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story of AI batshit crazy Microslop in two pictures 🤣 they missed browser and mobile devices and now they started force feeding AI slop to everyone thinking that it will be chance of lifetime but guess what? it backfired. i am surprised it is only down 31%. they should go out of business for all these shity and intrusive practices.

dodothedev🦤💻2d ago

@nixCraft
The problem is, the uninformed love it. The amount of meeting notes and emails that have been "I asked copilot to..." is scary. I'm the weird and paranoid one for refusing to use it at work, but at least I'm keeping my skills alive.

What will happen to those people when the bubble bursts, MS inevitably removes copyLot and they have to think for themselves again?

Aedius Filmania ⚙️🎮🖊️2d ago

@DodoTheDev @nixCraft

What makes you assumed that they were thinking in the first place ?

I have a lot of coworker that are very good at negotiation, or rewriting or following process, but they cannot think outside their little box.

I cant count the number of time where i got "this value here is wrong, it must be a multiple of that value" and they cannot explain to me what those values mean neither to explain how i'm supposed to compute them.

Of course they are right. But do they think ?

dodothedev🦤💻2d ago

@Aedius @nixCraft
Because these people are otherwise very intelligent. They just don't know (or care) about the details and - more importantly - don't have the time to summarise a 1 hour meeting into notes.

That's how Microslop (and all the other AI bollocks) get you: convenience. Its easier to throw a meeting transcript into CopyLot and get a well written plausible looking summary. But we've already had it hallucinate a task no one asked for. But they don't see how sinister it is, they laugh

dodothedev🦤💻2d ago

@Aedius @nixCraft
Its the same thing with cookies. It's easier to accept all and look at what you wanted (whilst giving away all your data).

I questioned my friend over it "well, they've already got my data, so what's the harm?" A LOT! "But all my friends and family are there" well maybe they shouldn't be?

Ease, convenience and too difficult to _not_ do it means people will continue giving away freedoms till its too late.

Scott Miller 🇺🇦 🇺🇸2d ago

@DodoTheDev @nixCraft FYI, some folks at large orgs are using it enough to stay on the right side of metrics. Yes Copilot usage metrics at the org chart is available for enterprise customers. Just saying. 😎

dodothedev🦤💻2d ago

@scottmiller42 @nixCraft
Sorry, I don't understand. What do you mean?

Scott Miller 🇺🇦 🇺🇸2d ago

@DodoTheDev @nixCraft At some orgs, if you don’t use the AI they’ve paid for enough, it’s going to count against you at review time. Also don’t shoot the messenger.

dodothedev🦤💻2d ago

@scottmiller42 @nixCraft
Oh, I see. Yes, I know. Fortunately, ours isn't like that (yet), but a lot of our training is about AI this and AI that.

They're even considering getting AI to answer or filter emergency calls which boggles my mind.

I'd never shoot the messenger, I prefer civil discussion. If I didn't like what you said, I wouldn't engage (that's why I asked for clarification), so don't worry. 😊

Scott Miller 🇺🇦 🇺🇸2d ago

@DodoTheDev @nixCraft Thanks! Appreciate it. Some folks are very excitable (diplomatic speak) about AI. A lot of us folks have families, we need our paychecks, and just gotta make a compromise or two to make it.

dodothedev🦤💻2d ago

@scottmiller42 @nixCraft
Oh, I totally get it and agree. Some people are a bit overenthusiastic (diplomatic speak) about certain topics 😉 And that's great, but I agree, there has to be a happy medium.

And JFC, I'm not saying I've _never_ used AI or think its *all* bad. I say I'm not anti-AI, I'm Anti-AI-Hype. My son read AI at uni and he doesn't trust it, so I trust him.

Siim Ošur 1d ago

@DodoTheDev @nixCraft If they don't think by themselves when talking to me and use sloppilot to do so. Why on earth would I think a response to them?
I've already presented my stance to a few people I know and said that if you ever use AI to "talk" to me, then you're dead to me.
I talk to either you, or not at all.

dodothedev🦤💻1d ago

@siim @nixCraft
Agreed. But hard to do when that person is your boss.

@nixCraft obviously their falling stock price is a market signal that there is still not enough AI slop in their products /s

We need to get rid of these big tech corporations. They are starting to act against our interests.

Melroy van den Berg 2d ago

@xs4me2 @nixCraft starting? You mean they did for years already. Right?

Magnus Ahltorp 2d ago

@melroy @xs4me2 @nixCraft Microsoft has been doing this very publicly for at least three decades, longer less publicly.

