On your phone, do you use:
Light mode
16.4%
Dark mode
30.4%
Switch by time of day
49.7%
Switch willy-nilly
3.4%
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@gruber I really need the contrast of light mode to easily read my screen
@gruber I am not a good person to answer this question because my Home Screen looks like this:
@Wavebeam Is that a widget?
@Aaron yeah, 2 widgets handled by the app at the bottom called "Dumb Phone"
@Wavebeam Thank you! And here I was thinking my phone was minimal already.
@Aaron very nice! I have been meaning to write up an article about "how" and also "why" I've done this. but basically I have been annoyed at the stupid muscle-memory habit to mindlessly pull out my phone, so I stripped it of as much extraneous use as possible.

@Wavebeam @Aaron I have a friend who's a big supporter of and believer in The Light Phone. The interface looks pretty much like what you've got going on there, but also the phone is tiny and squared-off and super cute

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@liquor_american @Aaron The Light Phone III is actually what made me do this to my phone. the issue with these devices is that I still want decent navigation, a good camera, the ability to order an uber, scan QR codes, etc. I settled on this as means for enjoying the actual utility of a fully featured phone, while minimizing the ability for it to suck me in for needless attention sucking.
@gruber Switch using Focuses and Siri automations. That’s more “willy-nilly” than any other option, but not exactly willy-nilly. More like harum-scarum.
@gruber i would like to use automatic switch, but sunset-sunrise is completely useless. there is light for light mode two hours after sunset. if the phone can do something like “five minute average of ambient brightness,” that would be cool
@cerny_kocky @gruber You can tailor the timing with automations in Shortcuts. I have mine set to switch to Dark Mode an hour after sunset and to switch to Light Mode after I stop my morning alarm.
@Sumocat @gruber i paid thousands to a several-trillion company. they better get moving. i am not doing shit for amount i paid
@gruber Generally I let iOS switch to dark mode at sunset, but there’s always that period—between when the sun dips behind the Rockies and when it’s officially sunset—where the phone is annoyingly still on day colors and brightness.

@gruber I guess willy-nilly is the nearest option…but I use light mode for work use and dark mode for personal use.

My phone switches based on a “Work” Focus mode, my work Mac is always on light mode, my personal Mac/iPad are always on dark mode.

@gruber I use light mode for the main OS (and voted as such)—but often prefer using a dark theme for apps that offer it (for example in Ivory, Fantastical, Overcast, Carrot Weather, Marvis, etc)
@gruber I know light mode is supposed to be better for your eyes during the day, but I find dark mode so much easier to read
@gruber I’m “Switch by time of day but also willy-nilly when time of day doesn’t cut it”
@simonbs same! Something with the nordic summer light.
@simonbs @gruber Apps should bring back changing theme based on ambient brightness like the old days.
@gruber I’ve always used dark mode oh my phone since iOS 13(?) but have been wanting to switch it to time of day
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@gruber today is a bit more than just dark/light mode. I use light mode but my Home Screen is dark icons and dark mode for wallpaper. So a mix.
@gruber I’ve seen credible research indicating that dark mode actually reduces reading comprehension, though I wonder if that’s still true with the increasing prevalence of dark mode. Still, I personally find I can see things much better in light mode.
@gruber I voted for "Switch by time of day" plus some apps (like Ivory) are always set to dark mode (if they offer such a setting)
@gruber It's very convenient when automatic mode is on. My eyes don't hurt.
@gruber where’s Sunset to Sunrise?
@aardvark That's “switch by time of day" obviously.
@gruber them’s fightin’ words!
@gruber Since I have a phone with OLED display, it's dark mode all the time.
@gruber Phone by time of day but Mac is always on Dark Mode. I kind of find light mode on Macs kinda disgusting now. 🥴
@gruber Sunrise-to-sunset is all that makes sense to me.
@gruber Dark Mode only I have tried Light Mode and always feel like my eyes are being bombarded by too much white. Tried reduce white point and didn't help much.
@gruber I chose light mode, but technically switch to dark when it’s bedtime to discourage me from using my phone
@gruber I have written an automation on Shortcuts where the mode changes depending on screen brightness. The phone checks it every time I open/close an app, and changes the mode accordingly.
@gruber Dark Mode, but with Light Mode app icons on the Home screens.
@gruber I switch by time of day but what I really need is to switch by ambient light levels.
@gruber I do like a night mode, but with bigger font size 👓
@gruber I joined the dark side a long time ago and never looked back.
@gruber switching by time of day seems kind of bonkers to me. Never would have guessed that would lead.
@gruber Have to admit, this result really surprises me!
@gruber Jumping in late after listening to the show today, I’m a dark mode guy, however *except* for Apple Maps. I don’t find dark maps easy to discern. It drove me crazy that there was and there still is not an in-app option to force Maps to be in light mode. Many apps you can choose but not maps - which is nuts. So, I have two shortcut automations set. One when I open Maps or FindMy my phone switches to light mode. When I leave the same apps, it switches back! @louie @daringfireball
@phirst @louie I agree that Maps looks not just weird, but wrong, to me in dark mode.
@gruber @phirst @louie I wondered if I was crazy, but I must have set it years ago — on Mac, there is a setting in Maps to “always use light map appearance” regardless of the system's setting. I think there's no such thing on iOS. But a shortcut is a clever solution.

