@unfa i abandoned it mid-last year. the two things it had going for it [one actual, one promised], they later abandoned ( #webpanels , #treestyletabs). its terrible random habit of losing all tabs on restart [peeps complaining for well over a year of it], & then the Dev's initially just idiosyncratic UI design concept warping into simply silly, then entirely killed it for me.

#FirefoxNightly with #NativeSplitTabs, + #FirefoxSecondSidebar + #TreeStyleTab + #SimpleTabGroups = ๐Ÿ’ƒ๐Ÿฅณ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…๐Ÿ‘
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#FirefoxNightly with #NativeVerticalTabs and #NativeSplitTabs, + #FirefoxSecondSidebar + #SimpleTabGroups = ๐Ÿ’ƒ๐Ÿฅณ๐ŸŽ‰
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#FirefoxNightly + #FirefoxSecondSidebar + #Sidebery = ๐Ÿฅณ๐ŸŽ‰
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#DropbearPooterising #LinuxWomen

I hate the way my browser and tabs are this ever-growing fluster cluck of disorganized piles of sites. I've tried various solutions across various browsers. Now that I'm using #LibreWolf I tried to get serious in this one.

I installed #Sidebery and I really want to use it and like it. Thus far I find it a complete headscratcher. I can configure panels but if I change the name then every panel in every window gets that name? Is the idea that I have few windows with more panels and I switch amongst them?

I like the snapshots in principle. I like the idea of exporting in MD format and syncing it to my #Obsidian repo so I have an insight into my browsing and history that way. It shows each window and their title. Windows have titles? How do I change that?

I'd love to read the documentation on this add-on but apparently there isn't any. Just random Reddit threads with people shouting "Just use Sidebery, dumbass" to each other.

This feels like a tool almost what I want and that the delta between what I understand now and would need to know to use it properly is small but I don't know how to bridge it. These are the kinds of things that make me tired when I use modern technology.

quite tickled today to have finally stumbled over the #TreeStyleTab "settings within the settings" view, in which at last i've been able to greatly narrow the Pinned Tabs' width, to fit many more into a single row.

#sidebery's had this option plainly available in its settings for yonks, & i always felt it weird for #TST to lack that similar granularity. no more need i ponder, the fault was mine, for not burrowing deep enough.

#DropbearPooterising #Linux #LinuxWomen #FOSS
:fedora: #Kinoite   :plasma: #ArchLinux #KDEPlasma
:debian: #SparkyLinux :opensuse: #Kalpa   #KDELinux
:firefox_nightly: #FirefoxNightly #FirefoxSecondSidebar #TreeStyleTab

@kingtor well fwiw, i'm a "fediverse type", & i continue using my desktop Linux  with daily delight. i laugh about, often at, the many panic merchants volubly screaming to abandon ship now. so much operatic hysteria.

// Droppie 24/3/25: Disable all fucken AI: user_pref("browser.ml.enable", false); user_pref("browser.ml.chat.enabled", false); user_pref("browser.ml.chat.sidebar", false); user_pref("browser.ml.chat.menu", false); user_pref("browser.tabs.groups.smart.enabled", false); user_pref("browser.ml.linkPreview.enabled", false);
#FirefoxNightly with #NativeSplitTabs, + #FirefoxSecondSidebar + #TreeStyleTab + #SimpleTabGroups = ๐Ÿ’ƒ๐Ÿฅณ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…๐Ÿ‘
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#FirefoxNightly with #NativeVerticalTabs and #NativeSplitTabs, + #FirefoxSecondSidebar + #SimpleTabGroups = ๐Ÿ’ƒ๐Ÿฅณ๐ŸŽ‰
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#FirefoxNightly + #FirefoxSecondSidebar + #Sidebery = ๐Ÿฅณ๐ŸŽ‰

#DropbearPooterising #LinuxWomen

Youโ€™ve just been upgraded to Firefox Nightly 148!

Every 4 to 5 weeks, a new major version of Firefox is released and as a result, the Nightly version increases as well.

This is a good time to thank you for helping us make Firefox better and to give you some pointers to documentation, communication channels and news sites related to Nightly that may be of interest to you.

