Obviously the #zeebo flopped, espechally due to #Qualcomm's #BREW #OS ¹ which is basically '#JavaMobile but worse in order to circumvent #SoftwarePatents' whilst also having dogshit performance and being hard to develop for or even port games to, making it even worse than #Gizmondo or #NGage which used #J2ME.

But even in a starved market like #Brazil most households weren't gonna dump over 1 month minimum wage on an aging #3G-#Cellphone with composite video and 6-button #USB #controllers.

So yeah, blame Qualcomm for this shitshow...

And lets be honest, #Edutainment is not a cash cow because in places like #Mexico it's way easier to get even cheaper #PC|s due to #NAFTA #FreeTrade (i.e. all the stuff #refurbishers couldn't sell in the #USA anymore got offered there before being sold further south...

Needless to say the Zeebo is the strongest argument for #StopKillingGames as these devices are nearly useless these days and piracy is the only way to get / change games on it and play them these days.

Nowadays the nieche of the zeebo is served by cheap #PCs for #gaming even cheaper #Android devices and (aside from few stores like #Steam that managed to upstell a #DRM as a #feature), rampant #piracy to the point that #MobileGaming outside of #iOS is basically dead unless we account #PayToLoose #Shovelware of the "#DisguisedGambingGame" kind as "#Gaming" which is an insult even for #gambling, because there at least in theory, with a honest operator the chance of winning is greater than zero (tho I'd still disrecommend it because no gambling game is *"fair" beyond the theoretical chance of winning by the rules)...

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Zeebo: Brazil's Bizarre Delisted Console | Past Mortem | SSFF

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@betelgeuse93 @itsfoss Okay, I've to admit this is very #EU-centric but there are lots of #refurbished #amd64-based, #fanless #ThinClients on the market.

One can easily find a hp t520 or t620 with dualcore AMD GX-Series APUs, 4GB RAM and 16GB SSD for as little as €25 with power supply (excl. shipping)...

OFC as we all know from #LowSpecGamer the #UsedMarket in #DevelopingNations is completely fucked up which is why stuff like a GT210, 750 and 1030 will still sell there.

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@geerlingguy @dragonarchitect yeah.

I got like half a dozen #refurbishers on my bookmarks and given the rampant #Enshittification with #AIslop I should do something like a #donations-financed site that actually links to stuff…

  • Kinda like #AOL did it…

@emilyyoung Yeah, even in #Germany (and the rest of the #EU) where #Microsoft still has to provide free extended Support for #Windows10 the #refurbishers are being flooded with a shitton of decent gear to the point that they have huge sales just to not drown in stock.

Shure noone here is gonna be impressed by an AMD GX-415 or some Intel #SkyLake / #KabyLake-System but it'll still run @ubuntu / #UbuntuLTS (Server), @bunsenlabs / #BunsenLabsLinux or even #RaspberryPiOS just fine.

I'm still daily-driving an #X230Tablet and that's fine and even good enough for lightweight #Gaming.

  • And in the end it's not bad hardware, but pricing: Being able to get something useable for < €100 or even < €50 completely can make the difference between a child having a PC to be able to get homework done or not.

I mean, I see @computertruhe and @PCsfueralle constantly make that work and there should be more such initiatives...

@socketwench darn…

Cuz I see a shitload of freshly surplus'd machines that won't work with #CensorBoot (#Windows11) for not much money at my favorite #refurbishers...

Like some sub-€200 machines with decent specs.

@rl_dane @tripplehelix I mean, shure...

I just tend to browse some #refurbishers as they often tend to have better prices and actually test their stuff...

Best people can get are #NewOldStock #GTX1030 or worse like #GT710 or got forbid #GT210|s which noone should buy unless they are stuck in some hellhole like #Brazil where #customs make thibgs so expensive that people are glad if they can buy their used work computers (minus HDD/SDD) from their employers for an absurdly high price cuz #refurbishers and #UserMarket either din't exist or just full of shit re: prices!

@GossiTheDog @BrodieOnLinux OFC NOBODY wants blatant #Spyware and #Govware as their #OS!

@katnjiapus it's because of what I call "#RedBlueIndex" (named after the holding company owning the two biggest electronics tetailers in #Germany, #Saturn & #MediaMarkt):

  • Only what people see ib stores exists to them!

Thus they see #Apple devices that are more expensive than ever before and are less compatible than anything since the switch from #PowerPC to #ix86 and all the garbage prebuilds with #WinShit on them because retailers get paid to not offer #Linux and the big OEMs get paid $25 for every #preinstall if #Windows10 & #Windows11...

Same with #refurbishers that pay less than €10 per key in return for not shipping Linux...

That's why you don't see Linux machines in stores.

And I want @kartellamt@social.bund.de / @Bundesregierung & @EU_Commission to actually investigate that sooner than later...

@DJDarren OFC - just like #iCloudLock has nothing to do with #theft of #Apple devices but solely with #AssetDenial against #Refurbishers...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzS2vwDUO9U
If Apple Really Cared About The Environment They Would Stop Doing This

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