Reddit is threatening to remove me and the other moderators of r/shortcuts unless we reopen the community, half of which are the original team at Workflow.
The language really boils down to “who among you will be a scab?”

@matthewcassinelli time to just delete r/shortcuts I guess 🤷🏼‍♂️ /s

That they don't understand that the quality of moderators (who are doing free labor) correlates directly with the quality of a subreddit's curation and content is just astounding to me.

@matthewcassinelli Probably want to collect scab names for a CEO shortlist to replace Steve is canned…
@matthewcassinelli only permit john oliver shortcuts?
@samhenrigold @matthewcassinelli only shortcuts that open John Oliver videos.
@matthewcassinelli sexy john oliver themed shortcuts only
@BenRiceM @matthewcassinelli How do I make a shortcut to send sexy John Oliver pic to a random Reddit exec every twenty minutes?
@BenRiceM @matthewcassinelli Yes, and mark the subreddit as NSFW, even though it isn’t. That way they can’t advertise in your subreddit.

@pindakaas @BenRiceM @matthewcassinelli That is a big no go.

Make it really NSFW.

Only shortcuts to NSFW John Oliver videos.

@matthewcassinelli How long did it take to go from “waaa! The developer is ‘threatening’ us” to “let’s go threaten the mods”

cc @christianselig

@matthewcassinelli What amazingly chickenshit language. If you’re going to boot folks unless they reopen have the guts to just admit it.
@matthewcassinelli Indeed. Yet, we aren’t going out without a fight.
@matthewcassinelli Old fart’s view: Reddit is just a glorified bulletin board that I used in the ‘70s. Can’t we dump them and move elsewhere 🤷‍♂️ Probably being a bit silver simplistic!
@ashpole Really no reason it can’t be done outside of worries about splitting the community/user base. I’ve heard of one or two other communities swapping to either Lemmy/kbin or a traditional forum, and I’ve made the switch on a personal level.
@matthewcassinelli reddit's view of "working with" people is basically "we tell you what to do and you do it"
@matthewcassinelli One good option for malicious compliance would be to rededicate the sub to Robert Altman’s “Short Cuts” and delete all posts not about the film. https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0108122/
Short Cuts (1993) ⭐ 7.6 | Comedy, Drama

3h 8m | R

IMDb
@fedward @matthewcassinelli Please do this. If the amazing resource that is r/Shortcuts goes down, it should go down like an earthquake that upends a bunch of Angelenos lives.
@matthewcassinelli Only allow debates about what is or is not a soup @AriX
@SamTheGeek @matthewcassinelli @AriX Should focus on shortcuts when making soup…canned beans vs. dried, pre-cut mirepoix vs. all the chopping, bouillon cubes vs. boxed stock.
@tylerstone easy 1. Dry, minimum 24 hours soaked in water. Rinse well. 2. Fresh cut mirepoix, size and type of cut appropriately for intended soup. 3. You should really make your own stock from bones that still contain marrow. Or vegetable stock from scraps. But, none of these are shortcuts. So here is the shortcut versions from a previous professional: 1. Canned. 2. Frozen. 3. Bouillon. To thicken, use a corn starch slurry instead of a traditional flour & butter roux.

@matthewcassinelli @dmoren

> The ability to find and make these connections is incredibly important to ensuring…

…we get paid while you get nothing.

@matthewcassinelli John Oliver memes are too mainstream. Why not only permit Bee Movie related Shortcuts?
@maxwellbaum @matthewcassinelli Because that subreddit would prove hexagons are the bestagons.
@matthewcassinelli @dmoren so corporate America is just a bunch of infantile crybabies throwing tantrums over valuation? Thanks Elon.
@matthewcassinelli Pssh, yeah! What do you know about Shortcuts, anyway? 😛
@christianselig I wish there was some other source of information, support, entertainment, and finding connections around Shortcuts
@matthewcassinelli @christianselig bring back Ping but in the shortcuts app

@matthewcassinelli @christianselig For what it’s worth, I do have a Lemmy community for Shortcuts over on Lemmy.world.

https://lemmy.world/c/shortcuts

Shortcuts - Lemmy.world

Community dedicated to Apple Shortcuts.

@matthewcassinelli have communities like yours considered archiving the content and porting it to a community discussion / blog that is hosted on your website? I fear the future considering reddit is essentially forcing tech owners/devs out of their own, dedicated subreddits that yall have built from the ground up with your users. Aside from being a completely upside-down insane move by (f)u/spez, it feels nearly extra-legal from a copyright law perspective….

@matthewcassinelli

just turn it into NSWF and tell people to go to lemmy/kbin.

@matthewcassinelli Nuclear option - but is it possible to archive a subreddit's data to bring back in the future, and then delete/close the subreddit?
@matthewcassinelli I figure Huffman will try some ham-handed LLM kludge to replace existing human moderators who insist on being both human and moderators. Get your Steve Buscemi “Hello fellow kids” gifs ready to deploy.
@aethervision @matthewcassinelli agreed I think that’s next. AI moderation. It’ll work, for awhile. The community is creative. 😃🥳
@matthewcassinelli would you consider sending this to a news site like 9to5 Mac or MacStories and let them run with it. Getting it out there that this is how they are positioning themselves (oh, your closing your subreddit, can we help you move it elsewhere) is insane. It’s clear they no longer care are strictly about the bottom $$. This would add more evidence that /u/spez is a liar, and conniving.

@matthewcassinelli wow total mafia…

>nice subreddit you got there… it would be a shame if something happened to it…

@matthewcassinelli likewise. Do you guys have a reopening plan or are you waiting it out to see if they follow through with mod demotion/removal?

@matthewcassinelli You should work with them in the same way that they “work with" Independent Developers

Tried to pull a twitter, but didn't consider that Reddit is basically run by a group of volunteers that they don't control. Nice going 👍

#IndieDev

@matthewcassinelli Looking forward to all the John-Oliver-related shortcuts! Here’s my submission. It plays an audio clip of him saying “holy shit”. https://www.icloud.com/shortcuts/beb6eacb3ffe488995fb978b00f8718b
Shortcuts

@matthewcassinelli only permit John Oliver posts, like many other subreddits have done.
@matthewcassinelli Only permit shortcuts to NSFW John Oliver videos? And let your users vote on it.

@matthewcassinelli @joesteel
Fixed it:
“We are aware you are taking actions in support of your community, using the authority you took when took on the moderation work with it. After all, you can’t moderate without the power to moderate.

However, we are now working against the interests of your community and so your actions are against our interests. We decouple the work you’ve done and take full credit for it and so now are questioning your authority.

We realise you add tremendous value but won’t frame it that way, instead we’ll give you a chance to return to your previous, effectively surrendering.

We wish you to please consider yourself lucky that we exist as we bring so much value to you and not think that it’s definitively the other way around.

We have forgotten that we are the forum that got lucky to become THE forum and are entirely replaceable, unlike your unique content.

Please enable the CEO’s delusions.”

@matthewcassinelli @iBanks +1 for NSFW rating (for profanity) and discussing the movie “Short Cuts” (while also starting another community for What’s Next)
@letsroll @matthewcassinelli That was a thought but Reddit has decided to retaliate on those subs that has set their subs to NSFW so we are trying to figure some things out as we speak.
@matthewcassinelli how dare they refer to the benefit of the community when they change the API and increase charges for some in the Reddit community. What’s next? Blue labels?
@matthewcassinelli I’m trying to track down if a a new r/Shortcuts home has been found or is it still in limbo? I heard something about a Discord server but can’t find details

@kyle_ We’re reopening it read-only tomorrow, no other updates yet.

The Discord link is available on the description of the subreddit