Mario Felaco
Lesley Carhart 
I have heard all of the arguments but if you're still active on twitter without a active presence on any other backup social networks, after the events of the last week, I mean, come on.
If you choose to read this toot as “Lesley is famous and isn’t losing anything from leaving Twitter - and is talking down to people who need it for community or business”, frankly, I’m losing a lot, you’re definitely misreading what I said, and you’re kind of an ass.
Evelyn 
@hacks4pancakes For real. We're all losing something.
Phil Burg (he/him)
Jeremy "Candyman" Thompson@hacks4pancakes could have saved time and just gone with that last little bit, 😀
RoyalHoeliness@hacks4pancakes yeah I don’t know how feasible it is to continue to be active over there. It sucks. We’re all losing community.
@RoyalHoeliness it’s awful and it’s impacting pretty much everyone who does self owned business, small business, or gigs.
Travis Newton 👨💻@hacks4pancakes @RoyalHoeliness It really is. I got a lot of my long-term clients from there. So watching it go down like this really hurts and it’s painful to leave it behind in this way.
iridescent_jstn@RoyalHoeliness @hacks4pancakes i couldn‘t agree more. This weekend in particular feels like a wake.
Catherine Kehl@hacks4pancakes I'm still on Twitter at all because I hate ceding ground, and it's a great place to be an ungovernable monkey.
And there are still good conversations there that aren't here.
But I've been plotting my exit for a while now.
Reinhard Lackner@hacks4pancakes so, just for grasping it better, did people build, at least, part of their business around being on Twitter or using it as their self-ad-platform?
@macf00bar absolutely! Me included.
Yargo@hacks4pancakes Well, fortunately I only got to know you on the tootsite, so in my particular and totally irrelevant case it's actually a double win. ^-^
By the way, thanks for all of your excellent posts (on the Don and the Web)! Which, I'm totally aware of, are unpaid work...
By the way, thanks for all of your excellent posts (on the Don and the Web)! Which, I'm totally aware of, are unpaid work...
spaf@hacks4pancakes
I'm lucky. I'm used to no one paying attention to me. Skipping away from Twitter is sad but not painful.
I realize that is not everyone else's experience, including you. That is unfortunate.
Even more unfortunate is the loss of jobs, pointers to resources (e.g., suicide prevention, peer support), and the encouragement given to scum (bigots, racists, etc.)
I really hope the Fediverse fills in on the positives.
So, from me to you, 😘 here, and best wishes for the holidays.
Kevin Thomas ✅@hacks4pancakes I can't even being to grasp what you are losing as I only have a fraction of the friends on Twitter but at the end of the day we support you no matter what.
N Likely ♞@hacks4pancakes RE: People who say stuff like this. You are aware some of us have started Star Fleet already and that in cases like this the Prime Directive can be reasonably applied?
Simon BitdiddleAt this point, having another social network presence is 'fire insurance'.
Phil Holmes@simon_bitdiddle @hacks4pancakes I think of it more as a bug-out bag.
I was more meaning in the theological sense but you have a valid point.
PadreSJThe great Twitter migration may be the time when we finally move Social Media way from single point-of-failure architecture.
demize@hacks4pancakes I’m doing what I can to get people off, whether it be to my instance or somewhere else… not many people interested anymore, it seems :/
Frosty ❄️🌨️@demize @hacks4pancakes a expressed my concerns to my friends and I actually had one reply that Twitter was, and I quote, "too big to die". It's as if once a company gets to a point where it has a large user/clientbase that it will never die out, even if that user and client base goes away.
@frostyfrog @hacks4pancakes Twitter probably was too big to die—until it was murdered.
A lot of people don’t understand the cliff Twitter is currently falling down, and I can’t really expect them to… there’s just so many factors, so much to understand, and I can only say I understand at all because of hours of talking about it with other people. It’s just mind boggling.
Misuse Case@demize @frostyfrog @hacks4pancakes Elon Musk certainly seems to be under the impression that Twitter is too big to die. It’s so too-big-to-die he doesn’t have to worry about EU sanctions, paying rent on the company’s offices, etc.
@demize maybe they just aren't people I really want to know. If they know better.
@hacks4pancakes I think by now pretty much all my friends (who used Twitter) are on Mastodon. Some less tech people, or less terminally online people, still aren’t… but the vast majority are here.
But it also says a lot that the people who haven’t jumped over yet are the less technical ones… even ones who’d be perfectly at home here. I want those people here too!
Alyssa Miller 🛩️ 
@hacks4pancakes yeah I've been trying to gently coax people to see the light but many still don't. Unfortunately, some are folks I mentor so I feel shitty about just abandoning them on that hellsite even if they're kinda doing it to themselves.
@alyssam_infosec I mean, I know I was touchy at first, overcautious, but now there's like extortion, journalist bans, arbitrary banning of free speech. Come on.
Fi 🏳️⚧️@hacks4pancakes @alyssam_infosec you can just say that you don't want to be on that site anymore and that if they want to continue interacting with you that they need to do so in an environment that is safer for you.
Give them the choice to do the right thing or lose access, and couch it as being a safety issue, and I think most folks will react well to that.
[I've lost a lot of contacts over the past few years who didn't feel like respecting my boundaries. It hurts, but I'm much better off having those boundaries respected...]
