European CommissionSep 10, 2025

This is our Independence Moment.

From defence to clean tech, we choose independence over dependence.

We invest in security, democracy, and dignity – from housing and jobs to AI and energy.

We defend democracy. We protect media freedom. Because truth and trust are Europe's strongest shields.

Europe must fight for its freedom, unity, and future.

Leading, protecting, and delivering.

These are just some of the key battles Europe is fighting 👉 https://europa.eu/!NNWdhF

Show threadG 🇮🇹Sep 10, 2025
@EUCommission "Europe must fight for its freedom" as if Europe were a person. Hellooo? WE, THE PEOPLE are Europe, I AM Europe. And if you make #ChatControl mandatory you take a piece of my #freedom away
Show threadEuropean CommissionSep 10, 2025

Hello @ranx!
Let us be clear: under this proposal, there is no general monitoring of online communications. There will be no such thing as “chat control”.

Only material that is clearly child sexual abuse will be searched for and can be detected.

Detection orders can only be issued by judicial or independent administrative authorities at the end of a thorough process to assess necessity and proportionality, balancing all the fundamental rights at stake.

Show threadww 🩶Sep 10, 2025
@EUCommission @ranx wdym "can be detected"? there's no ai model with 100% accuracy, and for the subject in question, there doesn't even seem to be one with 50% accuracy.
Show threadNot a Spring OnionSep 10, 2025

@ww @EUCommission @ranx

Only material that is clearly child sexual abuse

Maybe this is meant as known material? In that case, you can e.g. calculate a hash value.

"clearly"? That sounds like magic unicorn technology.

Show threadww 🩶Sep 10, 2025
@wakame @EUCommission @ranx well, the current proposal explicitly includes scanning for unknown material using ai
Show threadww 🩶
@wakame @EUCommission @ranx see https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/posts/chat-control/#currentproposal for details
Chat Control: The EU's CSAM scanner proposal

🇫🇷 French: Traduction du dossier Chat Control 2.0, stopchatcontrol.fr🇸🇪 Swedish: Chat Control 2.0🇩🇰 Danish: chatcontrol.dk🇳🇱 Dutch: Chatcontrole Table of contents: The End of the Privacy of Digital Correspondence and the End of Anonymous Communication Take action to stop Chat

Patrick Breyer
Sep 10, 2025 at 9:37pmWeb
Show threadNot a Spring OnionSep 10, 2025

@ww @ranx
@EUCommission

That's why I asked for clarification.

Maybe they are misinformed. Maybe they are bad with words. Maybe they even have a relaxed relationship with the truth.

Show threadww 🩶Sep 10, 2025
@wakame @ranx @EUCommission i'm curious which one it is, but i think they pick the posts to reply to with a dice roll, so we'll probably never find out
Show threadKevin Karhan Oct 2, 2025

@wakame @ww @ranx either way, I won't obey #cyberfacist laws that violate my Constiutional Rights as a German Citizen to #Privacy, but encrypt harder...

  • @EUCommission would be wise not to cross that big red line, cuz most people may not merely protest against such #fascism.

That's NOT a threat, just me "reading the room" and telling folks like #Zensursula that it's a bad Idea to walk across a frozen lake with a plasma torch pointed at the ice in front of one's feet...

  • I'd rather die than let someone search my comms as a matter of principle (right to remain silent aka. right to not self-incriminate, which cannot be used against the person as an admission of guilt or other penalty!), but others may just decide to fight for their inalienable rights cuz without #HumanRights & #CivilRights the #EU would be as much of a #cleptocracy as the #USA…