@hacks4pancakes @evacide
From the time our kids were age 6 or so, not once did we enter their rooms without first knocking and waiting for an answer.

I can't understand parents who don't teach their kids by example that their most fundamental right is a right to privacy.

@hacks4pancakes @evacide installing monitoring software is basically the one thing I refuse to do for folks in the neighborhood.

None of them understand why.

The adults think I'm reckless & judging their parenting while the kids think I'm "trying to be cool".

It always comes down to education, doesn't it?

@hacks4pancakes @evacide I was at a school hosted event where parents wanted to know which spyware to use on their kids. Responded with:

A: if, and more likely when, the child discovers a parent installed spyware, the trust between parent and child will likely be irreparably harmed.

B: the day that the spyware company gets hacked, the parent has to take the responsibility for letting their child’s information fall into bad hands.

Still advocating this position.

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3) conducting reasonable, age-appropriate supervision (not "surveillance") which they also discuss with their children.

I believe that secret or hidden surveillance in the home undermines trust, normalizes surveillance by existing power structures, and generally violates fundamental ethical principles. 2/2

@myraccoonhands
I, too, plan to be restrictive but also a little clumsy in the beginning for the sole purpose of motivating them to outsmart me an bypass restrictions.

So far they have only managed to install #minetest mods that I had uninstalled before. And they have figured out that they both can play these "banned" mods when the one who has them installed hosts the server.

They got so excited and proud, they told me right away 😅
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@Scornflakegrrrl @evacide

I agree wholeheartedly. We have to empower our youth to make informed choices and feel safe enough to come to us with concerns. I've been working on building some digital literacy skills with my 8 year old and sitting alongside him showing him how to tell what are sponsored ads, flaws in algorithms, how to discern if a resource is credible, and we have talked about general online safety as well.

As a teen who started exploring the internet in the internet in the mid-90s, I definitely got into some unsavory stuff and learned some lessons, but I wish I would have learned some of the things I am teaching my son now. With all the cuts to school media centers and specialists, a lot of kids don't get much, if any, instruction on critical digital literacy skills.

@heydaave @evacide You don't "know" anything of the sort though, the history is trivially manipulated (they can start with incognito mode, which is easy enough to do they can find out about it on the school playground).

So you violate their privacy and gain nothing substantial. You'd be better off with an honest relationship with your kids, and you don't get there by snooping.

@hee_nalu @evacide I also strongly suggest writing passwords down on paper as an alternative to reusing passwords or trying to remember them.

For folks who have never learned any password hygiene, the cognitive overhead of using a password manager is absurdly high. Writing everything down and keeping it physically secure is a completely reasonable on-ramp to using a password manager and provides much better security than doing nothing at all.

Even using a password manager for everything (which I do), I still have master passphrases written down and locked up.

@hee_nalu @evacide in security context, depends on the threat.

As a teen, I would imagine the threat as a bully that tries to steal my account to harm me, or a parent / sibling that discovers it, even by accident, breaking my trust.

In both this situations, writing them down doesn't seem ideal to me, basically because the kid doesn't have full ownership of his space like an adult, so the piece of paper where it's written down could be vulnerable.