STOP DOING THREADS

  • POSTS WERE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE SPLIT INTO 25 PARTS
  • YEARS of POSTING yet NO REAL-WORLD USE FOUND for a low character limit
  • Wanted a low character limit anyway for a laugh? We had a tool for that: It was called “SMS”
  • “My post got so long that I had to split it into 10 parts. Stay tuned for the 20 part sequel” - Statements dreamed up by the utterly Deranged

LOOK at what Mastodon Users have been demanding your Respect for all this time, with all the Fediverse and protocols WE built for them:
(This is REAL Posting, done by REAL Mastodon Users)

  • Why communism will win, a 🧵 (1/255)
  • Why I should be allowed to index all your posts for profit, a thread (1/X)
  • The rise and fall of Twitter (283/185,781)

“Hello, I would like a 500 character limit please”
They have played us for absolute fools

@starshine 5000 character limit or whatever the heck i want go brrrr

@starshine even SMS is decent though, I can send 10x SMS messages and it'll show up as 1

The 500 limit on most Mastodon servers isn't enough, especially if you want to write something long

@experiencersinternational yeah 500 is WAY too low n is only set bc website boy is desperate to copy twitter, evn th bad decisions

5000 or *at least* 3000 is a lot mre reasonable

tho tbh it shld be more like 100k or "as much as th average instance can handle", thres no reason fr lower limits rlly

@[email protected] @experiencersinternational

we won't add quote-boosting, stop asking. we aren't twitter and we aren't going to copy their whole platform overtrust me, it's imperative that we add an absurdly low limit to what you're allowed to express in one toot. if it's so bad, why does twitter do it?

@experiencersinternational @starshine this is a bad interface for *reading* typical long content, never mind for writing it. No headers, tables, inline images, italics, etc.
@DrHyde @starshine Italics is a feature on non Mastodon instances, such as Akkoma I believe
@starshine limit on my Akkoma instance is 2^64 symbols)
@starshine return to 69420 character limit
@tn5421  thats the character limit on our instance yes
@starshine 1024 character limit here, decent enough imo, though yeah sometimes might need more, but that's kinda rare
@starshine It’s better to write a blog post (I use Medium) and share the link wherever you like. It is far easier to read than a thread and will get indexed by search engines. Plus, you can easily make edits later to fix typos or add more context. Medium and other blog systems could add Fediverse support. Tumblr may have it already.

@brennansv @starshine

Agreed, I also prefer reading blogs instead of long threads (and I also use @medium). Mastodon does allow editing, though.

@funcrunch @starshine @medium It’s good that Mastodon allows editing for posts, but you cannot insert a post into a thread later like I could add a paragraph or inline quote on Medium. Depending on the content, I may want to go back and revise it and note that it has been updated at a certain point. If people are still arriving via search years later it is good to keep it useful.
@brennansv @starshine As we used to say in ye olden dayes, gyofb. I don't mean that in the sense of "you should leave this place," but in the sense that if you wish to post essays, post them on yofb.
@brennansv @starshine One thing I've encountered when seeing Medium posts is anxiety about whether reading it will use up one of my three monthly page views. #MeteredPaywall
@starshine


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@[email protected]@[email protected] well thats what my thing fixes and then creates a thousand problems because i just conected this hellhole to the fedi a few days ago


check this and this


this is tumblr inspired and stuff. I accept insults on the UI

Wafrn - Post by minecraft

Wafrn post by minecraft: the image file is getting taller…[wafrnmediaid="26066ea1-4502-493a-82cf-af3d80e465df"]

app.wafrn.net
@starshine What about having a blog, and linking to it, I think every time I see this.

@odd @starshine

I guess some people do write out entire essays and only then post them in threads. But if I'm writing out a thought in a multi-part thread, it's because I'm thinking as I go. I'm not trying to post a broken-up essay. But sure, if I get it together enough to genuinely compose something, a blog link would be in order. My seven or eight fans would *demand* that! ;)

@odd @starshine
Because more people might read your thread, as it is present in the app they are using right now, and less people might click this link, get out of the app, read this, and come back.

You're not surprised anymore about so many people write comments under news posts, and when you read it you understand they only read the initial message, not the article linked in the message.

