The Cost of Taboos, Freedom and Chronological Snobbery

I wasn’t quite sure what I was getting into with The Case Against the Sexual Revolution in this month’s book club but I’d say that it surprised me from the outset with some excellent questions I’ve been mulling over recently.

First, Perry talks about the taboo discussions of liberalism which I also recently encountered in Of Boys and Men. Second she got me thinking more about how unlimited individual freedom as the ideal in society probably doesn’t yield the best outcomes. Third, she introduced me to the idea of chronological snobbery as coined by C.S. Lewis.

So let’s take a look.

Taboo discussions

The first idea I continue to bump up against is the idea that we have many taboo discussions if you want to be a progressive liberal. If you decide to ask if we really need to encourage all trans athletes to compete as their chosen gender or does that specifically harm any athletes that were born female and didn’t get the benefit of male testosterone levels during their development? In many circles asking this question instantly gets you blackballed. So we don’t have a wide ranging discussion about it to see how we can keep equity for women born as biological females and women identifying as their chosen gender later in life.

Of Boys and Men took up this topic in it’s introduction, concluding that it is possible to hold two ideas in your head at once1. We can both be concerned and fight for the equality of women while also recognizing that some of our interventions have had an unintended side effect of severely disadvantaging men. If what we’re going for is equity, that consequence should be addressed at the same time as we continue to fight for equality for women.

Instead of addressing this, Richard Reeves says that we label many problems males exhibit as toxic masculinity and then dismiss them as something men just need to deal with2. This is the same type of thinking that previous generations used to label some issues as ‘women’s issues’, and then discount them entirely.

In fact we still suffer from much of this labelling of issues that more often affect women as merely women’s issues3 thus either not worth investigating, or far too much work to investigate so why bother. Turning the tables on men to label any issues affecting them as simply a result of toxic masculinity isn’t the answer though. This can easily turn men to role models like Andrew Tate and other influencers in the manosphere. Creating the conditions where these figures are the main influence over men, because they’re the only ones talking about issues that have arisen from the societal change towards more inclusion and stronger feminism4 is a fault of many voices on the liberal front who work to cancel someone that doesn’t virtue signal hard enough by agreeing with the leftist of Left positions.

We should instead be willing to ask hard questions about what the benefits of our inclusivity revolution have been, and where it’s missed the mark and excluded portions of the population.

Individual freedom as the ideal

In Chapter 1 Perry argues that one result of liberalism breaking down the constraints of religion, family, and female sexuality5 has also resulted in the ideal that your individual freedom to do whatever you want is the ideal that we should be striving for. It is the ideal…ideal. She then asks, what do we loose when we make an individual’s freedom to do as they wish the ideal to strive for6?

In her mind the removal of constraints on female sexuality attempts to manufacture a world in which the act of sex has as much meaning as drinking a coffee. It’s merely something you do for pleasure, or when you’re bored, or when you need some emotional support. Sex is merely a transaction with no more or less value than most of the rest of the transactions in your life7. In this world we have laws that show the lie of this transactional non-meaning filled view of sexuality.

At work it would be perfectly acceptable for your boss to ask you to get a coffee, or even for a coworker to ask if you’d grab them one while you’re up. It is not deemed acceptable though if they asked you to have a quickie just to relieve a bit of stress before a meeting. The gut reaction to this scenario shows that coffee is merely a transaction, while sex should be taken seriously and is far more meaningful.

Yet the constraint free version of sex often pushed by liberal thinkers wants us to believe that sex is merely a transaction to engage in on a whim with no strings attached.

Chronological Snobbery

While I didn’t have a word for it until reading Chapter 1, I experience chronological snobbery almost daily with my teenager. According to C.S. Lewis chronological snobbery is the uncritical acceptance that the intellectual climate of our own age is superior and right, while the previous generations intellectual climate was deeply flawed and highly incorrect8. I can see this acted out when I give my daughter advice and she looks at me like I’m an idiot because clearly my 45 years of experience with life is eclipsed by her 15 years and I just don’t know what I’m talking about.

