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I just noticed that BOTH Apple and Google have capitulated to the fever dreams of a dictator who shits himself and rapes children.
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Shadedlady
lopta@Shadedlady @DemocracyMattersALot Had that installed anyway so I just disabled Google Maps on my phone and promoted Organic Maps to the dock.
Rob HooftAnother consideration: “Gulf of America” is only /very/ wrong if you consider that the USA is America, ignoring all other countries on the continent. Which we don’t?
Graham C@rwwh @DemocracyMattersALot then it can't be renamed by just one country on the continent, no?
@adamantichrist @DemocracyMattersALot hm. Most geofeatures have multiple names, and different ones used by different groups or different times? In NL we call “UK”, “VK” and “USA”, “VS”. Our own country we call “Nederland” but others call it “Holland” or “Pays Bas” or “Niederlande”. In many places Beijing used to be called Peking. Eswatini used to be called Swaziland until they changed it. It is true that I would frown a bit if NL beaches would suddenly be flooded by the Danish Gulf.
Woozle Hypertwin
DaveIsn't "Great Againlandia" what the rest of the world calls "West Denmark"? 🤣
@TheLancashireman @DemocracyMattersALot
Me to Denmark: Yes, please annex us! I'm pretty sure Greenland is run 1000x better than we are at this point.
@DemocracyMattersALot I'm in Australia and it has gulf of America in brackets under the real name
Pino Carafa@adamantichrist @DemocracyMattersALot Yup. Pisses me off no end.
I have no problem with Google Maps showing local versions of names. If you happen to be in the USA and you look at that body of water, fine, show Trump's fantasy name. I don't care.
But outside the USA? It's the Gulf of Mexico. It's international waters. That's what it's called. End of.
Thorsten 'Zwieback' Brandt@DemocracyMattersALot
Not in my Apple or Google Maps in Europe. It’s GoM (GoA) in both.
Not in my Apple or Google Maps in Europe. It’s GoM (GoA) in both.
William Hamilton
lupus_blackfurOne of the *many* reasons I use Kagi Maps and/or Open Street Maps instead...
Not looking back.
🤷♂️🤦♂️🤡🫏🖕💩
RightSprung will not comply@lupus_blackfur @DemocracyMattersALot
Here We Go uses Open street maps, and it shows as Gulf of America. It might be the company, or OSM changed it, also.
Just sent them an email...
John@DemocracyMattersALot place and feature names on maps are usually the officially recognized names. Trump passed a law, as moronic as it is, and now we have a new name that these companies use. My map company does the same thing.
Not defending Trump, just explaining how maps are made.
He issued an Executive Order, which doesn’t have a same weight as law—Congress never voted on it.
@silent_john @DemocracyMattersALot Yes but then:
* When you're inside the USA and you look at the map, show "Gulf of America". USA do USA, see if I care.
BUT
* When you're outside the USA, accept that the USA has no, ZERO, jurisdiction over the naming of international bodies of water. It's Gulf of Mexico OR whatever it's called in the local language, e.g. in The Netherlands you might see "Golf van Mexico".
@rozeboosje @DemocracyMattersALot localization should be a thing. It depends on what your local government accepts as "truth". Simply flipping your VPN also might not reveal the correct answer, as you might have cached tiles, etc...
My point is, no matter how stupid the decision to change the name is, it *is* an officially recognized name change.
@silent_john @DemocracyMattersALot No it's not. The "official recognition" ends at the USA borders.
SilkesterBecause Congress didn't change the name, even in the US the official name is Golf of Mexico.
Sadly much of the US is brown-nosing Trump, granting him more power than he actually has.
And lern and teach the power of EOs and why Trump gets his kicked out on the regular. It is embarrassing, how many SCOTUS is waisting time on them.
AngieI've played around with Google Maps using a VPN and I've found that it only shows as "Gulf of America" in the US. Everywhere else it shows "Gulf of Mexico" with the Trumpian variant underneath in parentheses.
@angiebaby @DemocracyMattersALot And that should not be tolerated. International bodies of water? Reference IHO, UNGEGN and UNCLOS ...
The name is "Gulf of Mexico", so when one is outside the USA, that's what it should say or the local version thereof. Nothing else. No parentheses, nothin'
Resistor McResistanceFace"sorry about the Fascism, it's not personal, it's just business" - Capitalism
if only we had the balls for a general strke
Tock@DemocracyMattersALot Still wrong. I'll turn in a correction for Gulf of Epstein.
