When I do a web search, I do not want Google to go to the websites for me, pull the information, and interpret it for me. I want it to give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself because AI is frequently wrong: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/19/google-search-as-you-know-it-is-over/
Google Search as you know it is over | TechCrunch

Google is transforming Search from a list of links into an AI-powered experience filled with conversational answers, autonomous agents, and interactive interfaces — a shift that could further reduce traffic to publishers across the web.

TechCrunch
@evacide why think when you can… “not think” I guess is the desired state?

@avuko @evacide that's a false dichotomy. Filtering lists of results isn't typically the goal of your search query, reading them to learn something is.

Changing the list of results with a summary of said results is merely reaching that information differently.

If the AI results become more factual over time and/or people learn to judge sources listed in the AI result (as they must now) it might become just more efficient.

Lots of ifs and buts, I'm aware, I just hope won't suck. 🤞

@dynom @evacide

This shift means that “searching the web” will increasingly be performed by AI agents rather than humans. Instead, people will focus more on acting on the information those agents provide instead of manually clicking links. [My emphasis].

That they frame it as “clicking links” instead of processing information to create your own understanding and worldview, is a very smart and carefully constructed rhetorical trick.

Why spend your energy “clicking links”, which sounds like a useless and boring task, instead of working with the information they want to give you, within a context they control, exposed only to their ads and storylines, that you are then promised you can “act on”.

Like you have any grasp left on what you are acting on…

This whole thing is a worse kind of thought-control than whatever Orwell, Bradbury and Huxley ever came up with. Combined.

@evacide One more reason to degoogle (at least for what concerns searching)

@evacide Welcome to paying for decent search!

I've been using @kagihq for over a year now.

The ad ridden bullshit layer is long gone.

@nuintari @kagihq I am also a fan of Kagi.
@evacide @nuintari @kagihq
I guess it's time I tried it because I'm not interested in AI powered search. No. Not now, not ever.

@TheGreatLlama @evacide @nuintari @kagihq Kagi gives me search. If I want AI I end my query with a ?

I do that maybe once every two or three months. I am extremely happy that the choice is mine to use or not.

I haven't played with kagi assistant so can't say how that fits into the scheme of things.

@TheGreatLlama @evacide @nuintari @kagihq if you can, please do use paid services, because those businesses could really use your business most likely.

However there are ample search engines that are more privacy focussed and (mostly) sans AI: startpage.com, search.brave.com and the already mentioned DuckDuckGo.

@nuintari how much does it cost you?

@nuintari @evacide @kagihq So that your money goes right into Putin's pocket to kill more Ukrainians?[1] No, thanks, there are far more ethical alternatives (searxng, duckduckgo lite) which are also free.

[1]: https://ounapuu.ee/posts/2025/07/17/kagi/

PSA: part of your Kagi subscription fee goes to a Russian company (Yandex)

Unacceptable.

./techtipsy
@raulmatias @nuintari @evacide @kagihq Just found out about https://1.org today.
Startpage - Private Search Engine. No Tracking. No Search History.

Search and browse the internet without being tracked or targeted. Startpage is the world's most private search engine. Use Startpage to protect your personal data.

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@evacide at my work if you use Edge or Chrome, an admin policy prevents changing the search engine from Google. I can't really use Firefox because 1) Threatlocker prevents me from installing extensions and 2) admin policies prevent me from copying text out of Service Now and other apps.

I've been lobbying for awhile to allow us to change search engines so hopefully this gets that moving.

@evacide that's why I first moved to Ecosia and then -because they're doing AI now, too - on to Qwant. I hope they won't integrate AI at some point. 🙄
@evacide Why are you still using Google?

@evacide

You can easily remove the AI Overview...
https://hachyderm.io/@scrivy/116536252469319380

scrivy (@[email protected])

You can prepend your browser's #google search engine query with -ai+ to remove the "AI Overview": https://www.google.com/search?q=-ai+%s #noai #firefox

Hachyderm.io

@evacide The midwest of the US, has over 75% increases in power costs, and their aquifer existing millions of years, is now in direct threat toward extinction - and it's because of #TechBros #greed, heaping #DataCenter #AbuseOfPower upon the innocently ignorant masses.

We're now forced to accelerate desalination, without the benefit of competing energy sources other than #FossilFuels

These abusers must be replaced asap, with ethical #RootInfrastructure #scientists.

@evacide meh, it's why I moved to kagi.com
@kagihq
@evacide this will also kill the rabbit hole. No curiosity. No discovery.
@abetterjulie @evacide Exactly. I sometimes only find my feet after wandering around a bit on a site. I do not want a targeted answered wrapped up by AI.
@evacide I hate everything google. I stopped using their search, maps, and gmail in the 2000s and I haven't missed any of it. As of last year, I finally moved to a Fairphone with /e/OS, so no more google evil in my phone. No one needs google and I'm amazed that anyone still uses their anything.
@DukeDuke @evacide What do you use for shared document authoring with access controls?

@rasterweb @DukeDuke

As google doces alternative, I love https://cryptpad.fr @CryptPad

Others use some nextcloud suite (but I couldn't resolve technical issues).

https://switching.software/ is your friend.

