Ace Jon
LiamJust a reminder that friends don't let friend use the Brave browser
Dakki Reads@ThePlant you had me at "recommended by weird crypto bros"
Radi@ThePlant shit, I just switched to brave đ
Carmelo Canavan
Luis Guilherme Oliveira@ThePlant This shit says it cares about your privacy, but it uses Google's WebKit and has pretty disgusting practices regarding data usage, right?
unlucio đ 
@ThePlant @luisoliveira31 Google killed WebKit (made and open-sourced by Apple) in favor of their Blink engine.
Brave is indeed based on Chromium, like pretty much 99% of browsers out there except for Firefox and Safari.
Using Chromium doesn't mean inheriting all Google's crap, and on top of that browsers like Brave or Vivaldi further remove more stuff that could hinder privacy.
Yes, Brendan Eich is a horrible person, and the crypt stuff is ridiculous, but Brave's tech is actually sound.
aly@unlucio @ThePlant @luisoliveira31 It's also open source, unlike Vivaldi or Edge, so you can actually check that for yourself.
Baggins@ThePlant Vivaldi is far better on just about every level.
Bart Allen@ThePlant I switched from Brave once I started seeing things I searched for show up as ads on my news feed. They also started showing ads in their search results which was something they said in the beginning they'd never do. But hey you can get rid of them for $3/mo !
lebochequirit
Kuketz-Blog đĄ@lebochequirit @ThePlant Siehe zweiter Teil der Serie.
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/sichere-und-datenschutzfreundliche-desktop-browser-teil-2/
Dark HorseCorbin Davenport's screed (spacebar news) against Mozilla founder Brendan Eich proved to me that there are still many fascists in the tech media space, and many "journalists" who don't support privacy and free speech rights.
13 barn owls in a trenchcoat@darkhorse1 just say you don't like gay people and go, petal
Martina Neumayer@ThePlant Well.. we don't have much bigger or wider choice in this topic on both, mobile or stationary platforms. Every browser is more or less based on someones same engine. No matter if google's, mozilla's or apple's but still. We do not have something really free, foss, or not owned, ruled by some big-tech, corpo etc. In this topic we all are trully sitting ducks as heck.
Soma@MartinaNeumayer @ThePlant
So true. Just like a world of almost 10billion brains with just 2mobile OS ( android or apple) or 2desktop OS manufacturers (microsoft or apple) - all american, are they stopping or stiffling other development or manufacturers etc
If you are not a thief, you cant rule the world, weird .
So true. Just like a world of almost 10billion brains with just 2mobile OS ( android or apple) or 2desktop OS manufacturers (microsoft or apple) - all american, are they stopping or stiffling other development or manufacturers etc
If you are not a thief, you cant rule the world, weird .
And now its even much weirder you cant find something as simple as usable, stable or really genuine(private and not data thiefs) #browsers, #email, #socialmedia #vpn #apps etc
#shame
#technology #science #advancement #tech #developers #manufacturers #development #monopoly #os #phones #computers #desktops
@soma_u @ThePlant You know, some of these you can at least build on your own hand. Vpn for example, some apps and even email for your purposes. That's not a very big problem. Sources are available, it's only a matter of some time and work.
But lots of other things are not so easy to develop in the matter of the "one man army". As I discuss this topic with my husband, we have enough devs, resources, money too to do that. The question is why not unite together and take this case(s) in our hands?
But lots of other things are not so easy to develop in the matter of the "one man army". As I discuss this topic with my husband, we have enough devs, resources, money too to do that. The question is why not unite together and take this case(s) in our hands?
@soma_u @ThePlant Not only two, because we have some other systems more or less ready for desktops and also mobile platforms. I am writing this from my SailfishOS based phone now and works superb. But you forgot about one most important, sensitive and neuralgic thing which we don't have yet despite the many years of the whole open-source story. A free from bullshit, foss, friendly etc, mobile (and not only) nfc payments system and corresponding to this apps.
That is an enormous level of scary!
That is an enormous level of scary!
Martin Be@MartinaNeumayer @ThePlant Yes, you're absolutely right! And this what happened today is exactly that, what we have talked about few days ago.
