John SiracusaThis suuuuuucks. DPReview is a great website and YouTube channel—probably the best of its kind in the world. But I guess that doesn't matter to the bean counters. https://www.dpreview.com/news/5901145460/dpreview-com-to-close
Joseph Kohlmann@siracusa Useful, humanizing, generative things don’t matter. Fuck capitalism.
Chris Enns@siracusa It's criminal that the content will be removed when it would cost almost nothing just to leave it in read only mode for all the text.
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FreediverX@siracusa I saw that. Guess who owned them.
illuminator⚓️FranklinEx.@siracusa I’d pay a yearly subscription to keep accessing the Lens Feature Search tool alone.
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Pluralistic: How Monopoly Enshittified Amazon
Brian Warren@siracusa Daaaaang. Amazon's just on a streak of terrible decision making. What a loss.
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Karan J@siracusa oof. I hope the internet archive grabs the content before it's gone at the very least, there's a lot of deep information on there.
PG&E Delenda Est@siracusa if I were b&h I would be sprinting to linkedin to find all the editors and free up a corner of a warehouse
Jim Kofron@JimKofron @siracusa I still laugh at the woot.com people patiently waiting out their noncompetes and then immediately launching meh.com the day they expired.
Charlie Styr@siracusa wow. And no “archive” version staying online.
What’s a good process for downloading a copy of a whole website for yourself? ☹️ could avoid sample photos to save space… I’m sure there’ll be a lot/most on the internet archive but the site is a tool I use regularly, would like to not nail the wayback machine every time I want to check something DP related!
TrötifantI once used wget, a comman-line tool that allows to grab and save a lot of online material.
Marcelo Campiglia@siracusa I have feared this since 2007 when Amazon bought DPReview.
darkejon@siracusa hopefully the old owners/founders can buy back for almost nothing and maintain it as a smaller, more viable business (if they have any interest in doing so)🤞 its a valuable resource that has value still.
Antonio Yon@siracusa Oh wow, maybe someone will buy the IP from Amazon and bring it back?
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Noel Walling@siracusa God damn, this sucks.
Olivier Roux (moose)@siracusa I guess Amazon needed some spare cash to pay all these laid off employee severance packages…
The end of DPReview
yertle@siracusa 100% agree. Their articles and comparison tools were invaluable
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Stand up for 🏳️⚧️&🏳️🌈 rights@siracusa The site runs on AWS already. What would it cost for Amazon to leave it in a read-only mode? Peanuts. Amazon is terrible.
agi@siracusa nooooo
Doug Jones@siracusa Damn, I’ve consulted this site for every camera purchase in the digital era. I had absolutely no idea Amazon owns them!
Will Browar 👨🏻💻@siracusa such a major bummer. They’ve been my go to for literally every piece of DSLR and mirrorless gear I’ve bought over the years.
Andrew Burwell@siracusa I wonder if this isn't really just that cameras have become so good (both low end and cell phone cameras) that having a camera review site matters less and less to people. There are less standalone cameras being made, and less audience that cares for them.
Cutterpillow@siracusa yeah, DPReview is basically the authoritative history of digital cameras. Back when I worked on RAW camera support I could always use DPReview’s camera timeline to find cameras we didn’t support yet, whether they supported RAW or not, and often sample RAW images from many of them.
There’s just no replacement for what they’ve done over the years. That Amazon won’t commit to keeping the site around as a read-only resource is shameful.
Jeffery BattersbyYeah, that super sucks. Bought a couple of cameras based on their work.
bryan@siracusa absolutely. Every camera and lens purchase I’ve made has involved their reviews and community content. I can’t believe they’re just being shut down instead of spun off or sold.
Barry Parr@siracusa Thinking about Goodreads and IMDB today.
Jamie Billett@siracusa Unbelievable. Why did Amazon buy it if they are just going to shut it down? And why can’t it be spun off or sold?
Jari Pennanen@siracusa Yeah, I'm hoping their main creators can salvage it somehow. I always looked at their official reviews, not so much on community stuff, and the review team probably has still an itch to do reviews. It's just now owned by Amazon I believe an that is the biggest problem. Maybe the original team can assemble under a new name if Amazon is not giving it back...
British Tech Guru@siracusa Look at what's happened to the camera market. That has been decimated by smartphones. I do all my 4K youtube videos on my smartphone. I never grab my camera to take photos unless I am going somewhere specially to take photos. I just use my smartphone.
Compact cameras vanished first. Now look at see how many actual cameras and actual video cameras are sold in stores. Virtually none. Even the camera companies have been forced to admit that bigger sensors can't compete with convenience and have all made smaller cameras.
It is therefore entirely unsurprising that a forum aimed at selling cameras should vanish.
Dan Adams@siracusa Bummer.
Rob Nee@siracusa yeah. We've all lost something great here...🙁
Jared White (ResistanceNet ✊)@siracusa This is weirdly a sort of final straw for me. I'm definitely going to be curtailing my usage of Amazon going forward, after a far too long list of Really Bad missteps. This site is essentially the Wikipedia of pro photography (not to mention all the discussion boards), and I'm super sad it's going away…
DΛNIEL TʘMΛN@siracusa it seems like Internet Archive has saved many of the DPReview articles, but not all the forum posts.
Anyone who wants to help preserve the best forum posts (and any other unarchived pages) — browse the DPReview forums through web.archive.org. When you hit a page that isn’t archived yet, then click that Save button!
Anyone who wants to help preserve the best forum posts (and any other unarchived pages) — browse the DPReview forums through web.archive.org. When you hit a page that isn’t archived yet, then click that Save button!
Joan Combs Durso@econoprof @siracusa good question! maybe could start by searching for any discussions of camera models you own, or wish you did?
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HansvR@siracusa I occasionally worked together with the DpReview guys when I was still an editor.
This is a great loss.
xs4me2@siracusa Man, it does… :(
Tom Ritchford@siracusa That's really sad, but at least part of it has to be the collapse of the camera market. I am in the market for a good compact camera and for months this year, most of them have been unavailable, and the reason seems to be that production is low or stopped for many models.
Colin Skyba@siracusa Wholeheartedly agree. Is Amazon that selfish that wouldn’t gift/sell it to the current creative/tech team?
Kevin McMurphy 🤔@siracusa I audibly said “oh no!” When I read the news. What a massive shame.
Mike Torr@siracusa That's really bad news. Damn useful site!
Infobhan@siracusa Agree, but looks like Chris and Jordan are moving to https://petapixel.com
devolute@siracusa Places like this aren’t in Amazon’s best interest, not when you can get hIGh QuAlItY insight from their product review pages