Feels like there's a lot of binary puritanical stuff online sometimes. 'If you're not personally working 24/7 to combat climate change you are a terrible person' etc. We're all very tired. Frankly I think we're doing a great job, considering. I just think it's OK to be a bit shitty sometimes. You can just be a bit shitty sometimes. If anyone says anything, just tell them I said it's OK. The Ben commandments.
@TheBreadmonkey I couldn't work out how to clean an old bottle of Worcestershire sauce yesterday so I just chucked it in the bin.
@internetsdairy @TheBreadmonkey In Yorkshire they clean bottles of Worcestershire Sauce by pouring them down the sink and filling them with Henderson’s Relish.
@TheBreadmonkey @Nickiquote I do need to find some vegan equivalent tbh. And stop using fish sauce.

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Sorry I meant Henderson's relish is vegan whereas Worcestershire sauce isn't. But WS is ubiquitous and HR is not, round my manor. So I always get a little joy when I find some. But don't use it enough that I've ever really thought to look for it.

@TheBreadmonkey @internetsdairy Recently spotted by me Down South in Waitrose and Home Bargains.
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They sell it all over the UK in B&M now Ben.

My initial elation at this discovery was soured somewhat by the realisation that I'd need to come up with a whole new set of excuses to go to Sheffield.

Thankfully Wifeface accepts "I want to go get pissed in Shakespeare's" because she likes that pub too.

Edit: i did of course mean Home Bargains not B&M.

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@TheBreadmonkey @jamesb @internetsdairy Sorry Ben, I forgot you only shop at Harrods.

@Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey @jamesb @internetsdairy The Knightsbridge Bazaar is sufficient for the Footballers and the visiting Emirati set.

A true gentleman maintains his account at Fortnum and Mason.

@davidbcohen @TheBreadmonkey @jamesb @internetsdairy This is true: Harrods is shite.
Christian the lion - Wikipedia

@Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey @jamesb @internetsdairy No - the last predator they kept at Harrods died in 2023.
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Fuck's sake David. I just shot beer out through my nose.
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@jamesb @Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey @internetsdairy My sincere apologies. Suffering beer wastage in a Cost of Living Crisis is not to be sneezed at.
@davidbcohen
It's ok, I asked the barmaid for a straw and have managed to suck up all the remnants from the table.
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@jamesb @Nickiquote @TheBreadmonkey @internetsdairy Capital! That’s the can do spirit that got us through the Blitz.
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As a bonus I also managed to get some salt and pepper, an earing and what I think might be horseradish sauce. At least I hope it was horseradish sauce. I couldn't really tell, it was a bit salty.
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Apropos of nothing, I vaguely remember an Edwardian detective story in which the police were convinced someone had murdered his spouse but didn't have any evidence. They were reduced to lurking outside and watching the suspect chop down all 40 trees on the property and order in crateloads of 'Gentleman's Relish'.

Presumably to work up an appetite and make the evidence slip down more easily.

@internetsdairy @TheBreadmonkey I mean, glass is fairly inert. I feel slightly bad doing that to the plastic jars but then again, you can't really recycle plastic that well either. I should just buy in glass...
@Akki @TheBreadmonkey To Ben’s point – sometimes I’m cleaning out a peanut butter jar and then remember how many billionaire jets are currently tearing through the atmosphere and I’m like, it’s probably OK if I’m not 100% consistent with this kind of thing.

@internetsdairy @TheBreadmonkey My (estranged) brother-in-law works for (evilcompanyeveryoneknows) and owns a small plane.

I don't own a car and never have.

I can throw out the occasional jar. I'm still on the lower level of this balance scale of my immediate family.

@Akki @TheBreadmonkey Yeah, I don’t have a car either, or indeed a plane, so I figure I’m doing OK compared to many people.
Can’t bring myself to sell my hovercraft fleet though.
@internetsdairy @Akki @TheBreadmonkey Obviously. No more than I would sell my SR-71.
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I have given up on peanut butter jars. I have only a few more decades of reasonably expected lifespan, and the time it takes to clean out a peanut butter jar eats up far too much of that.

@Gorfram @internetsdairy @Akki @TheBreadmonkey

also: THIS IS NOT AN INDIVIDUAL's RESPONSIBILITY.

that is the lie we've been told.

<rant>

all of the pollution, deforestation, poisoning, and toxicity are the inevitable result of capitalist ethics.

you've been programmed to feel 'bad' about your personal impact on the environment. cleaning out the peanut butter jar before tossing it in the recycle bin makes you feel 'better' about yourself and absolves the peanut butter manufacturer of any culpability in the destruction of our only habitable ecosystem.

there is no 'ethical consumption' under capitalism.

in order to preserve this biosphere, and thus their own existance, humans must somehow overcome the power of the capitalist oppressors in order to regain their fundamental rights to negotiate new social arrangements, to freely travel, and to disobey.

I don't think we'll be able to do it by force; I don't think we'll be able to effectively organize in time. we can only hope that the inevitable collapse of this deranged system will not be perfectly destructive and that any survivors can establish better, life-sustaining systems.

</rant>

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I can't figure out how to easily remove the last bit of food from the old cat food tins. I figure well they're going to melted down anyway ... hashtag climate effort

@cmsdengl @TheBreadmonkey I'm assuming if they do actually recycle stuff there must be a cleaning stage as hardly anyone is going to be doing it that thoroughly.