@starshine Sorry, I like threads. You can do a toot, then extend the thought later. I can boost the thread head toot if I want share it, or direct people to a specific toot if it's relevant. I'd thread regardless of character limit.
I like responding to parts of a thread. Like the overall message, but want to query one element? Reply to that toot.
Mostly, I *really* like when someone says "Hi, here's my 1/n toot on radical cheese-making..." and I can dive in. If not, I can scroll on by... 🧵

@starshine

Mastodon is not a blogging platform, it is a microblogging platform and should be treated as such.

Anyone can run their own blog and there are other platforms on the Fediverse for longer posts, too

@starshine @chucker I couldn’t understand the second paragraph at all.
Stop Doing Math | Know Your Meme

Stop Doing Math refers to a parody infographic by meme creator Welcome To My Meme Page that suggests the reader stops doing math for a variety of nonsensic

Know Your Meme
@starshine i'm surprised that some people didn't make like a blogger account and just posted a link

@starshine fun fact, the whole point of micro logging was that it could be done via SMS, hence the original 140 character limit in Twitter.

Also fun fact, I'll keep posting threads because it actually helps me get the stuff out there instead of collecting dust waiting to be perfected and never published, and there's literally nothing you can do about that.

@starshine maybe i should nicely ask my instance admin for an increase
@starshine mastodon instance owners when they find out you can change the max character setting for your instance 🤯
@hayden @starshine you can???
@nebula @starshine you’ll notice ours is 5k chars instead of 500
@hayden @nebula @starshine how long until custom css on your profile page 👍
@starshine This is funny, well done, but a character limit is Good Actually.
@starshine long threads (like, 10+ posts) are indeed silly, just write a blog post. But there’s a lot to be said for the character limit forcing people to communicate concisely. So many blog posts are meandering waffle that could be cut in half if the author just got to the point quicker.
@starshine One of the things I've tried doing in recent times, is if I have something particularly long-winded to say, I'll write up a blog post. I'll then pick a quote & post a quick intro with the blog link.

@starshine
Well, Fediverse servers can be configured. Even the Mastodon server can have more than 500 characters in a single post.
This one, for example, has 5000.

The thing here is mostly why choose tools one doesn't like? Why stay on a server that limits you? Especially, without any reason.

@starshine does it count as a thread if its just an additional thing i realised i wanted to add after the fact?
@[email protected] i have to intentionally maxed out calckey limit
@starshine Write a blog post, share a link, job done. People still don’t understand Mastodon has no algorithm and doesn’t care if you link to an external website. The thing, too, is that people have been trained to think that social networks and likes are the only things that matter and that anything not on the platform is a waste of time. It will take a lot of work to get back to the golden era of the internet where they own the content if that’s even possible.

I feel like people forgot that blogs are a thing. There’s plenty of totally free and decent options for them too. Currently I’m liking Blogger, Wordpress dot com is another solid option or there’s self hosting.

If it’s more than 500 characters it’s a blog post!

That said a cat rescue I help with social media for frequently goes over 500 chars, so many our posts go to threads or 2-3, but never more and even that feels like pushing it.

@starshine @kkarhan I agree. #Fediverse threads are annoying. I suggest people use another platform (like #Misskey, #WriteFreely or even #WordPress with the #ActivityPub plugin installed) if they need to expand beyond their limit.
@darnell @starshine or they just use the  to link to these...
@[email protected] i saw someone advocating for threads as the best for discovery and reach because ppl can share quotable bites

but that is so twitter it physically hurts

@[email protected] you should check wafrn. It does the threads tumblr style, best thing possible in my opinion


#its-buggy-as-hell-tho

@starshine

Paragraphs are great over big /long chunks of text, but small chunklets of text in their own little boxes can help me concentrate and keep track of where I am/left off, not sure if that's everyone's experience.

That said if a thread gets too long then that's no good either, I grant you.

#Neurodivergent #Dyscalculia #WordLetterNumberAndSentenceProcessing #ADHD #SmallGlassHardToRead

@starshine People should just set up blogs
@starshine Twitter has legitimately been the worst thing to happen to the internet since Facebook