@[email protected] @bjo

#bluesky's approach to #moderation:

"fuck that job, you do it... uh, freedom!"

voila:

#composableModeration

but then they police *that*

so in the end it's a trick to keep the hamsters running on the wheel of "bluesky is #decentralized and free!"

nope

#corporate #socialMedia doesn't like moderation

1. it's a cost center: you need to pay #moderators

2. it squelches #bigots and #trolls

but they mean outrage -> eyeballs and clicks -> engagement, their bread and butter

@breizh

#moderation is a human endeavor and is subjective

there will be grey areas

the idea is to be as rigorous as possible and allow for goofs, as long as there are standards and reviews

none of this has anything to do with the idea of #composableModeration

at best it's #bluesky corporate going "fuck moderation, you do it"

and then of course the result is crap

so they try to police *that*

and the blowback: "you said we could do it, but you're not letting us"

the whole idea is bullshit

@thisismissem

sure, a #blocklist can be capricious and abusive, and subject to pique

but the overarching concept is that anyone makes a blocklist, and makes it as rigorous and comprehensive, or random and shoddy, as they want

and then people subscribe to it or not depending upon its quality (or lack thereof: is the theoretical harm in that a problem if it is self-imposed?)

if #bluesky corporate polices that, then what we get is they've removed the entire premise of #composableModeration

A #blocklist is not going to be polite

It's a blocklist after all

So much for "#composableModeration" on #centralized #Bluesky

#moderation #AI

"There is a technical story, of how #Bluesky and #ATProto do #composablemoderation for specific countries. But this is not just an interesting technology, it has implications of #government #censorship more broadly. Not only is #Turkey's censorship of accounts even easier to #sidestep, it also allows for new ways to highlight and create #visibility for the content that the Turkish government wants to be hidden.

…a closer look at how #moderation works on Bluesky."

https://fediversereport.com/bluesky-censorship-and-country-based-moderation/

Bluesky, censorship and country-based moderation

This week, Bluesky hid accounts in for users in Turkey after a government order. I take a closer look at government censorship and ATProto, how geographic moderation labelers work, and the impact on the future of decentralised social networks.

fediversereport.com
"#Bluesky is fine. It has features I significantly prefer to Mastodon's equivalent. #Composablemoderation is amazing, both a technical triumph and a triumph of human-centered design.
I hope Mastodon adopts those features…
But #Mastodon has one feature that Bluesky sorely lacks – #theFederation that imposes antienshittificatory discipline on companies and offers an enshittification fire-exit for users if the discipline fails."
@pluralistic
https://pluralistic.net/2025/01/20/capitalist-unrealism/
Pluralistic: Enshittification isn’t caused by venture capital (20 Jan 2025) – Pluralistic: Daily links from Cory Doctorow

Composable moderation is one of the things ATProto/BlueSky gets right, along with account portability between data stores. I wonder how much of this can be added to fediverse software using the Zot creator's FEPs? Which I assume are being implemented in his new project called Forte;

https://codeberg.org/fortified/forte

#fediverse #ComposableModeration #ATProto #BlueSky #AccountPortability #Zot #FEP #Forte

forte

Decentralised personal communication system.

Codeberg.org