@gruber I've always found it really interesting how varied Light/Dark is between my apps. Widgetsmith is used 2/3 Dark, whereas Pedometer++ is the exact opposite with 2/3 Light.

All I can observe is the current value so it is _possible_ that automatic switching is enabled and the apps just have different time of day use patterns, but the difference is large enough that I suspect it is demographic. Widgetsmith skews younger and Pedometer++ skews older, which I suspect is the real root.

@_Davidsmith @gruber I need to walk more to get the fancy version of Pedometer++. Or I should do it anyway to feed _
@_Davidsmith @gruber Younger people — a demographic I (still) consider myself a part of — predominantly use dark mode all the time, so this checks out. I believe the desire for dark mode among the youth has its roots in gaming, and that’s why.
@_Davidsmith Fascinating. Thank you for sharing this! @gruber
@_Davidsmith @gruber anecdotal but as a Gen Z’er I’ve noticed dark mode is more prevalent as well. I hardly know anyone that uses automatic mode. Light mode is a meme (really).
@_Davidsmith Perhaps you could correlate to time of day? But age demographics are my bet for your apps’ split too.

@gruber @_Davidsmith I'm old and use dark mode everywhere (25 years of light mode blinded me enough) but I still use light mode in Pedometer++. To be frank, the color palette of its dark mode just isn't appealing. (Sorry, David!)

I just think there isn't enough contrast. Dark mode with text is white on black; muted green on dark grey just sort of looks dirty. 🤷

@_Davidsmith Possible. I have been a pedometer user since the iPhone 5s days.
@_Davidsmith @gruber Are your analytics based on in-app use, or also track widget use? And do you allow people to override the system appearance? Obviously, both those apps are way more used in widgets than the average app.

@_Davidsmith @gruber I must be a “young” old Baby Boomer from ‘52. I’m in dark mode except when links in emails are unreadable (small dark blue hyperlinked text on a black). My EV6 has light and dark mode for the dash and infotainment displays, and are dark mode 100% of the time. Am I the exception that proves the rule? LOL

And yes, Widgetsmith and Sleep++, two @_Davidsmith apps I always use, are dark mode. Of course, daringfireball.net is always quasi-dark mode, which suits me just fine.

@_Davidsmith @gruber I wonder if people, like myself, use Pedometer++ while walking in daylight and so prefer light mode then (even if set to automatic).
@gruber so, I just want to show you my 16 year old daughter’s Home Screen. She’s feeling very excluded by the lack of a “tinted” option here, even though I guess this is technically a subset of dark. 😅
@gruber I would like grey mode. Especially for maps.