@melroy @nixCraft

That is the game of capitalism on which the USA are built upon. The big post WW2 IT techs are the ultimate culmination of it. Neoliberal capitalism where winner takes all... and the rest has nothing... like Standard Oil and its monopoly they should be stopped as we see how it does not end well...

The new generation of Silicon Valley actors are much more toxic than Microsoft btw...

Forse (he/him)2d ago

@xs4me2 @nixCraft Dude. They are corporations. Unless you are a shareholder, they are *legally* *required* to act against your interests.

EDIT: nope. My claim is unsupported.

@forse @nixCraft

Corporations are part of society, and they should act as such.

But we are in the endgame of neoliberal capitalism it seems, where winner takes all. A self-destructive strategy.

We have been there before, and we can change it again.

Standard Oil was once the world's largest monopoly, controlling Founded by John D. Rockefeller in 1870, it was broken up by the Supreme Court into 34 companies in 1911.

And by the way, tax them, for they are part of society.

MidgePhoto 1d ago

@forse @xs4me2 @nixCraft

"Legally required" --> [citation required]

@Photo55 @forse @nixCraft

There is no such such thing…

Forse (he/him)16h ago

@Photo55 @xs4me2 @nixCraft You are right, I seem to have fallen for a myth.
Thanks for the correction.

Yes, but there are still a lot of MS junkies out there (especially in businesses) who think they can't do anything if they don't have their windows+msoffice.

ImakeIcecream 2d ago

@nixCraft Who would have thought, after telling everyone that AI will replace millions of jobs, people aren't having it and #AIslop is trending.

@nixCraft
"Everybody"?

Do you know a single person who is actually still using Microsoft?

@janneke @nixCraft we unfortunately use Microsoft's ecosystem at work. And so does the entire constellation of contractors.

@douglasvb @nixCraft
Maybe someone should stand up and say: No more of this shit.

@janneke @nixCraft Some people are happily drinking the Kool-Aid. I have largely stopped attending Team meetings but when I have to I keep my mic muted bc I've been misquoted by Co-Pilot too many times.

@janneke @nixCraft
Not voluntarily no, but basically everyone in an office job is exposed to it every working hour, and many of us have very explicit LLM use KPIs too.
Edit: Out of business? Probably not, because their lock-in is so strong, but they WILL go the way of IBM, drifting into irrelevance because they keep shipping things everyone hates.

@janneke @nixCraft yes, my current place of work, and 2 of their massive customers haven't disabled that copilot crap on anything 😡

doragasu 2d ago

@nixCraft They also have this big problem, they have invested so much on OpenAI, that when it bursts into flames, they might be forced to buy it to try saving what they can. They are not as f*cked as Oracle because of their stupid investment on the tech, but they have big problems.

richintheflow 2d ago

@nixCraft And not only Microsoft. Over the last 6 months: Oracle -50%, Nvidia, -10%, Palantir -22%, Meta -27%, IBM -15%, snowflake -31% ... and the list goes on

Conny Nasch 2d ago

@richintheflow 😱 😂 🤣 😂 @nixCraft

nixCraft 🐧2d ago

@connynasch @richintheflow i feel so bad.. lol. just kidding. let all of them go to the /dev/null.

Siim Ošur 1d ago

@nixCraft @connynasch @richintheflow The unfortunate side-effect of them heading to /dev/null is that the economic downturn that will inevitably arrive because of it, is going to affect all of us, in some way.

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@richintheflow @nixCraft Good. Let them drown.

stony kark 2d ago

@nixCraft oh no, all the shareholder value

Fahri Reza 🍉2d ago

@nixCraft the Epstein class

Stefan Beyer 2d ago

I don't fully agree. As much as I’ve come to hate Microsoft’s AI strategy and products: if you look at the share price over the last three years, it actually seems to be heading back towards a more ‘normal’ level

𐁂𐀑𐀐𐁐 2d ago

@nixCraft they're not even being punished for that. It's part of an overall tech selloff. The sad truth is there is NO reality-based correction mechanisms in contemporary markets other than maaaaaybe energy prices, which we are currently testing. The entire Habermassian intersubjectivity house of cards that capitalism is based upon is just provably incorrect after computers. Centrally managed surveillance moves information faster and more accurately than markets now. Maybe always did.

@Emerson61 @nixCraft just vibe with it

Ranja ١٣١٢ 2d ago

@nixCraft
Stop making me want copilot.

@nixCraft though it's also important to compare their stocks against others who haven't done as much AI shit. Tech stocks in general have had a not so great last 6 months. It's not only about who is a loser. It's who is a loser in comparison to others.

Wulfy—Speaker to the machines 2d ago

Microsoft has not been a software company for at least two decades.

The bulk of their profit is from managing their vast financial assets.