Baron Vonskinnback@DemocracyMattersALot time to change the USA to the URA (United Rapists of the Americas) for everyone...
The Turtle
dino@DemocracyMattersALot What's the problem? America is not U.S.A. and Mexico is a country on the American continent.
Mayor of Nerdocrumbesia 🏡
🇨🇦 Steve@DemocracyMattersALot Only in the US, and showing local labels is probably appropriate.
Internationally, it shows the generally recognized label first (Mexico) and the disputed label (America) in parenthesis after.
I hate this, too, but it's how it's usually done. Place names are in dispute all the time.
Thales@DemocracyMattersALot provide alternatives then. I notice for 6 years now (much much longer, going back to the 60s for recent sake), people just keep pointing out problems, offering no robust solutions. Especially people with money, influence and resources, while expecting people who deliberately keep sabotaging and ignoring democracy, to just stop and see things your way, while they make it more and more difficult to reverse, gaslighting their way through as if its for everyones benefit. Sheep!
Unrealistic expectations, and the reason the whole country is paying the price, but now it’s also OTHER countries having to deal with this “not my problem as long as it’s not at my doorstep” attitude and outlook, because of this negligence, lackluster and superiority complex that prevents the change from happening. All systemically so.
Toni Aittoniemi@DemocracyMattersALot I find it weird to have assumptions that big business DOESN’T kiss the ring.
Only Americans think like that. Is weird, and history proves it wrong. Every time.
Jay 
@DemocracyMattersALot another reason to use OpenStreetMap
hunderteins@jay9 @DemocracyMattersALot osm.org has different names for that node: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/305639190
Editwar inclusive.
Ondřej Michálek
Ben HammondGooglemaps does the same bothsiding thing when viewed from the UK
Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷@DemocracyMattersALot @benh @om Same in Germany.
They're only fully complying in the US. I assume they'd do similar in China and other regimes.
Ellen Bakker
7leaguebootdisk𓅽@DemocracyMattersALot MapQuest, GuruMaps, and Sygic all show the Gulf of Mexico.
Benjamin Balder Bach@DemocracyMattersALot I miss the time when you could add a review on Google Maps of anything... like review a whole continent. Someone's review of Asia:
»It was pretty neat but way bigger than I expected. I didn't have time to see it all in my stop-over flight. Also a bit too spicy, but not bad. (3 stars)«
Otherwise: »The Gulf of Mexico is a great Gulf because of cool places like Mexico and Cuba, but unfortunately so much noise and smell from adjacent USA area (3 stars)«
CubeOfCheese
Robin Adams
MooMoo the Cat@robinadams @DemocracyMattersALot #alt4U
The above post includes a screenshot of a tweet from the @MapQuest account from social media platform, "X" (formerly Twitter before a shithead bought it and broke it), that reads:
"fyi MapQuest is NOT renaming the Gulf of Mexico - not because of politics but because we haven't updated our maps in like 15 years and don't remember how to do it"
The above post includes a screenshot of a tweet from the @MapQuest account from social media platform, "X" (formerly Twitter before a shithead bought it and broke it), that reads:
"fyi MapQuest is NOT renaming the Gulf of Mexico - not because of politics but because we haven't updated our maps in like 15 years and don't remember how to do it"
@DemocracyMattersALot Wonder whether I can uninstall Google Maps...
𝐂𝐫𝐢𝐦𝐞𝐃𝐚𝐝@DemocracyMattersALot Happy to report that the Gran Fiesta Tour Starring The Three Caballeros attraction at #EPCOT in #WaltDisneyWorld still has a map referring to it as the Gulf of Mexico. #DisneyPosting
ℍ𝕠𝕨@DemocracyMattersALot I remember this change from no more than 4 days after Trump said this stupid name.
filobus@DemocracyMattersALot they have not capitulated, they are part of the system, how can you not understand yet?
They are technoligarchy
Our knowledge has been digitalized, and now they can change it in an instant, and some will never notice or remember
It's not the time to be naive anymore
They are technoligarchy
Our knowledge has been digitalized, and now they can change it in an instant, and some will never notice or remember
It's not the time to be naive anymore
maexchen1
David 🖋️@DemocracyMattersALot real Americans refer to the gulf as Cheddar Bay.