CryptPad: end-to-end encrypted collaboration suite

CryptPad: end-to-end encrypted collaboration suite

@DukeDuke @evacide If by some miracle I survive the summer as anything but an imminently dead homeless person, which looks about as likely as getting struck by lightning, hit by a falling meteor, bitten by a great white shark, and winning the lottery (I hope they're illegal here) all at the same time, I'll have to completely boycott all USA internet services. Not doing so is just begging for the dictatorship over there to do away with me or have me done away with by the local govt. like Operación Cóndor.

@evacide hard agree.

search engines these days, even when not using AI, aren't returning useful links. It's all "what can I sell you related to your search" instead of "here is the information you requested" and its driving me nuts.

@Sablebadger @evacide the other side of the equation is not much better. An increasingly large percentage of results are AI generated trash.
@evacide This is why I self-host a SearXNG instance. Too many search engines deciding what I need to see, so I ask them all to get a more complete answer.
Same here! The only complaint I have is the constant rate-limiting, but otherwise, knowing I'm effectively using ALL THE ENGINES (and with none of the LLM slop) is great for my usage case

@loric @evacide

Same.
This move is still a worrying move though. I reckon this will influence other search engines to do the same thing.

@evacide

Researching for papers always made me happy. Later, I used to Google so deep for so many things. It was my goal to find shit people gave-up looking for. Hell, I used to get a hit on Page 10.
I collected so many gigs of football uniform reference through Goog and the many small websites hidden in corners that it would find with the right guiding.
I quit using it entirely maybe 5 years ago.
Don't get around much. Anymore.

@evacide Agreed. And even if it’s not wrong, it might not be pulling all information from the website. What caveats might people be missing when they only rely on AI overviews? A lot!
@evacide I just changed the default search engine on my phone and will do the same everywhere else once I get back home.
@evacide Ask Jeeves should've hung on a little longer..

@evacide When I was using Safari with duckduck on it, I always turned off AI and search assist. I wouldn't install duck (those settings would've stayed) because last time I did that on my last laptop, I couldn't uninstall it.

When I see anything AI, I quickly check what I missed doing. I type out 90% of my typing because I don't want to lose my typing skills or abillity to spell.

It's a long way of saying that I totally agree with you.

@evacide

I like Ecosia. You can turn AI off and it plants trees when people use it.

@evacide

Shrug. I switched to duckduckgo years ago.

@evacide

Yeah, I first saw reporting on this kind of thing a month or two ago. Google just decided this is the way the web will work now unilaterally and companies are expected to reshape their websites to provide raw materials for Google to fashion content from.

It’s fucking bullshit

@evacide Not to pimp out my youtube channel, but I did a video on a few Google alternatives a month and a half ago. Could be it's helpful.

https://youtu.be/UUOG5c6vyDg

Google Search in 2026: Frustrating, Broken, and Avoidable (Here’s What To Use Instead)

YouTube
@evacide
I've started just asking AI to give me links to the websites. Just tell it "give me a list of websites that I can read and evaluate myself".

@evacide

Just for fun I tried using the "AI mode" (like there's still another kind), and prefaced my search with "Please give me a classic set of google search results, with absolutely no AI summary, for the following terms:"

I got about ten results. It couldn't resist prefacing it with something like "Here are web results for your query", which technically breached the request.

@evacide it's the end of the world(wide web) as we know it and I feel fine

(because I search the whole web less and less and if I do it's not through google)

I switched to Duck Duck Go last week, apparently just in time. Google, once obsessively minimalist and functional, has descended into an ugly pile of crap. I can onlly hope the market gives them what they deserve. 😏
@ArtGeek When google started, I used it and ignored all the other search engines because Google didn't have those annoying, flashing banner ads that loaded before everything else. At that point, Google ads were short tag lines, so everything fit in a single HTTP transaction. The tag lines reminded me of the guys at a classical music station who would read one with a "why am I reduced to this crass commercialism" tone of voice.
@evacide fuck every single bit of that bullshit.
@evacide Watching the process that DeepSeek goes through, at lightning speed, allows me to guide it and get good results, similar to my own process of selecting web links to click, skimming information, etc. Only DeepSeek does it much faster and also elucidates the steps it is taking, while taking them. One doesn't believe the first website at the top of Google (and anyways, usually advertised), nor should one mindlessly take the first AI answer. Both processes, manual and with AI, require mindfulness.
@evacide And the real kicker is that once they do this, they can shape the generated summaries to basically control what we think. :/

@evacide I agree with all the people in this thread who are saying to dump Google. I also think they maybe don't realize exactly how powerful and important Google search is to culture, the economy, politics, etc.

This has ramifications way beyond what search engine the people of Mastodon prefer.

(for the record, I use kagi.)

@alisynthesis @evacide Whenever someone tells me to “Google” something I say “I don’t use Google.”
and hope they ask a follow-up question so I can ramble on about alternatives.
@evacide noai.duckduckgo.com
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@evacide I try to use https://www.mojeek.com/ as a first stop, close to the old GOOG but far fewer indexed pages and can be hit and miss so second stop usually https://www.ecosia.org/search
Mojeek

Mojeek is a web search engine that provides unbiased, fast, and relevant search results combined with a no tracking privacy policy.

@evacide thanks but no thanks
@craftxbox @evacide Same. Wondering if they see the irony.
@evacide Not to mention their black box AI gets to interpret the info how big tech wants it to. Billionaires already manipulate algorithms on their social media to push their agendas. You know damn well they will on their AI platforms.