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Martin StendelI have to repeat myself. Why isn't this on the headline of all newspapers?
morri@MartinStendel ich glaubwenn das so weitergeht wir muessen uns auf tropische wirbelstuerme vorbereiten💀
SimoneMy two cents is:
People feel helpless and hamstrung. They start (start!!!😖 ) to suspect, something is wrong, but they feel, it would cost them a lot of effort (and money) to confront themselves with it and take appropriate actions.
They feel they rather deserve holiday in a country far, far away, where they have to fly to, and they are pretty busy with far more important stuff. (🤬 )
It's their right to have a comfortable life!
So what was it with this strange red curve again?
Timo@MartinStendel would like to use this, is there a source?
@timoka please look a little further up, where this has been discussed in detail...
jakob 🇦🇹 ✅Wie schaut das bei euch aus @derStandard ?
Bill the Lizard@MartinStendel The orcas are right.
Ives@MartinStendel Just curious: does it look as alarmingly if the reference data would include 2012 to 2022 instead of stopping at 2011?
jon_wnc@ives @MartinStendel this article (https://yorkshirebylines.co.uk/news/environment/north-atlantic-ocean-records-its-highest-ever-sea-surface-temperature/) appears to have the same graph with the title changed to include 2012-2022, but the data looks the same (at a glance). does anyone have a primary source for this chart?
@jon_wnc @MartinStendel That looks fishy. AFAICT it uses the same reference lines (prev max is still 0.8C). But the 2023 line starts at 0.55C in the article instead of 0.7C. And the years have been bumped.
曳尾于涂The page says chart from
https://climatereanalyzer.org/
But I didn’t found the same chart.
I found different ones
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/t2_daily/
Maybe they changed the unit of y-axis
@Acer @jon_wnc @MartinStendel Thx for that link! I found this graph on the site. It has an absolute y-scale instead of the relative one in the graph at the start of this thread. Looks less spectacular at first sight, but it's also quite bad if you look at it more closely.
anlomedad@jon_wnc @ives @MartinStendel
This has the source and offers export of the chart's data, too https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/
Several news outlets had articles on this issue a few weeks back when the global SST had just exceeded the "block" of lines. In April or so it was. Maybe, newsrooms don't allow a repetition of the same story, as the predominently climate-ignorant journalists everywhere probably see it.
Kevin Karhan 
@MartinStendel because #Mainstream #MassMedia in #Capitalism is beholden to #Advertisers and thus cannot seriously question the System or even oppose it.
@MartinStendel same.with #ViolenceCulture and the #Enshittification of #NSAbook & 
...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3VQULyT390
...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3VQULyT390
How the American Media Fuels A Cycle of Violence
YY Ahn@MartinStendel apparently because scientists suck at effective science communication 🙄 (according to The Hill article)
Alex Chaffeewhere is that pretty blue-lined graph coming from? I found this one
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/ but that shows the base data (which is useful too), not flattened relative to the day-of-year mean (which makes it easier to see the magnitude of the anomaly)
ah looks like it might have come from the legendary Peter Gleick 👍
https://fediscience.org/@petergleick/110583149984527655
Peter Gleick (@[email protected])
Attached: 4 images · Content warning: Angry rant from climate science communicator.
Sabine covers the anomaly here at 14m10s or so https://youtu.be/65it0Slapwk — one idea for why this is happening now is that recently, sulfur emissions from big ships were outlawed, and sulfur reflects sunlight
Record Temperatures in the North Atlantic
Ryek Darkener@MartinStendel
Because most readers would think this is a graffiti?
Because most readers would think this is a graffiti?
Jacob Something@MartinStendel Thats absolutely scary. If I wanted to put this on a poster for the next climate march, where could I get the data?
Niels🛰️@MartinStendel page 8 of the Saturday newspaper of @nrc_nl . So I guess some are making this an headline?
https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2023/06/17/de-atlantische-oceaan-is-te-warm-a4167437
Milonguero cyclista@MartinStendel I'm afraid people can't handle the fact that it is actually happening.
☃️karolherbst☃️@MartinStendel Because rich folks won't die from this...
Brian BrayRich folks won’t die from this…. so far.
@brianbr @MartinStendel no no, they just invent the magic "defeat global warming" machine with their "smart" investment and make a fortune saving the earth.
Harrock@MartinStendel why only till 2011 ? Why not till 2022 ?
ulistopperBecause it wouldn't change anything except of shifting the whole plot slightly downwards by a constant value. (The average temperature curve until 2011 is basically a sine wave. The average temperature curve until 2022 is basically a sine wave, too, but just with a slight offset to higher temps.)
Daniel Hoffmann 🌼
Jason Petersen (he)@MartinStendel because journalists are enemies of the people (unironically, but from the left)
Philip Mallegol-Hansen@MartinStendel @jwildeboer The clicks for climate played out 10 years ago, there’s no point in covering it anymore.
/s but only slightly.
Paul@MartinStendel it was in the news already
J.H.Noyes@MartinStendel
Zients has a balloon over Central America just in case the papers step out of line.
@artisanrox
Zients has a balloon over Central America just in case the papers step out of line.