If the browser or the engine that browser is based on is under someone's control, they always can do literally anything they want with it.
That's why we need something totally independent. To avoid that.
Look please what the hell Mozilla is doing right now. One click and tons of people are doomed:
Kevin Rothrock (@[email protected])
At the request of Russiaâs federal censor, the Mozilla Foundation, the entity behind Firefox, is blocking censorship circumvention add-ons for its browser, including ones developed specifically to help those in Russia bypass state censorship. https://theintercept.com/2024/06/12/mozilla-firefox-russia-censorship-blocked/
@MartinBe @ThePlant This is happening right now directly before our eyes. Is there anything more than we can add to the topic? Because after seeing what Mozilla did I don't think there's anything left. #Mozilla has just left the building of trusted companies at its own request. For me it is very simple now. As one of my life rules say: "You cheat or lie to me once, you have nothing more to look for with me ever". Same occurs for companies, foundations and their products, services etc. That's it.
@MartinaNeumayer @ThePlant I wonder how many more similar examples we need to understand gravity, importance of the situation? We already did had plenty of them in the past where some stupid decisions and moves of one person/dev literally fuc*ed up thousands if not millions of people. So, what in the devil we want more?! That this shit happens one day like an "digital judgment day"? đ€ I don't truly know what people are still wanting for?
PictoPulse356@ThePlant In my opinion, Firefox is the best
@PictoPulse356 @ThePlant Sadly not anymore.
Kevin Rothrock (@[email protected])
At the request of Russiaâs federal censor, the Mozilla Foundation, the entity behind Firefox, is blocking censorship circumvention add-ons for its browser, including ones developed specifically to help those in Russia bypass state censorship. https://theintercept.com/2024/06/12/mozilla-firefox-russia-censorship-blocked/
@PictoPulse356 @ThePlant Yeap.. I was shocked and scared as heck by reading this article today morning. As well as the entire community around this browser. It is a very heavy shot in the own knees for Mozilla.
@PictoPulse356 @ThePlant Same here. I migrated to FF from Chromium few years ago due to the entire google bullshit what they are doing. I just wanted to have nothing absolutely common with that company. You know, degoogled myself totally. The only reasonable choice at the point was FF. But now I am not sure anymore about the Mozilla being trustworthy as the foundation, and/or browser creator. As I told already to my wife, one simple click and they can do with FF users completely what they want.
@PictoPulse356 @ThePlant The main problem is that they are also google code based ones. The browser name can differ but under the hood that's still google owned and designed code. They can do exact same as Mozilla did. This is the most important issue here in the whole topic. Control on the browser engine and its code. No one should be able to push some "control kill switch" on and have total control on the browser and its engine. Such important apps/code should be only/always community owned.
MarkAssPandi@ThePlant Bit controversial opinion but for a very non tech knowledgable people I think Brave is a fine option
I know about all shitty things, but I also know that by default firefox might not be the most privacy friendly option, you do have to set it up to make it like this.
I am still big Firefox fan and I prefer it way more over whatever else, but by default Brave might be good for some people that just lack tech skills but want better privacy.
I hate brave but we should not target ppl using it imo. (Also promoting Vivaldi lol)
I rly wish it were that easy to just promote firefox and be done with it but truth be told, browsers landscape is meeesssyyy asf, and answers to problems are not binary sadly
With all that said I still love Firefox and hate Brave bye
I know about all shitty things, but I also know that by default firefox might not be the most privacy friendly option, you do have to set it up to make it like this.
I am still big Firefox fan and I prefer it way more over whatever else, but by default Brave might be good for some people that just lack tech skills but want better privacy.
