It seems silly but mastodon’s retreat from the language of “toots” and now even “boosts” ( they’re “reblogs” in the official app now ) is exactly the same dumb-as-rocks discarding of a recognizable brand that Xitter is doing
Hbomberguy came up with “toot” and millions more people have seen his _four hour long_ monologue about plagiarism than have ever had a mastodon account, just think about that for a minute
@glyph real?
@tang0008 @glyph
I call BS. This screenshot is from the official app (iOS).
Also, I’m siding with the “toots and tweets are fun, but they are posts”-crowd.
@glyph don’t forget about the camera being completely out of focus for the entire four hours
@glyph nooooo they can't take my boosts!!
@ehashman normally I have no patience for Eugen truthers but this guy really did somehow think “you know what is a good social media site? The place we should emulate, that is experiencing success? The one that coined ‘reblog’”

@glyph @ehashman I wonder if the idea is to realign them with a future quote post feature?

"boost" is a reasonable description if someone is just increasing exposure of a post as is. If you want a word that also covers cases where you add context, maybe it isn't so appropriate.

Still, "reblog" sounds weird if nothing else in the UI is called a "blog".

@jamesh @glyph @ehashman Exactly. I've long thought that each way of reacting to a post should have its own short verb.

https://hachyderm.io/@pevohr/109683382939157689

Quotes, boosts, + replies are all peers. None should be secondary to the others.

Or is that not German enough?

Paul Rohr (@[email protected])

@[email protected] Bingo. All five fundamental reactions to posts are now peers: - reply - boost - quote - favorite - bookmark Five verbs with simple names + icons. Nailed it!

Hachyderm.io
@ehashman @glyph come on in to phanpy, the water is quite nice
@glyph In principle, I would normally agree with you. But, personally, I find the whole “toots” thing objectionable. It actually kept me from being an early adopter of Mastodon. Fart humor. Genteel euphemisms. Bleh! The worst. “Posts” is accurate and portable. In a federated universe, using widely accepted terms across multiple platforms makes sense; calling federated posts “toots” if they originate on a Mastodon instance seems kind of limiting, given the wider context. JMO YMMV
@zeldman @glyph A toot is an attempt to translate Tröt, which is the noise an elephant makes, and both echo "tweet". I very much doubt any allusion to flatulence was in people's minds …
@glyph
Maybe a minority opinion here: I do not think there was *nearly* as much brand equity in #toots as there was in #tweets.

@paninid @glyph Yeah I always thought “toot” was cringe and refuse to use it.

They’re trying to call them “skeets” over on bluesky and that ain’t happening for me either.

@paninid don’t quote me on this but I think elon *might* have more money than eugen, too
@glyph
I mean, you’re not wrong 🤷🏻‍♂️
@glyph I propose that they be renamed “poots.”

@glyph Toots always sounded juvenile to me and I just called them posts.

There was nothing wrong with boosts.

@glyph I am new to Mastodon so never heard of toots before. It's not nearly as recognizable as tweets. I like the term boost, not so sure about toots, it does sound kind of silly.

@glyph I don't mind the retreat from toots - but I don't like adopting "reblog".

Toots can live on as community terminology. If enough people take up its use, maybe it can even rise to prominence.

But on the other hand, Reblog ... already belongs to a different community. And should be left alone.

IMHO.

@glyph it's like the nonprofit version of enshittification, with clout instead of capital (and inevitably capital, since it's clout with capitalists)
@glyph Everything still "fine" on my instance. Never actually liked the term "toot" ("tröt" in german, so silly), but boost sounds cool imo. Post and repost seems to be more professional, so yeah...not as personal like before.
@glyph 'post' should be a verb anyway, unless it is a fence post. What am I posting? #grammar #grammaticalisationalism
@glyph reblogs? What?? But they're not even blogs!!

@badrihippo @glyph

Exactly. But the developers refer to Mastodon as a microblogging service so they think everyone else uses these terms. They're wrong, but... (shrugs)

@badrihippo @glyph well if one wants to be pedantic, Mastodon is a federated microblogging platform, so they are microblogs. But remicroblogging doesn't exactly roll of the tongue.

(But do bring toot back please.)

@glyph

I told Eugen that boost was better than reblog, because most people don't know the term microblogging. He replied that boost was worse because people associated boost with stealing cars (???).

@FediThing @glyph

This is exactly why Rockstar has been slowly backing off the whole "car stealing" branding of GTA and focusing on other aspects of the game, they are just losing money hand over fist because consumers just hate the idea of stealing cars and are upset to even be associated with it.

@Alonealastalovedalongthe @glyph

But, that's still not what most people think about when they hear the word "boost"?

@FediThing @glyph

Yeah I think video games are pervasive enough now that for most people "boost" conjures up images of mario kart tracks and the glowy boost pads on the ground that make you go fast.

I feel like if around where I live you did throw "boost" around in the context of cars people mighttt understand but it isn't a common phrasing at all.

@Alonealastalovedalongthe @FediThing @glyph they're not losing money 'hand over fist' on one of the most successful games of all time lmao
@Ember @Alonealastalovedalongthe @FediThing (I am pretty sure that was a sarcastic joke)

@glyph @Ember @FediThing

yes, sorry I should have put a /s

@Alonealastalovedalongthe @glyph @Ember

Sorry, my own fault for taking it a bit too seriously 😁

@FediThing @glyph @Ember

Thank you for your apology, the problem is that I am not very funny so I don't want people to miss my sarcasm and then be wasting precious joke-potential, so really it is on me if I make a joke that somebody misinterprets as serious.

Also, /s I am *hilarious*......

@FediThing @glyph I use “Share” with Owncast. “X shared Y with Z”. It’s always felt like a pretty clear way to describe it.
@glyph
Toot toot, boost boost. Here we all are tooty-toot tooting and boosty-boost boosting. Toot toot!
@glyph I use toot/post pretty interchangeably but don't feel overly strongly about having toot be the "official" term. More something that us Masto OG's can use. As for "reblog”, I hate it. Boost makes infinitely more sense given what you are actually doing. Grrr…
@glyph @tamitha agreed on all fronts - good thing the official app is so far behind any of the other native clients that no-one can really use it.
@glyph On the other hand, it's also because the Fediverse is not just Mastodon, and it's time people understand that. Dropping "toot" is a step in that direction, I believe.

See, right now, I'm not on Mastodon, so what should I call this reply as it's definitely not a "toot"? Should every platform have its own lingo, and everything becomes even more confusing for newcomers as if it's confusing enough already?
@glyph Sure. On the other hand it's less annoying for anyone who is not using Mastodon. Now the language is pretty similar between fedi servers/apps.