In the context of Perry’s writing she’s suggesting that some of the sexual constraints of previous generations may have produced better outcomes than our current view of a sexuality unmoored from any cultural conventions of previous generations. Specifically she argues that the unconstrained sexuality currently favoured serves the desires of men far more than it serves the desires of most women. Yet we can’t talk about that due to the first question of taboo discussions in a liberal world.

Perry cites the [[Hugh Hefner]]’s of the world, who are happy to have sexually liberated women available to serve their sexual needs. Who no longer have to give any thought to consequences, specifically the consequence of pregnancy adding unwanted responsibility to a sexually active man.

But if the premise of her chapter is true, that sex should be taken more seriously and is more meaningful than a transaction is true, then for most women sex has far more meaning and maybe should have some types of sexual taboo surrounding it. Maybe previous generations had some good ideas about what types of sex should not be had because if you’re not having that much or that type of sex, you’re going to have a better outcome long term.

It’s too long let me sum it up

I know, for many, we’re discussing very tough topics, and I don’t pretend to have all the answers. I’m a middle aged white dude, which makes me possibly the worst person to talk about this because of the shitty history men have, yet it’s a discussion that needs to be had.

  • Of Boys and Men Pg X ↩︎
  • Of Boys and Men Pg XII ↩︎
  • See Invisible Women for more on this ↩︎
  • Both of which I think are good things ↩︎
  • The Case Against the Sexual Revolution Pg 10 ↩︎
  • The Case Against the Sexual Revolution Pg 10 ↩︎
  • The Case Against the Sexual Revolution Pg 13 ↩︎
  • The Case Against the Sexual Revolution Pg 17 ↩︎
  • #liberalism #manosphere #sexualRevolution

    The Case Against the Sexual Revolution – Louise Perry – Curtis McHale

    The Cost of Taboos, Freedom and Chronological Snobbery
    I wasn't quite sure what I was getting into with The Case Against the Sexual Revolution in this month's book club but I'd say that it surprised me from the outset with some excellent questions I've been mulling over recently.

    First, Perry talks about the taboo discussions of liberalism which
    https://curtismchale.ca/2025/10/05/the-cost-of-taboos-freedom-and-chronological-snobbery/
    #BookClub #liberalism #manosphere #SexualRevolution

    The Cost of Taboos, Freedom and Chronological Snobbery – Curtis McHale

    Before Playboy became a global brand and lightning rod in debates about sex, media, and morality, Hugh Hefner was just a college student with a flair for satire and an eye for disruption. Let’s revisit Nathan Tye’s 2017 article, the College Roots of Hugh Hefner and Playboy.

    Link to full article: https://wp.me/p6JJ6S-3cf

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    The Silent Sexual Revolution

    As technology quietly reshapes the landscape of human intimacy, we seem reluctant to confront its impact on the future of humanity.

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    On 10 June 1907, the first edition of Tianyi (天義 – Natural Justice), a #Chinese #anarchist #feminist #magazine , was published in exile in #Tokyo. It had been founded by He-Yin Zhen (何震 – He "thunderclap"), a leading member of the #WomensRights Recovery Association (女子妇权会).

    The Association advocated forceful #resistance against #oppression by men, as well as that by #capitalists and the ruling class. It also forbade its own members from being subservient to men or becoming a concubine or second wife, while offering to come to the assistance of any member who was being abused by their husband, or under some other form of male dominance. He-Yin urged:

    "You women, do not hate the man: hate that you don't have food to eat. Why don't you have food to eat? Because you can't buy food without money. Why don't you have money? Because the rich have stolen our property and walk all over the majority of the people."

    Tianyi argued for a #SexualRevolution and the abolition of the family, which it believed gave rise to selfishness, #patriarchy and private property.

    He-Yin also argued that #women forming part of a government would be inadequate for the #liberation of women, believing that while a few women might be able to join the ruling class, they would only join men in oppressing everyone else. And so liberation would only come with the overthrowing of both patriarchy and the state:

    "What we mean by equality between the sexes is not just that men will no longer oppress women. We also want men no longer to be oppressed by other men and women no longer to be oppressed by other women."

    In total, 19 issues of the journal published over the next couple of years.

    https://stories.workingclasshistory.com/article/8210/Tianyi-first-published

    #AsianMastodon #AsianHistory #ChineseFeminists #ChineseHistory #Journalism

    Working Class History

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