@cmccullough oh great, the AI infestation comes to Linux now?

@justbob @cmccullough no, it will not make it into the kernel.

It's for the distros to decide.

@webbop @cmccullough

I'd put money on Ubuntu being the first but Debian, not so much. (Even though Ubuntu is a copy of Debian)

@justbob @cmccullough I believe Ubuntu is based on Debian.

But yeah, since Ubuntu is more directed towards the casual user I would expect it to adopt AI first. And the devs have been known to stick with decisions many don't like.

@justbob @cmccullough the year of freebsd desktop when? /hj
@justbob @cmccullough Linux ≠ Linux Foundation. The LF is full of corporate nonsense which should be obvious looking at their top members.
@cmccullough "Platinum Members of the new Agentic AI Foundation include Amazon Web Services, Anthropic, Block, Bloomberg, Cloudflare, Google, Microsoft, and OpenAI." 🤮

@cmccullough
> Anthropic donates <some specs>, OpenAI donates <other specs>
> no actual code

IMO nothing to worry about.

@cmccullough What makes you think that a "Foundation" with hundreds of corporate members would keep away from AI???
@cmccullough @xgranade "You either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
@nivex @cmccullough I don't know that Linux Foundation was ever quite the hero, so much as a very pragmatic compromise with institutionalism. A lot of good folks worked and continue working on making that an effective compromise, but I read shit like this as the downside of trying to work within institutional power.
@cmccullough I'm going to play devil's advocate and say that if tech companies are going to chase after the bubble then I'd rather it be open than proprietary. it's far from the most ideal outcome but not the worst one either
@cmccullough people must be being paid or otherwise bribed to get on board at a time when even financial publications are getting squeamish about AI.
@cmccullough @alice They want to make sure people stay on Windows. Why move if they're no differences between the twos 🫠
@Em0nM4stodon @alice @cmccullough I was experimenting with FreeBSD on my laptop recently, as a daily driver (wanted to write a review on this OS), and then shit like this hits the fan...Thats sad, but also an ironic timing I guess. ​
@Em0nM4stodon @cmccullough @alice It'll ultimately be up to each distro to either adopt this or shoot it dead just to be sure.
@cmccullough
Why can't we just have *one* god damned safe haven from all this useless bullshit?!
@StarkRG @cmccullough NetBSD explicitly bans AI from their codebase as 'tainted code.'
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@cmccullough [crosses linux enshittified off the bingo card]
@bangskij @cmccullough This is not a game of Bingo I’d like to win.
#bingo #linux #AI #enshitification
@bangskij @cmccullough Linux ≠ Linux Foundation
@cmccullough The companies involved in the funding are looking to fuck Linux users. "You can't get away from us."

Well fuck all that.

I will fight this shit to my dying breath. I'm no developer, so I'll just have to advocate for AI-free Linux. I think there does need to be a very serious discussion on developing an AI-free version of Linux. We need to be proactive and look at this as a war.

@TheLastOfHisName This has nothing to do with Linux besides just being a project formed by the Linux Foundation.

Its projects are the Model Context Protocol, goose AI agent and AGENTS.md, all useful stuff IMO, but not necessarily related to the Linux kernel.

@TheLastOfHisName @cmccullough the "Linux foundation" has basically nothing to do with linux. It's just a bunch of other corporations in a trench coat.
@cmccullough Truly garbage in garbage out.
@cmccullough bubbles gonna pop before the foundation does anything
@cmccullough It's honestly a good thing that they do very little that is relevant to anyone who actually works in the real world. Unfortunate that they have a couple relevant projects, but those can be replaced/forked/what-have-you as needed.

@cmccullough

"The Agentic #AI Foundation aims for a neutral, open foundation to ensure agentic AI evolves transparently and collaboratively."

and:

"Platinum Members of the new Agentic AI Foundation include #Amazon Web Services, #Anthropic, Block, Bloomberg, Cloudflare, #Google, #Microsoft, and #OpenAI."

is all we need to know... 💩

#AAIF #LinuxFoundation #CorporateBS #BigTech

@cmccullough MCP, goose, AGENTS.md, all good things I would say.

I'm no big AI fan, but I've been interested in MCP for a while to have a nice integration with a self-hosted LLM in specific tools, and I've heard of AGENTS.md, but not of goose, although it's described as an 'open source, extensibile AI agent' which sounds good.

None of this is related to Linux itself, it's just the Linux Foundation that formed this "neutral, open foundation" that evolves AI "transparently, collaboratively" with...famously open-source companies like OpenAI, Anthropic and many other members including SUSE and Zed Industries.

We'll see how this goes.

@cmccullough I guess there will always be OpenBSD...
@cmccullough so much effort and money put into #AI, and then it takes one very simple browser plugin to replace all "Agentic AI Foundation" with a more straightforward "Bullshit Lalala Foundation"
@cmccullough
I wonder what'll emerge to replace the Linux kernel if the Linux Foundation commits to joining the AI ant death spiral. Probably just a fork, given everything that depends on it, but maybe some neat projects will pop up.
@cmccullough That’s the Linux Foundation on the naughty list, then - clearly they are about money rather than freedom.

"The ... "AAIF" has been formed with Anthropic contributing the Model Context Protocol (MCP), Block's goose, and OpenAI contributing their AGENTS.md ..."

#MichaelLarabel, 2025

https://www.phoronix.com/news/Linux-Foundation-Agentic-AI

Why so worried @cmccullough? This is standard practice for the LF. Which was formed by corporations to push their agendas into GNU/Linux, and sideline the FSF/GNU Project's role in its development.

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@stopthatgirl7

Linux Foundation's Newest Endeavor: The Agentic AI Foundation

The Linux Foundation today announced it's formed another foundation under its growing umbrella that extends well beyond the traditional 'Linux' landscape: the Agentic AI Foundation.

What this article reports is;

* new legal sub-entity in Linux Foundation

* sponsored by corporations, like everything LF do

* some copyrights, etc, handed over to the sub-entity, as a neutral ground where a group of corporations can share work on them

This is neither good nor bad news. It's just business administrativia news.

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@cmccullough if they're a foundation, they need to open their books and show who’s paying to hijack their brand and infect them with the techbro mindvirus.