Thinking more people are going to engage with you on mainstream social media “because everyone’s there” is like thinking people at a stadium concert are there to listen to you. It‘s only true if you’re one of the ones on stage. Not so much when you’re huddled in the nosebleeds.

Forget the numbers. Forget about “going viral” (leave it to the psychopaths in Silicon Valley to make virus-like behaviour aspirational). Embrace the joy of interacting with one another on a human scale.

#ThinkSmall

@aral so true. This is one of the most common misconceptions about corporate social media.

@aral I totally hear what you're saying and agree wholeheartedly.

But as I reeducate my social media reflexes here, and revaluating my engagement on Twitter - I'm wondering whether it would be better to export new behaviours back into that world rather than turn away? Lots of internal conflict about this concept...

@yukinosaru You can’t export behaviours into that world. It’s a top-down, not bottom-up, world driven by venture capitalists chasing exponential growth and profits investing in the most extractive and exploitative means possible of obtaining them. It’s a corporate world of CEO kings where their word is law. That world is what it is. Not you nor anyone else can change it. It’s like asking factory farms to be kinder. They can’t. It’s their nature to be cruel. (All they can hope for is better PR.)
@aral yes, I hear and see that. But sadly it's not going away. It is top down but it is we are also still the content. And in many ways its a mirror to the duality of mankind.
So the question I'm asking myself is to walk away, keep your hands clean and hope it dies. Or. Infiltrate, poison the data pool, switch the dynamic up?
Perhaps I'm just hopelessly naive here but is there no hope in the kinder human nature?
@yukinosaru @aral I have great hope in a kinder human nature, both because it is the only way we will survive and because our own society shows a halting and uneven evolution in that direction. But the many people who feel they benefit from the current systems of power and privilege are not going to change and they are going to fight changes to the systems they depend on. Unlike our planet, we can leave the world of Twitter to create a better one.

@yukinosaru I mean, by all means if you want to infiltrate/sabotage that system, go for it. Sabotage is the only legitimate means of changing such a system from the inside (but I’m not necessarily convinced of its long-term effectiveness).

Personally, I prefer to create. To work on alternatives. To try and help build the kind of world I want to live in.

I’ve railed against that system long enough and let me tell you, it’s a soul-destroying affair. I still call it out but my focus is creating.

@aral @yukinosaru Beautifully said, Aral. Yes, there is much value in creating indeed.

@aral I'm not really advocating for sabotage, I've muddled two thought streams there. My main point is that I do find that there is still value there and I'm questioning whether and how my own behaviour has contributed to the toxicity and how I might do things differently.

I too believe that creation is the better choice and I've also tried to build and live the world that I want to see, although in a different domain. Interrogating my own instincts and behaviours is part of my growth journey.

@aral @yukinosaru agreed - trying to change a broken system from within generally sees the idealists who go into it with that aim (to justify the pangs of conscience felt when taking such highly remunerated roles) ground down & recast as a rationalising apologist, redefining 'good' so that it includes them and their behaviour. Extreme cognitive dissonance. I've seen it many times over the last 20 years. The system sabotages idealists with far greater certainty than idealists sabotage the system.

@aral @yukinosaru

Wow the Give Up religion is strong with this one.

Like speeches by women telling women not to make speeches, I wonder how the Give Up caucus gets out of bed long enough to tell others to give up.

I think it might be the money.

@aral @yukinosaru I feel you but candidly most don’t give a sh*t.

@aral

At 4am in NYC I wake up to catch the early bus. When I'd look at twitter at that hour it was totally filled with all these students and scientists and nurses from Nigeria-- They are already at work and in class and taking about the news, papers, jokes. And I made friends that way too. I learned new things.

That's the power of a network with 100s of millions of people.

@futurebird @aral yep. I've made lots of friends on Twitter and Facebook -- and reconnected with old acquaintances as well. There are plenty of good critiques of Twitter, FB, and surveillance capitalism-based social networks ... but this is not one.

