. start by getting all political parties, govs, and governmental data of esp. citizens off of US clouds and control...
@agowa338 @EUCommission not to mention #ChatControl, which would potentially send every message with “suspicious data” send by or between European citizens to the US for vetting on US build and controlled systems running US bias models.
And that’s not even the full extend of that European nightmare Big American Brother idea.
True, their actions are currently definitely not consistent and scream virtue signalling...
@EUCommission These words ring increasingly hollow. I hope you hear it too.
The EC's silent support for Israel, the insistence on the awful CSAM proposal, the weakening of the Green Deal...
@EUCommission Freedom as in #ChatControl? Freedom as in border controls right at the #Schengen Luxembourg-Germany border?
No thanks.
@hambier @EUCommission those border controls are so illegal that I'd certainly refuse to stop and just drive through.
#NotLegalAdvice but #SchengenBorderConvention is pretty clear re: #BorderControls and their illegality beyond mutually agreed upon avtions and specific exemptions that are obviously non-applicable as of writing.
@EUCommission Yeah.. Freedom, democracy, and all the fancy words in the name of our good.
But from the other side you're forcing shit like this described in the article:
https://tuta.com/blog/chat-control-criticism
You know what?
Stop making idiots from the people.
If you are idiots by yourself, that's fine. But don't make idiots from the other, unaware of your shady plans people!
That's not democracy, that's not freedom!
That is not "for our" good nor security and such.
Keep this bullshit for yourself please! 🤮
@MartinaNeumayer as long as #Zensursula is allowed to head @EUCommission, #cyberfascist attacks by the #EU on fubdamental #HumanRights like #privacy will continue.
It was so bad that victims of sexual abuse had to unite and form a representation with @MOGiS and tell her to 'shut up and not use their trauma as a club to attack #CivilRights'…
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Hello @ranx!
Let us be clear: under this proposal, there is no general monitoring of online communications. There will be no such thing as “chat control”.
Only material that is clearly child sexual abuse will be searched for and can be detected.
Detection orders can only be issued by judicial or independent administrative authorities at the end of a thorough process to assess necessity and proportionality, balancing all the fundamental rights at stake.
Only material that is clearly child sexual abuse
Maybe this is meant as known material? In that case, you can e.g. calculate a hash value.
"clearly"? That sounds like magic unicorn technology.
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That's why I asked for clarification.
Maybe they are misinformed. Maybe they are bad with words. Maybe they even have a relaxed relationship with the truth.
@wakame @ww @ranx either way, I won't obey #cyberfacist laws that violate my Constiutional Rights as a German Citizen to #Privacy, but encrypt harder...
That's NOT a threat, just me "reading the room" and telling folks like #Zensursula that it's a bad Idea to walk across a frozen lake with a plasma torch pointed at the ice in front of one's feet...
@EUCommission @ranx
Thanks to the use of good-guys-only backdoor, because that's totally a possible thing that exists. Yeah, right. 🙄
@EUCommission @ranx I'm happy to see you respond to critical comments!
You can't detect illegal materials inside a message without accessing the message contents. Whether you AI-scan the message contents before they are sent or break the encryption afterwards, it will have very negative consequences.
There are many govt and non-govt organisations protecting children and they tend to be woefully underfunded. Please consider funding them instead of focusing on broken ideas.
@EUCommission @ranx the only way to detect the sought content is to collect and analyse all content.
The carve out for politicians makes it obvious.
@david01928 @EUCommission @ranx @Em0nM4stodon also even if the courts would greenlight this #cyberfascism it would be unenforceable because not even #NorthKorea, "P.R. #China", #Russia, #USA and #UK get their #cyberfascist shite to work despite #Intranet|ting or at least #Splinternet|ting their nation.
In fact, I'd love to do some @cryptoparty / @cryptoparty / #CryptoParty again…
as a little privacy advocate let us break it down one by one
"Let us be clear: under this proposal, there is no general monitoring of online communications. There will be no such thing as “chat control”."
wanna know what the definition of insanity is? Step aside far cry 3 character, we got a new champ on the block (1/4)
"Only material that is clearly child sexual abuse will be searched for and can be detected."
It always child sexual abuse at first until it is everything bloody else and destroying activisits and whisteblowers who make the world a better place, NOT MENTIONING the potential false positive that turns to potential false arrest with no way to gain justice, is this the europe the commision, the parliament, the citizens wanted? And the surveillance being centralized? WORSE| 2/4
and the MULTIPLE WARNINGS ISSUED BY EXPERTS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT BEING THAT THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS BACKDOOR FOR THE GOOD GUYS
"Detection orders can only be issued by judicial or independent administrative authorities at the end of a thorough process to assess necessity and proportionality, balancing all the fundamental rights at stake."
Ok Far Cry 3 character, come back and explain the definition of insanity over and over again to them (3/4)
*and honestly "definition of insanity" statements are the most polite way to say "bullshit", it cannot get any more polite than this* (4/4)
[If you are curious where this come from, this is a great reddit thread that described the transcript: https://eu.safereddit.com/r/fuckubisoft/comments/1ee8a4l/the_definition_of_insanity_by_vaas_montenegro/ (click on random instance to make it work)]
That might work on evenint news, but not around here.
Phony shit. Just what we‘re used from your fine president.
@Saupreiss @EUCommission @ranx yeah, #Zensursula still doing the same old shit...
@EUCommission "Only material that is clearly child sexual abuse will be searched for and can be detected."
Whoever is responsible for this “response” deserves a raise for their outstanding achievements in bullshitting Europeans. The above quote sounds benign and harmless, but in reality it means the following:
Every message *may* contain child abuse content, therefore every message will be scanned.
@EUCommission @ranx IT is not magic!
If you want to detect whether a given message contains CSAM you obviously *have* to let it be scanned by some detection algorithm / machine learning. Otherwise you simply can't know...
In other words *each and every* message would have to be exposed to the threat of false positives. It is completely outrageous that you try to pretend otherwise!
I have a question about: "Only material that is clearly child sexual abuse will be searched for and can be detected."
How? How will one determine when it's "sexual abuse" on all media? One has to scan each and every single media file to find these, I do not see any other way
Don't get me wrong, I would love a better way to deal with CSAM content but scanning all to find the few is not the way
For any system to scan for any content, it needs the data to be unencrypted.
So, if this system is a legal requirement, it also makes end-to-end encryption illegal because it requires giving authorities some kind of method to decrypt anything that any user sends or receives.
Regardless of how it is intended to be used, this system will give authorities the technical ability to monitor anything said by anyone, regardless of whether an order has been sought or not. That is really dangerous, it's getting into Stasi territory.
Should add I'm a huge supporter of the European Union in general and very grateful to be part of it, but on the chat control issue the EU is wrong.
@FediThing @Yuvalne @EUCommission ofc it's so wrong that I'll never comply as a matter of principle.
Worked for #JörgTauss when he debunked #Zensursula...
@Yuvalne @FediThing @stux @ranx because they are the #1 source of sexual exploitation.
Pre-announced and coordinated raids don't count!
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