#FirefoxNightly with #NativeSplitTabs, + #FirefoxSecondSidebar + #TreeStyleTab + #SimpleTabGroups = ๐Ÿ’ƒ๐Ÿฅณ๐ŸŽ‰๐Ÿ’ฏโœ…๐Ÿ‘

#FirefoxNightly with #NativeVerticalTabs and #NativeSplitTabs, + #FirefoxSecondSidebar + #SimpleTabGroups = ๐Ÿ’ƒ๐Ÿฅณ๐ŸŽ‰

#FirefoxNightly + #FirefoxSecondSidebar + #Sidebery = ๐Ÿฅณ๐ŸŽ‰

#DropbearPooterising

Trying out #Sidebery.

It integrates with history and bookmarks very well, looks nice and does its job.

Links:

Note: remember about enabling "legacy" userChrome and userContent stylesheets in about:config.

Thanks for recommending it to me @muppeth, I love it!

World of Edolas

@zenbrowser Good, nice, thanks... but what about the rest of it? Tab trees... not only for pinned tabs, but all tabs, as per #TreeStyleTab & #Sidebery?

#7359 https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/pull/7359 was supposed to add folders and trees, but a new PR was split off (#9355) that only added folders. Is there any chance that tree tabs will be added eventually or are tab trees not planned?
https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/discussions/891#discussioncomment-14235449+1 here, i'm super looking forward to any native tree implementation in zen. Here's hoping trees were just cut to get folders out faster and are still planned for later.

Either way, would love some transparency on this, as everything pointed at that PR adding trees but they were just dropped for one reason or another.
https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/discussions/891#discussioncomment-14235627I haven't looked too deep into the contents of the folder PR, but much of the UI/UX work of "tree-styled things" should be done so hopefully a tree-style tabs PR would be somewhat simplified.
https://github.com/zen-browser/desktop/discussions/891#discussioncomment-14235802#ZenBrowser #TabTrees #TreeTabs

Initial implementation for folders and tree-styled tabs by mr-cheffy ยท Pull Request #7359 ยท zen-browser/desktop

Functionality: Make firefox groups work only for pinned tabs Correctly restore folders to their designated workspaces after a restart Allow folders to stack up together Split view groups shou...

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Late last year, after having used it as my daily default browser for a few [maybe several?] months, the incessant bugs, unrelenting workflow-buggering major changes, & frequent loss of all tabs, caused me to abandon  [only in early Beta back then, so not totes surprising] & return to ticktacking back & forth twixt  and . Into 2025 those latter two continued competing for my daily affections.

T'other day i learned that the long awaited native #TabFolders in  have now landed in #ZenTwilight [the nightly / Alpha version], & thus might be expected to make it finally into the Beta version within a week or two. This morn, possibly against my better judgement but tbc, that discovery inspired me to jump back into my  Beta & relearn it + learn all the stuff new since i last dabbled, in anticipation of this incipient major design UI & UX change.

All the #KleverKids are saying that Zen's TabFolders are a game-changer, coz they will provide users with the first ever native-in-a-Fox browser tab hierarchical nesting. None of  , nor  has it [all only flat, not tree, structures; ditto flat-only in Chromium, Vivaldi, Edge et al]. Hitherto the only way to gain this important function has been via AddOns like #TreeStyleTab or #Sidebery. These are both fabulous, but do not have access to all the native foxy code bits n pieces [i've damn well forgotten the proper term atm, sigh], so by using either of these AOs we lose some of the important fox functionality, eg, tab context menu items. If the Zen Dev/s do their work really well, we will finally have our tabby cake & eat it.

#ZenBrowser #FirefoxNightly #Floorp #Floorp12

It's such a shame, & tbh a mystery to me, that โ€‹โ€‹ still seems to not have any native tabs lazy-loading option. Excellent AOs like #TreeStyleTab, #Sidebery, and #TabStash have it. Chromium's had it for years.

The closest to it [but this is a very different thing] i can find in
about:config is dom.image-lazy-loading.enabled. That's ok, but IMO is far less important than something like dom.tab-lazy-loading.enabled [which i repeat, atm does not actually exist]. ๐Ÿฅบ

cc:
@firefoxnightly

#Firefox #FirefoxNightly #LazyTabLoading