@futurebird @aral yeah I have Twitter connections in Nigeria, iNaturalist connections in Australia, and Facebook connections in remote areas of Colombia and Peru. LinkedIn has let me connect with corporate leaders in Chile and El Salvador. Corporate social media is bad on many ways but it's also a miracle.

Maybe your job doesn't require constant global outreach. But don't preach at me about thinking small.

@stevenbodzin No one’s preaching at you, Steven. You’re doing the online equivalent of coming into my home (my mentions, on my instance) and telling me to shut up.

I can speak my mind on my own fediverse instance as I like. If you don’t want to hear what I’ve got to say, don’t follow me, mute me, block me, or block my whole instance if that makes you feel better.

The day I come into your mentions and start telling you what you can or cannot do then you can accuse me of preaching.

@futurebird

@yukinosaru @aral

The main purpose of the fediverse is decentralization and unentanglement of paying a service with your self-determination.
It's the commitment to a standard protocol like SMS or E-Mail - rather than centralized enclosures not just an entire country but the world has to rely on.
The fediverse doesn't guarantee you quality of life or security but ensures and enables control, competition, and flexibility with the right balance of social accountability.

@ekes @yukinosaru @aral
IMHO it is the decentralized nature and (perhaps more important) it’s lack of an algorithm tuned to promote strife and argument for the view counts.
If you disagree with how your moderators are moderating (😈) you can change servers. There is no way to change the algorythms. I’m wierd though in that I subscribe to the “keep your enemies closer” theory. I’m keeping my bird account open. Sometimes it has more recent news.

@PensiveTM @yukinosaru @aral
Nothing stands against an instance offering additional, payed analytical and processing services, though.

The key is you can leave without giving up on your circle and other instances can block them if they misbehave.

@yukinosaru @aral Most people still are on Twitter and now Mastadon, Post, Tribel etc.
@aral Hear hear. Now we need design to embed these differences onto the small scale social media, get rid of performance metrics, funnels, drips.
@heracles @aral I guess that this is a dilemma for every writer (or content creator). Either they choose to write what they think or they choose what their readers like to hear (or read). Getting rid of "performance" metrics (as you suggest) is one way forward to help those who prefer the former. But disabling them will also play an important role in avoiding "going viral".
@aral it’s been more emotionally fulfilling to have real conversations with people. I still miss the dopamine hits from a popular post, but who doesn’t like a sudden rush? This is more sustaining over the long run, though.
@aral
I still can't understand why people care about number of followers (ok, on Twitch abd YT this can give you money - fine). I'm happy as I followed cool people and now my feed is cool too.
Quality over quantity
@aral
Yes, and to this end, see my reply just now to this https://mastodon.online/@gabipurcaru/109546719167140883
Gabi Purcaru (@[email protected])

I recently joined Mastodon, and I found it jarring that it has very few discoverability features. So I’ve built this little tool to help build connections with people: https://followgraph.vercel.app/ Check it out! #mastodon #discovery #discoverability #fediverse

Mastodon
@aral so true! What matters here is that we are a community that are talking and listening to each other. And everyone of us matters….☺️🙏
@aral surely the point of social media is to be social. I post for interaction not popularity.
@aral Agreed. I've had more valuable conversations and interaction here in a couple of months than I had over years at the birdsite.
@gozzy @aral It's surprising that a website with similar features supports more interactions than the other. (also speaking from my personal experience)

@aral

The "engage with influencers" mindset has led to a copious flow of gratuitous pandering. I gave up on the other sites because it was too painful to watch.

@aral I had this idea but was loking for this analogy since long. Popular social media like Twitter or Instagram just makes me wanna share lesser. Also a very opposite example, reddit.
@aral And things can still go "viral" on the fediverse - just in the way that term actually suggests: They spread from person to person through social interaction, not through an algorithm suggesting posts. You know, like viruses do?
@aral "In the seating area very high up in a stadium or theater, as for a sporting event, musical performance, play, etc., which typically costs less money but has a restricted view. "Nosebleed" refers jocularly to one effect of extremely high altitudes on the body, nasal hemorrhaging."
@aral I am agree with you
@aral 😄 he says with 31k followers

@Irisherself I was as happy with a handful here in 2016. (And equally fine with leaving the 42K+ “followers” I had when I closed the hell-site account.) The number here ballooned up quite a bit during the migration. Was far less for the majority of the last six years.

