It appears, UK Prime Minister Starmer still has not understood, the US is out of the alliance. Starmer:
"The UK will work to ensure we keep the US and Europe together. We cannot allow any divisions in the alliance to distract from the external enemies we face."
In my view, the solution is not to fantasize that Trump could be Biden. The solution is to realize that the US that was is gone, and Europe must now carry the torch of freedom on its own.
@randahl Americans have made it crystal clear who their friends and allies are. Plot twist: the EU and Canada are surely not on the list.
Instead of trying to fix what Americans have broken, we should focus on how to make Europe truly independent and resilient to all external threats, including the ones coming from ex-allies.
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Actually Tony Blair was not, and is not a Born Again Christian. When Prime Minister of the UK he was a high church Anglican until he converted to Roman Catholicism in 2005.
I agree with your other points.
The US likes to send the bill for supporting allies militarily. I suggest we do the same and send the US the bill for the costs of supporting them in their hysterical military campaigns that ended in failure.
NATO wasn't incepted to fight in the Middle East and Asia, but to defend Europe against russian imperialist invasions. Clearly, the US is too cowardly to fulfil the NATO mission and can only go to war with small fish and lose.
We want our money back.
The obsession with 'growth' at any cost. Having set it itself against any return to Europe, #NewerLabour is now desperately scrabbling for trade deals. Starmer has to grovel before Trump.
I agree. Europe would be well served by just assuming that America is no longer part of their Alliance.
Tin-ear Starmer strikes again!
@randahl In Europe, we still have to get used to the feeling of being a colony. Our imperial past is still comparatively recent.
Russia has been trying to colonize Europe for centuries. The Americans and the Russians obviously intend to redivide vassals in Europe.
We don't want to put up with that? We want to go to the negotiating table? That will be expensive: European troops on Ukrainian soil. Now. 😳
@randahl In Germany, the AFD would like to turn us into a Russian colony and the CxU would like to remain American.
And all in all, the Europeans (not only EU) would have to solve an incredible number of problems in just a few months. In comparison, the energy crisis after the Russian invasion was child's play.
All in all, we have proven that: We can, if we have to and want to. Do we want to?
@randahl https://www.theguardian.com/books/article/2024/jul/17/autocracy-inc-by-anne-applebaum-review-the-devil-you-know
This is the world we now live in.Trump isn't on the side of democracy. As James Dorsey wrote: Might is right on Steroids
Here's the link to James Dorsey, not that one,the other one, article:
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He doesn't have an informed, awake electorate. Behind the scenes, I am sure there is panic and some serious determination. For now, he is putting out a surreal 'business as usual' fluff.
There are many mechanisms for alerting the population. Ironically, the UK populists are sentinentally bound to Second World War nostalgia. Liberals have recoiled from appeals to patriotism but a new campaign based on the folk memory of fighting Nazis has a rich seam of nostalgia to mine. Farage is Russia's stooge. He will find the spirit of wartime resistance very hard to counter.
Starmer needs to begin by using soft power to unpick complacency and go onto the offensive. Timing is of some importance in the public declaration but preparations need to begin yesterday. This is not just a question of military preparedness.
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I do not think that #keirstarmer has that fantasy. I do suspect that he is only too aware that the #uk will have to choose - and which choice it should make. He has to face the fact that at least two of the opposition parties - the #conservatives , #reformUK and the #democraticunionistparty - are unlikely to support him. Nor will their allies in the media. Worse still he may be facing something of a 'fifth column' within #labour - of which #mauriceglasman and #bluelabour are part.
@randahl "We cannot allow any divisions in the alliance to distract from the external enemies we face."
Is Starmer purposefully choosing to be this obtuse? The US has clearly made their choice, as did the UK a few years ago. A bit late to be worrying about the threat of Russia now.
@randahl Yup. Treat us as a rogue state or even just straight up an enemy for the foreseeable future.
This isn't fixable. We have to raze and rebuild and nobody should rely on us until it happens.
I propose that it is no longer the UNITED States, and that it be referred to as the Divided States.
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