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Anil DashOkay, Mastodon friends, I rarely ask for amplification about my day job, but I personally pushed for my employer to make a big investment in enabling the fediverse, and I'd love for everyone to show that the support is appreciated. On June 28, you can join us for a (FREE!) hands-on conversation about how the Fastly team worked to support @Mastodon while the service was under a *massive* DDOS attack. Everyone who cares about scaling the fediverse should join: https://learn.fastly.com/security-mitigating-ddos-and-traffic-surges-with-mastodon @devs
Tyler Mumford@anildash I started to sign up, but the form gives me “corporate sales” vibes, and I try to avoid those. 🤷♂️ I hope it’s a good webinar.
@tylermumford yeah, fair. The actual event is not that, but have definitely shared with the team that the signup form isn't really the energy that this community goes for.
Dym Sohin@anildash @tylermumford i feel like a simple peertube video url to repost/like/bookmark would be a way simpler and directer way to connect with a community
@dym @tylermumford maybe in the future! The marketing team at most publicly-traded companies are not generally going to prioritize that over systems they’re familiar with, though I hope platforms like peertube become part of that toolkit over time.
Jeremy Burge@anildash a boost in return seems like the least we can do
James Dreben 
@anildash I definitely want to hear about this. I'm deeply concerned with centralizing in order to scale.
My question going into this is, how can Fastly or anyone protect from DDOS without centralizing, and thus weakening the federated nature of the network?
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Markus 👨💻@yowtfbecool @anildash @Mastodon @devs Why not? The best decentralized example is email. Everyone uses it, no matter how big.
@markusr @anildash @Mastodon @devs gmail is no more decentralized than facebook.
privacy concerns have as much to do w/ who has access to data as they do w/ how it's stored and how much, how it's protected and what the paper trail looks like. for comparison, take VPNs. what are the criteria for a good one?
public companies care about the end-user until it makes financial sense not to, which is usually right before they sell. a cloud company's main asset is data. fool me once...
Nate M@yowtfbecool @markusr @anildash @Mastodon @devs Not Gmail. Email. You're part of the problem. Email is not Gmail. You can sign up to any email service and still interact with another. There's other services like mailbox.org, fastmail, etc
@natemtn @markusr @anildash @Mastodon @devs gmail is google, facebook is meta, fastly is fastly. u missed the point. probably my fault. character limits.
e-mail can contact e-mail, so why choose proton over yahoo? the service providers are not decentralized. i guess one could use Tor, but a multilayered approach would be prudent, if not preferable. Tor into a decentralized, privacy-focused social media service that doesn't deal with publicly-traded data companies. 👍❤️
Jason
OpenDNA⚙️@yowtfbecool @anildash @Mastodon @devs I don't see why it would be incompatible without a lot of effort.
A cloud infra company thrives with many successful subscribers and chokes when they're big enough to run their own infrastructure (i.e. Facebook doesn’t need Fastly). Privacy invasion comes from an ad-based revenue model when end-users need to be converted to revenue; cloud infra is B2B subscription model with neither incentive nor easy access to end-users.
@opendna @anildash @Mastodon @devs
you're right that they aren't necessarily incompatible. a major undertaking, but it will happen if there is a good opportunity there.
wrt ad-rev model: the data handled by cloud services will be of relative low quality. however, it won't be of zero value, meaning revenue potential exists. now, consider that a public company has a duty to generate returns f/ investors. what value ($$) represents an opportunity? see: the credit collections industry.
@yowtfbecool @anildash @Mastodon @devs You're right and I don't dispute your logic. Fastly trades on a certain ethic which precludes the behavior I think you're describing. It would be an exceptional bag which made betraying both customers and employees attractive to shareholders.
Unlikely but, as we saw with Twitter, not impossible.
Rob Bos@anildash @Mastodon @devs Good call. DDoS protection like this is exactly the kind of thing we'll need as it scales up. It'll be impossible to knock out the entire Fediverse, but individual servers are much more vulnerable. I don't need it for my own little server, but if I ever have to scale, I'm glad to have you guys on side.
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@anildash @[email protected] @devs hey not only does this sound really cool but it's actually a time that I can attend! Holy shit!
dmynerd78@anildash Will this be recorded and posted anywhere? I will be busy at that time, sadly :(
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Simon Kaluza@anildash @Mastodon @devs very cool! I’m hoping some of the Fastly team can help the new Lemmy instances coming to life during this Reddit exodus and getting slammed by new users (both malicious and legit) as well.
One of the beautiful aspects of it is that even though I’ve been unable to sign up at the most popular instances like @support and @lemmy, I was able to sign up at https://infosec.pub and continue posting/accessing them via federation.
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Christopher Mims@mimsical @Mastodon @devs yeah! I think about that a lot, we have this extraordinary and unlikely pile of absurdities that make the whole thing happen. Drop me a line to [email protected], would love to chat.
mirabilos@mirabilos @Mastodon I do know! which is why we need to provide tools for all those instances to scale, and information on how to do it.
Sharon McCarthy
Adam John@ienvision @anildash @Mastodon @devs
Woot! Sharon, thanks! Registration completed. Can't wait! fwiw @MrAdamJohn is where I follow security and other more technical topics, and I'm always open to connection and conversation there as well. Thank you all!
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Emelia 👸🏻@anildash it's in my calendar to be there!
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sayrer@anildash @Mastodon @devs FYI you can still buy the Bernie coat. I have it, and it is a great joy when some punk kid shouts “I am once again asking!" at me.
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