BluesberryI've noticed that if there's a prominent "unsubscribe" link, I'm more likely to remain subscribed.
musicmatze 
I ask this every now and then here: has someone a #nixos #mailserver #snm setup for #mailinglist #mailinglists with #publicinbox (the software, not the concept) that they can share?
Kevin Karhan 
@andybalaam I disagree, because "truly end-to-end encrypted, decentralized & federated messaging" has been done at leadt trice befire #Matrix came along:
- #XMPP+#OTR ( @gajim & @monocles / #monoclesChat)
- #XMPP+#OMEMO ( #Gajim & monocles chat)
- #PGP/MIME ( @delta / #deltaChat & @thunderbird / #Thunderbird)…
Like I've been in #PGP-encrypted #MailingLists before Matrix and @signalapp were even proposed!
@aliceif make one with
- @zulip
- @RocketChat
- #JitsiMeet
- #Mumble
- @delta / #DeltaChat
- #PiperMail / #MailingLists
- @gajim / #IRC
- @monocles / #MonoclesChat / #XMPP+#OMEMO
- #Tox
plz…
@PinoBatch at least #IRC and #MailingLists have tools to #archive conversations and make them searchable, like #PiperMail for #eMail...
- i.e. one doesn't need to have been subscribed to the #LKML at the time just to find messages where @torvalds made a decision or chewed out someone for testing his patience and goodwill.
And that is a good thing: #Transparency can only work outside of #InformationBlackholes which non-portable & proprietary platforms are.
Damian YerrickDave Cheney went further in 2017: Please stop using chat in general for open-source communities. Even a free protocol like IRC, XMPP, or Matrix disadvantages people with a full-time job and people in less-privileged time zones. Use issue trackers, mailing lists, newsgroups, and other asynchronous forums instead. 2/4
https://dave.cheney.net/2017/04/11/why-slack-is-inappropriate-for-open-source-communications
#chat #timezones #slack #discord #irc #matrix #xmpp #forums #MailingLists #IssueTracker #BugTracker #FreeSoftware #OpenSource #FOSS
@Rycaut @Daojoan congratulatioms, that's just "#MailingLists with extra steps" or a built-in feature of @zulip ...
Kevin Karhan :verified: (@[email protected])
One thing that really pisses me off personally is the #regression in terms of #Messenger #Apps. My personal distaste and dislike for #proprietary, #SingleVendor & #SingleProvider #services like #Signal [¹](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114234551915193036) [²](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114935952643402592), #Telegram, #Discord [³](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114865723904157014) [⁴](https://social.treehouse.systems/@krutonium/115157611977216372), #WhatsApp [⁵](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114873895410403238), #Slack, #MicrosoftTeams, #discord [⁶](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/116063760849048926)[⁷](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/115736223551632209) etc. aside: - *WHY* is there no #CrossProvider #Messenger to handle that shite? - *WHY* does everyone of these shitty providers think people want to download their #bloated #WebApp that takes up triple digit Megabytes if not entire Gigabytes and will gobble up all the #RAM and #CPU each of them can?? This problem ain't new and *already got [solved for corporate social media](https://infosec.space/@kkarhan/114862619013462466) ages ago!* (Not to mention actually good messengers!) - And no, [bridges](https://toots.ch/@dalai/114862754556459439) *[don't](https://swecyb.com/@troed/114862774972645542) count*! - I mean `API 0` - [style](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685423773959519) access because obviously [none of the platforms](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685414638522984) will *allow, endorse or support such an endeavour* and [*actively fight the developers and users*](https://digipres.club/@foone/112685441496803574) ! So yeah, consider this a call for a @[email protected] / #Gajim or @[email protected] / #Pidgin *for garbage platforms!* - Cuz back in the day we had *way worse messengers* yet people actually made #AIM, #ICQ, #MSN, #QQ, #IRC & #XMPP work just fine from one single *"phat" client*! - Can we please get that back? Cuz #WastefulComputing pisses me off! #api0 #Enshittification
Duck Alignment AcademyCommunity leaders are often too quick to segment conversations into different channels, which effectively hides the activity.
https://duckalignment.academy/splitting-conversations-splits-community/
SeverinDo people still use mailing lists?
I've been trying to find an email hoster that does mailing lists, which seems hard to find. Now I'm trying to setup my own mail server with Mailman integration and it's really really painful. Documentation and examples are missing stuff all over the place, shitty web apps, all that. Why? Does just no one use it anymore, so no one really cares? I don't quite get it 🙈
N-gated Hacker NewsWhy use mailing lists in 2025? Apparently, retro email chains are making a comeback, bringing with them all the excitement of reading the endless headers and "X-Virus-Scanned" footnotes. 📧🤦♂️ Who knew dragging the '90s into the future would be so...innovative? 🚀
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/q6A_anL1u-Y9iXe-vboiOYamsl0/ #mailinglists #retroemail #innovation #communication #nostalgia #HackerNews #ngated
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/q6A_anL1u-Y9iXe-vboiOYamsl0/ #mailinglists #retroemail #innovation #communication #nostalgia #HackerNews #ngated