In fact, I’d be very happy if Mastodon hid the numbers altogether. I think that would be a positive. I’ve already hidden by follower/following lists but I can’t hide the numbers.

@aral it wasn't a pick on you, I just had to giggle a bit :D I too left a large crowd behind at the bird place (did not redirect anyone), and even left another instance here which turned a bit foul... I agree the social aspect is about the connections you make, in the moment, and diversify your impressions and interactions... let's just all chat with each other and no one will feel left behind <3 
@aral @Irisherself and I’m at least two or three of those followers, what with being active on multiple instances.

The numbers are even more meaningless here than they are on the big centralized platforms.
@aral Well said during the 80's with bbs we only cared about building relationships and creating solutions to problems, now its all ego centric based.
@aral The difference is that people eventually come out of a stadium and you can distribute flyers to them on the public street. The walled gardens are careful to not let anyone out.
@aral Going with this metaphor, most people would prefer to listen in a smaller venue. I prefer to listen at home. 😏
@aral Exactly. Well put. It took me some time to figure out that I mostly enjoy the company of other people in small numbers. I shine in 1on1 conversations. I suck in groups. I am fine with this by now.
@aral
I responded to a Toot last night, and the end result was insane - loafs of follows, loads of faves, loads of boosts...
Loads of stress as well, wondering if those people were going to expect all my posts to be that insightful.
@aral totally agree on this. I’ve been on Mastondon for a few weeks and had actual real interactions. Not interactions for the sake of follows or not replies like birdsite or what Instagram turned into. So much better.

@aral Somehow this rings true with my impression of Native American values before the Eurasians came.

They abandoned empire after empire to live small. Each time they improved their administrative & power systems of power a bit so the next empire wouldn’t be able to create so much warfare or amass as much power.

(This was achieved through legends, tales of the birth of the people, and art, as they didn’t write.)

@aral Also though. We need to still acknowledge the bad actors are touching at something primal in the human psyche.

The will to power will always be there.

But if that will has creative outlets that do good instead of bad, then we can be more secure as community.

Leaders being able to use their power to amass more power is the critical point. Mechanisms to throttle this are paramount.

Ceremonial power is another option. Reduce the actual power, but let them have the illusion

@aral As the current article in my news section talks about, I wish personal blogging was still a thing, I'd love to connect with more people with similar interests more. Probably why I'm on reddit so much lol
@aral None of the funny or brilliant things I've tweeted over the years has ever made me go "viral." I got 7,000 likes on a comment once and never gained a single follower. It's better to make our social media presences about the people, places, and things that we love, our hobbies and interests, and the causes we believe in.
@aral Thank you for saying this. Forget the numbers!

@aral

This was my approach on Twitter when I was on it...engage one on one with people. Trying to convey an idea to just one person. It got hard when you kept realizing I could just be talking to a bot...

@aral yes yes. I for one, am here for the social. To talk of my day, my daily doin's n thoughts n feelins and chatting with others about theirs.
Not for news for sure. Y'all never heard of news aggregates?
Nor to stroll through a flee market of people hawking there various "wares".
Come on folks. Be people, be human and neighborly n just do more just chitchat.
Just saying...🤔
@aral this is exactly what is keeping people on Facebook and Twitter.
Personally I had to reach out to my phone company and my first thinking was to tweet by tagging to get attention and resolution for the problem.
@aral Despite not having many followers and not posting much I have had more interaction with different people on here than was happening on the bird site.

@aral Fitting that this post should be popular :)

I have nearly 10k followers between Facebook & Twitter, but finding it rewarding to discover my tribe, one by one (only 80 friends, here, so far)

#introduction #NewHere

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@aral I certainly agree with your opinion on "going viral", but I'm not sure about "thinking small" in general. Personally I couldn't care less about becoming some kind of online celebrity. No thanks. But I do want to engage with many people with shared interests worldwide. In that sense I'm "thinking big", and I would be happy as a small fish in a big pond.