@micahflee I just think that this will fall flat on it's face when #Signal gets their doors "bootfucked" by #AmericanGestapo!

  • I hope to be wrong, but they collected all those #PhoneNumbers that are basically a personalized target marker for &"law enforcement"* to attack one after the other…

Obviously, this is not #disinformation given the #facts and circumstantial evidence.

  • TELL ME WHERE I'M WRONG!

I do expect the reinstatement of my original post!

@DarkWebInformer why would anyone use #Telegram instead of #IRC over #Tor?

@x_cli Funnily all the @signalapp fans always claim they do protect metadata but that will matter diddly-piss when the #US - Government threatens #Signal Staff with jailtime or holds them at gunpoint.

Besides, if they actually cared they'd not collect any data in the first place and instead make shure they can't even collect data like #IPs and #PhoneNumbers by hosting their stuff on @torproject / #Tor and not asking for #PII like a phone # to begin with.

  • Not to mention remaining in the #USA post - #CloudAct is a big red flag, cuz even if Signal ain't complicit, all their hosters and their upstreams are and I'm convinced that every single connection gets tracked by the #NSA in realtime and every #Google and #Apple account downloading the #App earmarked as well...

Claiming to "Just download and signup to our App" is a magic silver bullet is dishonest at best and worse than lying by omnission in my book.

thaddeus e. grugq (@thegrugq) on X

I’m gonna tell you a secret about “logless VPNs” — they don’t exist. Noone is going to risk jail for your $5/mo https://t.co/Q2aOQJkG4g

X (formerly Twitter)

@Mer__edith except @signalapp does collect #PII (#Phonenumbers) and demand it alongside camera access to even use it.

  • Compare that to @monocles / #monoclesChat and @delta / #deltaChat, which don't demand any personal data nor permissions (beyond internet access and being able to store the login details, obviously!), this is absolutely unreasonable.

Plus unlike #Signal, both offer #realE2EE with #SelfCustody of all the Keys, support @torproject / #Tor for #privacy and don't rely on "Trust me, guys!" advertising and a long-term unsustainable model of donations from billionaires and millionaires to keep running!

Kevin Karhan :verified: (@kkarhan@infosec.space)

My [reservations](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036) and [criticism](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114862595629371002) re: #Signal are not just valid, but the reality is *even worse than I thought*: - The fact that @signalapp@mastodon.world requires not only their shitty #Android #App, and a #PhoneNumber but literally won't allow people to use their shitty #Desktop-App unless they have an Android device with a camera pointed at it makes it utterly unuseable for certain users *who don't have a fucking #camera in their Android*… Seriously, do they expect folks to deal with that shit? - It's already worse in terms of #UX than #telegram and #discord and that too makes #XMPP+#OMEMO clients like @monocles@monocles.social / #monoclesChat & @gajim@fosstodon.org / #gajim easier and faster to onboard #TechIlliterates onto. - Whichever asshole decided that a *replacement for #SMS* should mandate #PII like a #PhoneNumber & not be natively cross-platform should be banned from doing any #tech in their life. Trying to circumvent this shit and helping folks with it makes me so fucking angry that I'm now explicitly refusing to support it! FIX THAT SHIT, @Mer__edith@mastodon.world, and if it means you need to kick some devs in their crouch then consider this a necessary *"investment"*… #sarcasm #TechSupport #TapesFromTechSupport #Enshittifucation #SignalSucks #TelegramSucks #Messengers

Infosec.Space

@mechanix @jlou @delta @randy_ @gaufff and that's why the only correct apporach to this #cyberfascist agenda is to refuse to comply.

If @signalapp & @Mer__edith weren't a #Honeypot, they'd refuse to collect #PII (#PhoneNumbers!) and just #EncryptHarder aka. move their infrastructure into #Tor / @torproject...

@mechanix @jlou @delta @randy_ @gaufff @torproject Unlikely. Like with any legislation the #EU pushed, it went after the operators and "#ChatControl" aims to kill #GAFAM-competitiors and alternatives.

Let's say I don't trust #MarketingLies and unless I can self-host it entirely myself, ranging from verified builds off sourcecode to hosting the Servers myself on #Tor, it's not possible to verify certain claims espechally re: infrastructure and "logging"

@mechanix @delta @randy_ @gaufff precisely!

Personally, I feel confirmed to not use #Centralized & #proprietary #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider options like @signalapp / #Signal which by virtue of collecting #PII in the form of #PhoneNumbers are at best #UsefulIdiots if nit a blatant #HoneyPot...

Anything else doesn't work!

  • The only way you can guarantee your #HumanRights is by actively enforcing and using them in the most aggressibe way possible that doesn't infringe upon others' rights...
Exclusive: Neon takes down app after exposing users' phone numbers, call recordings, and transcripts

Call recording app Neon was one of the top-ranked iPhone apps, but was pulled offline after a security bug allowed any logged-in user to access the call recordings and transcripts of any other user.

TechCrunch

@ewolff well, if @Mer__edith and @signalapp card they'd not.just rally their users against "#ChatControl" aka. #cyberfascism but design their systems with #Anonymity and #Privacy in mind.

But since they added #MobileCoin as a #Shitcoin and also selectively restricted availability to it we all know this ain't their goal!