@artisanrox
Here is a plot that puts the anomaly into perspective with the seasonal variations:
https://climatereanalyzer.org/clim/sst_daily/
Still scary.
John 0tter@MartinStendel Quiet, Timmy, Lassie says there's a billionaire at the bottom of the sea!
Defense budget! SAR resources! Roll out!
EarthlingBecause headlines about impending extinction do not sell!
Lil Crow 🇨🇦 🐦⬛🐰@MartinStendel ots no anomaly, it’s us, killing the seas and oceans. Some ppl are too stupid to accept that fact.
@MartinStendel if I could just put on my tin foil hat real quick - I'm pretty sure that at this point the rich people who rule over us understand that climate change is very real and coming to kill us, and recognize that if the rest of us catch on we might demand action. As a result, our media instead obsesses over stupid trivialities like donkey brains with too much money going on stupid submarine rides.
❓ucblockhead@MartinStendel Maybe if we start the rumor that it may have caused that billionaire's sub to implode?
Kris Samsel@MartinStendel Triggering thermal dynamic expansion! Don’t by beachfront property? Too warm!
Hobson Lane@MartinStendel
What are the units and numbers on the vertical axis?
What are the units and numbers on the vertical axis?
Annietime@MartinStendel@fediscience.
CNN June 20, 2023
“Richard Unsworth, an associate professor of biosciences at Swansea University in the UK and a founding director of Project-Seagrass, called the Atlantic heat wave “totally unprecedented.”…
“While we can’t in detail predict the intensity, duration and location of severe heating events such as the current marine heatwave, we know they’re increasingly likely to be more prevalent as our climate system collapses further,” Unsworth said.”
“As our climate system collapses further “ is one terrifying comment.
And still the fossil fuels pour into the atmosphere.
It’s time our free wheeling billionaires pay a (substantial) carbon tax for their destructive lifestyles.
#ClimateEmergency #OceanTemperatures #OceanHeatWave
#ElNino
#massextinction
Kevin@MartinStendel Honest answer from someone who's not closely following this stuff - it's overwhelming and in order to cope I've had to force it to be background noise. I think I'm not alone and people would just skip reading it. I'm not terribly interested in the billionaire submersible either but they run that story because it's a STORY, it has a beginning and an end and a cast of characters. This is just... a screeching alarm that people have tuned out. Hell, people tune out literal alarms in Ukraine.
maxelcat@MartinStendel I found this https://blog.metoffice.gov.uk/2023/06/16/sea-surface-temperatures-breaking-records/ which includes this quote from the wonderfully named 'Professor Albert Klein Tank'. As I read this it seems to suggest 'stand down'
N. 🍉
Bene@MartinStendel Dude, we have decades of training in ignoring charts and graphs about climate change!
Konosocio@MartinStendel I'm sure you'll find it on page 23 or so, with some quotes from scientists clearly freaking out ("unprecedented, we enter unknown territory") but the journalist will be applauded for not making an alarmist piece out of it.
sonja dolinsek@MartinStendel where can we find this graph?
Alexander Wilms [moved]@MartinStendel Temperatur im Nordatlantik - in 2023 extrem #KlimaKrise #KlimaKatastrophe #fridaysforfuture #LetzteGeneration Martin Stendel fragt: „Warum ist das nicht die #Schlagzeile in den #Medien?“
cowvin@MartinStendel People have some absurd fascination with some stupid rich people who got themselves killed trying to sight see at the Titanic.
Rational Brit #FBPEDude we’re going to be knee deep in seawater before it maybe makes page eleven. Or if it does make the front page, it will be because they’re say that it’s Climate Change activists wot dun it
Sam McClatchie@MartinStendel It is on the Guardians environment section pages. https://www.theguardian.com/environment/video/2023/jun/22/what-you-need-to-know-about-the-extreme-heatwave-hitting-our-oceans-video-explainer
Evelyn@MartinStendel @MattMastodon I can’t hear you: my head’s too far down in the sand.
Peter Relph@MartinStendel
No, it's ok, the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current is vastly overrated.
Europe is fully prepared for an Ice Age, it's not been too long since the last one, they still have the plans & procedures they had in place from the last one.
Don't panic, it is all in good Neoliberal hands.
No, it's ok, the Atlantic Meridional Overturning Current is vastly overrated.
Europe is fully prepared for an Ice Age, it's not been too long since the last one, they still have the plans & procedures they had in place from the last one.
Don't panic, it is all in good Neoliberal hands.
Arden (she/her)@MartinStendel this is still the most terrifying graph I’ve ever seen. And I’m a maths teacher.
oleiade@MartinStendel I don’t know in the rest of the world, but in Europe I would think it might be because journalists tend to have a rather limited scientific culture and background.
B Caligari 🇪🇺@MartinStendel The only climate related news that makes headline is when some good people block a road. I despair.
Incident Creator ❎@MartinStendel Five people dying is a tragedy, billions dying is a statistic and not good for sales.
Thaiis Thei 𓁟@MartinStendel Because people in power are terrified of what will happen once people realise the extent of the problem.