@dave_andersen @AVincentInSpace personally I consider any "#KYC" a risk-factor, and @signalapp has proven their ability and willingness to restrict functionality (i.e. their #Shitcoin-#Scam #MobileCoin) based off said #PhoneNumbers (Cuban, Russian and North Korean Numbers were excluded) which are in fact #PII (even if one doesn't have to #ID for obtaining a #SIM, they are circumstantial PII)...

• They have neither "legitimate interest" nor legal mandate to collect said data (or to integrate a scammy Shitcoin for that matter) as the discontinuation of #ChatSecure / #TextSecure has eliminated the "technical necessity" to have those.

Either way they either have to yeet #Hegseth as client and/or stop collecting PII like PhoneNumbers - they gotta have to do something…

• As for #InfoSec, #OpSec & #ComSec, I'd say #XMPP+#OMEMO remains the gold standard alongside #PGP/MIME...

#ITsec is a different story, but unlike #Signal these do not depend on a #PhoneNumber and work through @torproject / #Tor.

• And I've been using Tor for almost 15 years daily now...

@lispi314 @Avitus @lauren exactly that.

Espechally given that @signalapp discontinued #TextSecure, which was #SMS-based where one could've claimed a "technical necessity" existed.

• Nowadays it's rather empowering bad actors and introducing weaknesses given #GSM and #Telephony is inherently and unfixaboy insecure by design and that noone should rely on it being reliable or accurate to begin with as technology to selectively reroute calls and SMS are as old.as the underlying teoephony network!

@lispi314 @lauren Not.only.that, but with a #PhoneNumber it makes it trivial to get details from @signalapp targeting a known individual.

• And with the prevalence of #Govware and the fact that there is literally no #LegitimateInterest since #Signal abandoned #TextSecure, it's yet another design flaw that is beibg intentionally kept instead of fixing it at all!

@david_chisnall @Avitus @lucasmz @signalapp espechally with a #Shitcoin that is neither private (unlike #Monero) nor has any markets & trading volue (unlike Monero) and doesn't provide any added features compared existing #Cryptocurrencies and "#TradFinance"...

• And even then: Your reasoning is 100% valid, as it's just adding #bloat compared to functionality (unlike #TextSecure which did make sense as it encrypted #SMS!)...

@Sustainable2050 I ditched Whatsapp many years ago. Maybe even before it was bought by Meta. I was peer pressured to install it (at the times that it was totally unencrypted). I never liked using Whatsapp.

When the #opensource #SignalApp (#TextSecure at the time) became available I moved to Signal. Nearly all my contacts installed it as well.

What I not do like about Signal is its centralized approach. Slowly using more #matrix nowadays.

https://community.signalusers.org/t/finally-100-users-on-signal-app-android/7998/14?u=janvlug

#FOSS

@halva @lynn @deilann

Wrong, as you need a #PhoneNumber just to sign up to @signalapp / #Signal and Signal does use that to discriminate against users and restrict functionality.

And since an increasing number of juristictions don't allow anonymous #PhoneNumbers / mandate #KYC even for #Prepaid numbers, that Phone Number is not only explicit #PII but also Signal never had any "legitimate interest" to demand one, nor is it "technically necessary" in any shape or form (unlike if they still offered #TextSecure to encrypt #SMS and used said phone numbers to update, authenticate and exchange Public Keys)...

@GrapheneOS @signalapp I didn't say all of them have it...

Re: #Signal I'd not consider it #disinfo as we've seen more elaborate Setups like #EncroChat & #ANØM fall.

• Given the fact that one cannot #SelfHost #Signal's backend, they shilled the #MobileCoin #scam and use #PII like #PhoneNumbers to enforce 'selective availability' as well being incorporated in the #USA all rubs be unpleasantly...

• "The" correct way to do things (sarcasm OFC!) is to do #OfflinePGP but we can all agree it's not practical...

I remember when #Signal did a good #E2EE Messenger (#TextSecure) and that had a reason to use #PhoneNumbers as it merely encrypted #SMS, but that OFC has other issues.

• In terms if "proper #E2EE" with #SelfCustody if #keys, @delta / #deltaChat does fit even the stingest criteria - including #encrypted #GroupChats!