BenFeels like there's a lot of binary puritanical stuff online sometimes. 'If you're not personally working 24/7 to combat climate change you are a terrible person' etc. We're all very tired. Frankly I think we're doing a great job, considering. I just think it's OK to be a bit shitty sometimes. You can just be a bit shitty sometimes. If anyone says anything, just tell them I said it's OK. The Ben commandments.
Nick
internetsdairy@TheBreadmonkey I couldn't work out how to clean an old bottle of Worcestershire sauce yesterday so I just chucked it in the bin.
nicole4fox@internetsdairy @TheBreadmonkey i cant even pronounce its mame
@nicole4fox @TheBreadmonkey it's OK you got the pronoun right
@internetsdairy @TheBreadmonkey In Yorkshire they clean bottles of Worcestershire Sauce by pouring them down the sink and filling them with Henderson’s Relish.
Simon Greenwood@TheBreadmonkey @Nickiquote I do need to find some vegan equivalent tbh. And stop using fish sauce.
Sorry I meant Henderson's relish is vegan whereas Worcestershire sauce isn't. But WS is ubiquitous and HR is not, round my manor. So I always get a little joy when I find some. But don't use it enough that I've ever really thought to look for it.
@TheBreadmonkey @internetsdairy Recently spotted by me Down South in Waitrose and Home Bargains.
Fardels Bear@Nickiquote @internetsdairy @TheBreadmonkey
Apropos of nothing, I vaguely remember an Edwardian detective story in which the police were convinced someone had murdered his spouse but didn't have any evidence. They were reduced to lurking outside and watching the suspect chop down all 40 trees on the property and order in crateloads of 'Gentleman's Relish'.
Presumably to work up an appetite and make the evidence slip down more easily.
Heather 👻@internetsdairy @TheBreadmonkey I mean, glass is fairly inert. I feel slightly bad doing that to the plastic jars but then again, you can't really recycle plastic that well either. I should just buy in glass...
@Akki @TheBreadmonkey To Ben’s point – sometimes I’m cleaning out a peanut butter jar and then remember how many billionaire jets are currently tearing through the atmosphere and I’m like, it’s probably OK if I’m not 100% consistent with this kind of thing.
@internetsdairy @TheBreadmonkey My (estranged) brother-in-law works for (evilcompanyeveryoneknows) and owns a small plane.
I don't own a car and never have.
I can throw out the occasional jar. I'm still on the lower level of this balance scale of my immediate family.
@Akki @TheBreadmonkey Yeah, I don’t have a car either, or indeed a plane, so I figure I’m doing OK compared to many people.
Can’t bring myself to sell my hovercraft fleet though.
Can’t bring myself to sell my hovercraft fleet though.
John Maxwell
"Mediocre Bunny" Evelyn@internetsdairy @Akki @TheBreadmonkey
I have given up on peanut butter jars. I have only a few more decades of reasonably expected lifespan, and the time it takes to clean out a peanut butter jar eats up far too much of that.
I have given up on peanut butter jars. I have only a few more decades of reasonably expected lifespan, and the time it takes to clean out a peanut butter jar eats up far too much of that.
Дими́трий@Gorfram @internetsdairy @Akki @TheBreadmonkey
also: THIS IS NOT AN INDIVIDUAL's RESPONSIBILITY.
that is the lie we've been told.
<rant>
all of the pollution, deforestation, poisoning, and toxicity are the inevitable result of capitalist ethics.
you've been programmed to feel 'bad' about your personal impact on the environment. cleaning out the peanut butter jar before tossing it in the recycle bin makes you feel 'better' about yourself and absolves the peanut butter manufacturer of any culpability in the destruction of our only habitable ecosystem.
there is no 'ethical consumption' under capitalism.
in order to preserve this biosphere, and thus their own existance, humans must somehow overcome the power of the capitalist oppressors in order to regain their fundamental rights to negotiate new social arrangements, to freely travel, and to disobey.
I don't think we'll be able to do it by force; I don't think we'll be able to effectively organize in time. we can only hope that the inevitable collapse of this deranged system will not be perfectly destructive and that any survivors can establish better, life-sustaining systems.
</rant>
David Phd@internetsdairy @TheBreadmonkey
I can't figure out how to easily remove the last bit of food from the old cat food tins. I figure well they're going to melted down anyway ... hashtag climate effort
@cmsdengl @TheBreadmonkey I'm assuming if they do actually recycle stuff there must be a cleaning stage as hardly anyone is going to be doing it that thoroughly.
urig@TheBreadmonkey duck me, you made me realize "binary" is now a derogative in every conceivable sense of the word. FML
Curious@TheBreadmonkey words of wisdom from the Ben. I encourage people to do what they can manage, but it's about progress not perfection. Be compassionate and that includes yourself.
millennial fulcrum@TheBreadmonkey I've never seen anybody on fedi try to police individuals' carbon footprints.
whole categories of people, now that's where you can really roll out the blanket statements.
Have you met the #degrowth people. Nothing is good enough for them and renewable technologies are evil because it takes carbon to manufacture them (even though renewables offset their carbon usage in a matter of weeks or months).
skaphle@skaphle @falcennial @TheBreadmonkey
By met I mean of course in the posted-on-Mastodon sense - hence the hash tag. As can be inferred from the OP
Navi 
@TheBreadmonkey if you are not personally working 24/7 to combat climate change you hate waffles
TayFoNay, Sigh-D@TheBreadmonkey Boses doesn’t really work for a screen name does it
I read binary as 'whiny' at first.
abeorch@TheBreadmonkey Yeah .. that's #PuritySpirals for you. Don't feel bad - I still haven't completed #Openstreetmap yet either.
Paper Moon@TheBreadmonkey Personally, I am tired of this culture of being told that I must be angry about certain things, that I am not doing enough, that I am expected to do something to qualify as a good person. I think, I will decide for myself what I should do and leave it for others to think whatever they like about me, while I will sleep at night in the knowledge that I have done enough, in my opinion.
Perkele@TheBreadmonkey I dont remember who said it but the quote stuck with me. It went something like
"we don't need a few people to be 100% vegan. We need a lot of people to be vegan a few days per week"
Obviously that extends to stuff like fighting climate change and injustices etc. We can't do all of the things all the time, but we can do some of the things every other day.
gary@TheBreadmonkey don't eat too much bread or you will break a sphincter valve #bread eaters mostly #no baking skills