@munin @alyssam_infosec I have, thought my account will likely be shut off soon as linking to other social networks is now prohibited.
TProphet@hacks4pancakes @munin @alyssam_infosec When your favorite bar gets bought by a jerk and his weird creepy friends show up with inappropriate creepy behavior, would you stick around just because a couple of people you like haven't left yet? I mean, that's basically what happened to Twitter. I stopped posting a month ago and my feed just gets increasingly weird and creepy over there. Not feeling like I'm missing much, despite having only 15% of the followers I do over there.
@tprophet @hacks4pancakes @munin eh, I get what you're saying but it's a little more involved. If I felt like those friends needed my help and I felt a certain loyalty to them, yes I might stay. And hence my getting dragged back to #birdsite every so often to interact with some people.
Dante Mercurio@hacks4pancakes @munin @alyssam_infosec Taking the social out of social networks. Most people don’t change without a compelling event that affects them personally unfortunately. Probably a large number of people staying because they enjoy the drama as well.
DaLanShark@dantemercurio @hacks4pancakes @munin @alyssam_infosec
I actually enjoyed the bird site.
It works, has a mobile app.
I'm grieving about what new ownership has done to the site that I knew for over a decade. The bird's still there, but rules are changing on a whim.
But, here I am, on this new elephant.
I actually enjoyed the bird site.
It works, has a mobile app.
I'm grieving about what new ownership has done to the site that I knew for over a decade. The bird's still there, but rules are changing on a whim.
But, here I am, on this new elephant.
@DaLanShark @hacks4pancakes @munin @alyssam_infosec Well, welcome here! Might want to change your profile from tweet to toot or post.
Dave Swersky@hacks4pancakes @alyssam_infosec The folks I still see there seem to be a combination of denial and apathy, with a large "what now" contingent of users dependent on Twitter in the way small businesses were dependent on Facebook. Those last folks are in a pickle 😕
@alyssam_infosec @dswersky they need to have a plan, for being randomly kicked off or losing service.
kira :3@hacks4pancakes @alyssam_infosec honestly if it's anyone who orbits a techy crowd or furries they should feel pretty good coming over here, of all the circles I overlapped with on twitter those are definitely the two (and really, they're almost the same group anyway) that I've seen move over here the most
Lynoure Braakman@hacks4pancakes
I seem to be in Twitter now mostly just to make sure people know flight data is public information
I seem to be in Twitter now mostly just to make sure people know flight data is public information
Mardoch@hacks4pancakes my guiding philosophy had been "don't let shitty men steal your joy from you" but I don't think I can't keep to it anymore
@Mardoch but it's different, its not just holding a line, but choosing to actively not financially support them :(
@hacks4pancakes yeah...my only remaining justification was "i block all the ads anyway, so..." but even those fall away eventually
dondasch@hacks4pancakes I still try to get some accounts to come here that I've enjoyed immensely, like Conan the Salaryman.
Play Ball and Fight Fascists@hacks4pancakes
I have so many different backup accounts, LOL. So. Many. Accounts.
I have so many different backup accounts, LOL. So. Many. Accounts.
The Doctor@hacks4pancakes It's like trying to get people to back up their data.
History on the Fox@hacks4pancakes I'm both here and on Post while I watch Twitter burn.
@hacks4pancakes For real. I sympathize with those folks who are dependent on the income, but it is past time to come up with a Plan B.
Channelgrace@hacks4pancakes some of those over there that I followed for years…and miss…still asserting that they will not leave, are staying til the bitter end-unfortunately, I think that’s coming soon
Tracketpacer@hacks4pancakes dude. some of us don’t have massive followings & need to be able to post engaging content like videos & photos in order to develop & maintain as content creators. we can’t currently do that on mastodon. i respect you & what you do for the community, but this holier-than-thou nonsense is super alienating.
@[email protected] cool, bye
Tony@hacks4pancakes the cycle is complete. We have officially replicated infosec twitter. Arguments and all. 🥲 Joking aside, from a content consuming perspective Mastodon is finally meeting the bar of what I was looking for there.
Joe Słowik@hacks4pancakes I disagree with folks doing so, but I can at least explain the behavior for individuals that have created a significant following and for whom that feels imporrtant. Starting from scratch can suck. But that's explanatory, not exculpatory.
Ian Bowers@hacks4pancakes I have some folks I'm close to that just don't exist anywhere else yet. Chipping away at them. They're honestly the only thing keeping me there.
John Wyss@hacks4pancakes
A big thanks for the birdsite export tips, worked perfectly.
A big thanks for the birdsite export tips, worked perfectly.
Jayson Massey@hacks4pancakes I only know one person that was on Twitter for a long time and made it her primary social media channel. I think she was on of the first 10,000 users. So I could see if she didn't have a backup account. I would think most people migrated to Twitter from another social media site. If that was MySpace, well, there's no going back there...it's the ghost of Twitter Future...
@hacks4pancakes Have you been on MySpace lately? It's S P O O K Y
Steven, hack of all trades 
@hacks4pancakes I’m here but I had a tiny social circle on Bird App which is basically my entire social circle. So I’m mostly worried about starting over, I guess. 🤔
etherknot@hacks4pancakes Orkut log in standing by.