tengo 2 dudas muy concretas sobre el vinagre de manzanas que hice y no encuentro respuestas en la internet, me gustarĂa llegar a algune expert en #fermentos y si todo sale ok tendrĂ© vinagrito pa regalar
invoco #fermentodon
#vinagre #ferment #levadura #acetobacter
Am I being stupid, btw? I acknowledge I could just keep making cider UNTIL I get one that turns to vinegar, and then I will have my mother culture. and I'm assuming I could then keep it viable by "feeding" it in the same would you would sourdough.
What I'm really after is the secret of the getting and keeping viable #acetobacter mother cultures not only for cider (I have an orchard to play with) but also pear (orchard), wine (no grapes ... yet ... ), and malt vinegars.
How do you make #cider #vinegar for #preserving (pickles, chutneys) in a "home kitchen"?
NOT the industrialised process, BTW, no cheating buying things in shops or essential ingredients online! (inc. "mother"!)
If I wanted to make it from first principles using raw ingredients I could grow, forage or culture, how would I go about it? Has anyone experimented with making it for themselves?
I'm assuming:
Step one - Make alcoholic cider!
Step two - Convert the alcohol into vineger using an #acetobacter ... but where do you get the acetobacter if you haven't got the "mother culture" in the first place?
Anyone tried to do it?
How a gut #microbe causes #flies to live fast and die.
https://phys.org/news/2023-07-gut-microbe-flies-fast-die.html
This is work I've been waiting to see come out for at least a year (two!?). Congrats Ren and the Ludington lab on a very cool study!
Acetobacter and Lactobacillus interact in the gut through Lactobacillus' effect in shaping the gut morphology to reshape in-pockets such that more (and varied) Acetobacter can colonize the niche.
#microbiome #HostMicrobe #Drosophila #DrosophilaGut #Acetobacter #Lactobacillus #Symbiosis
Animal gut microbiomes are fairly stable over time despite large daily fluctuations in diet and introductions of environmental bacteria. Here the authors report that fruit flies maintain the stability of their microbiome in part through a physical niche in the esophagus.
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