I hate brave but we should not target ppl using it imo. (Also promoting Vivaldi lol)
I rly wish it were that easy to just promote firefox and be done with it but truth be told, browsers landscape is meeesssyyy asf, and answers to problems are not binary sadly
With all that said I still love Firefox and hate Brave bye
@ThePlant btw I don't mean this as a fight or anything I really don't want to like make this seem like I want to poke or something, I just wanted to state this, I hope no hard feelings or anything
Kaito@ThePlant whatever Chromium fork it is, if it autoplays YouTube, it is Google-pandering
t3kg33k@ThePlant uninstalled
Manuel Abeledo@ThePlant "Brave Software [...], was founded by Brendan Eich. He's best known as the creator of JavaScript"
Yup, straight to the garbage bin.
refraction 
@ThePlant unfortunately my mom's computer guy installed that for her and I can't really talk her out of it.
abnegating@ThePlant using any chromium browser is a red flag anyway. firefox FTW
@abnegating @ThePlant If you are looking for secure and privacy-friendly browsers, I would like to refer you to this series of articles - it is in German, but there are translators.
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/sichere-und-datenschutzfreundliche-browser-meine-empfehlungen-teil-1/
locse@ThePlant
You don't have to use the crypto stuff if you don't want to;
You don't have to use AI if you don't want to;
You don't have to use its search, or Google's;
You can change the settings to satisfy your needs;
You can install any chromium- based extension, including uBlock Origin;
You can hate the person who created the browser and still take advantage of their work;
You can stop being a baby.
Jamie Knight
RiQuY (Ricardo-Stryki)@ThePlant check the red info panel below Mull https://www.privacyguides.org/en/mobile-browsers/#mull
Netux- Brendan Eich's political views have nothing to do with the Brave browser.
- Crypto things are disabled by default and only used by people who want them.
- Rewarded ads are disabled by default and only people who want them can use them.
- Out of the box, Brave is much more private and secure than Firefox.
- Brave's only problem is that it indirectly supports the monopoly position of Chromium's visualization engine.
- Stop influencing people's choices by making nonsense!
@staple992 @ThePlant If you are looking for secure and privacy-friendly browsers, I would like to refer you to this series of articles - it is in German, but there are translators.
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/sichere-und-datenschutzfreundliche-browser-meine-empfehlungen-teil-1/
@kuketzblog @ThePlant I read the article, it was too long. In summary, Tor or Mullvad for serious security, Brave or Firefox for casual work. Others either receive security updates late or are not suitable for the daily user. Most importantly: privacy is a habit, not a product or an on-and-off option.
@ThePlant If you are looking for secure and privacy-friendly browsers, I would like to refer you to this series of articles - it is in German, but there are translators.
https://www.kuketz-blog.de/sichere-und-datenschutzfreundliche-browser-meine-empfehlungen-teil-1/
Carlos SolĂs@ThePlant Or Opera GX, for that matter.
Yaqub. M@ThePlant been there, reinstalled firefox
Glenn@ThePlant I know! Right? The creator also created JavaScript. Die! Die! Die!
Linh Pham@ThePlant Thankfully, enough bells went off when I looked into Brave before trying it out a while back. Now using Firefox as my primary on Linux (Safari is still my primary on macOS, but have Firefox installed for devtesting) and Vivaldi if I need a Chromium-based browser to test.
UGC (Ungoogled Chromium) is also an option that I'm looking at for testing stuff.
Irina@ThePlant Goodness, it's even worse than I already thought.
Joshua HĂŒrzeler@ThePlant Do you know a great iOS alternative with working a block on Youtube? Firefox on iOS not supports plugins like unlock and on safe I the plugin I used not working anymore.
Ambient Sponge@ThePlant It always seemed sketchy to me.
Eter (ÂŽ= Ì«=`) đđ@ThePlant I don't like all this crypto stuff in Brave as well, but it's way better then using Chrome, also you're able to disable some stuff.
I do use feature to install websites as apps (e.g. for matrix clients).
but anyway, my main browser is Firefox (hardened with user.js)
I do use feature to install websites as apps (e.g. for matrix clients).
but anyway, my main browser is Firefox (hardened with user.js)
Draconic NEO
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Lu (Vex0) 
@ThePlant
thanks for the headsup
thanks for the headsup
Jessica Cheeri@ThePlant Ah, my instincts on that one were right. It always looked like one of those "conservative alternative to..." products, so I'm not too surprised to see who was involved
Kevin Karhan 