Szescstopni

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Old white guy living in the #wetlands of #Polesia (#Polesie in Polish) in #EasternPoland. Surrounded by #bogs and #forests, trying not to fuck up surrounding nature too much.

Taking care of a small pack of #dogs (most of them rescue dogs) – #IdąPsięta.

#RuralBroadband provider by accident. Starting a small #LoRaWAN project to monitor our wetlands. Now also learning #Meshtastic. Coding, mostly in #Python. Luddite.

#Atheist. I don't *believe* in #science – science is our defence against belief.

I try to check facts before I toot.

Fuck nazis.

Dog and wetlands pictures on PixelFed https://pixel.pol.social/szescstopni
I sometimes toot in Polish – jebać nazistów.

Zdolny, ale leniwy.

Moved here from my first instance https://qoto.org/@szescstopni where I've been since November 2022.

I haven't deleted my Twitter, for good reasons, but I'm not using it anymore. https://twitter.com/szescstopni

Smażing

#IdąPsięta

To go back to my previous post, for a plant-based diet to be attractive, we need to help people choose plant based alternatives to meat for more or less all occasions. So meat is no longer the default
That's what we need good chefs for: to help turn traditional foods into vegetarian/vegan alternatives that are tasty and easy to prepare.
Most traditional dishes are surprisingly modern. Our tastes can easily be changed...

As an example, in France, the markets are laden with charcuterie and cheese, BUT ALSO, beautiful fresh fruits and vegetables - a nudge towards the latter would improve human health, animal welfare and reduce emissions...

https://fediscience.org/@Ruth_Mottram/114856950779865966
Ruth_Mottram - Have been in France for week + a half now, it's not impossible to get vegan food + vegetarian is straightforward if you eat dairy.
But I was struggling to find good traditional style French #PlantBased food.
This site however is outstanding making french cuisine vegan

https://menu-vegetarien.com/

Ruth Mottram (@Ruth_Mottram@fediscience.org)

Have been in France for week + a half now, it's not impossible to get vegan food + vegetarian is straightforward if you eat dairy. But I was struggling to find good traditional style French #PlantBased food. This site however is outstanding making french cuisine vegan https://menu-vegetarien.com/

FediScience.org

I saw a handfull of posts by US Americans, detecting backward-ness in Germany's and/or Europe's lack of air conditioning in homes.
They explained it with an alleged fear of technology.

Well, Germany's southernmost latitude in the Alpes(!), is about on the US border to Canada. Range from 47°N to 54°N.
Extreme warm temperatures simply weren't the rule here, before 2018, except for areas in the far South-West.
I grew up on 51°N = Calgary, Canada, in a 2-storey terrace house built 1961 with double glazing, outside blinds, and cellar. We never had hot summers but long, cold winters galore. A ski lift just up the hill.

The US are more like Southern Europe, L.A. or Texas are Northern Africa...

So why do Southern European homes not have AC (yet)?
People in these old-world latitudes had thousands of years of experience with high temperatures and built their houses, villages, cities accordingly.
Thick walls for proper insulation, outside blinds, narrow alleys and backyards keep out the midday sun, awnings across streets or alleys, arch ways along city blocks for shopping streets and the like.

The comparison to US suburbia with thin-walled, low-quality houses makes it clear why some sort of cooling seemed "necessary" already in the cooler past.
And living "in Northern Africa" – without heat-adapted building codes? 🤷🏽‍♀️

#heat #ExtremeHeat #heatwave #ClimateChange #ExxonKnew

mam złe wieści - wygląda na to, że mogę dostać się do moich sejwów w chmurze (zapomniałem skopiować) z Epica, a to oznaczałoby, że mogę kontynuować moją karierę w Football Managera drużyną St. Pauli jeszcze z Windowsa, żegnajcie, widzowie

Good God. A restaurant uses AI to generate menu and this is what it reads.

Source: Restaurants shouldn't use AI for description https://old.reddit.com/r/mildlyinfuriating/comments/1lzmx3o/restaurants_shouldnt_use_ai_for_description/

net flicks and chill

was telling kid that birch is generally accepted as an European substitute for Japanese oak for bokutō swords, having similar softwood properties of denting without splintering and resisting breaking on impact etc. kid asked, what about Brazilian woods?

I said I don't know—lots of people made ipê swords but ipê is one of the "ironwoods", super hard, meaning it will shatter and will shatter badly, so it's in the same category as ebony, beautiful wooden swords that are for swinging alone but not for fighting. and I said if I wanted to look up good woods maybe I would check what were historical woods for tacapes/bordunas—heavy clubs used by various different indigenous peoples in the Amazon and Atlantic, many of them suspiciously sword-shaped.

turns out it's actually quite hard to find out reliable info on what premodern tacapes were made of (a common difficulty with indigenous things), but I found on Parellada 2017 that the Xetá from my home state used "alecrim" wood for weapons, which was surprising for me because I only know the word as the Portuguese for "rosemary" (from the Arabic, إِكْلِيل, more like "crown" or "garland"). thought I myself didn't know that, the word is also used for a couple different native trees, and I think Parellada means Holocalyx balansae aka alecrim-de-campinas, Guanari: ybyra-pepe. According to Remade it's a dense wood good for billiard clubs and tool handles, so it fits
https://www.remade.com.br/madeiras-exoticas/324/madeiras-brasileiras-e-exoticas/alecrim

(the Xetá/Héta are a Tupian folk that the farmer colonisers genocided all the way down to 8 survivors in the barbaric, remote historical past of the 1950s).

> At the Paraná Museum, the 9 bordunas, "aura haimbé", are oar-shaped in alecrim, with length varying between 78 to 135cm,, width 16 to 23cm, with the widest part hardened with hot coals. The wooden surface was polished with ipê bark, ash and water, giving it a rusty brown tint (Fernandes, 1959, 1961; Kozák et al., 1981). Kozák documented narratives, later illustrated, of these bordunas used for fighting. The handle could be used in daily life to grind jerivá fruit or pound meat meal...

other sources say that the oar shape—BDSM people would surely call this a paddle—is specific to the Xetá, and was used as a sort of multi-tool; you could dig roots with it, or hit against trees for percussion communication, etc.

The UK Environment Agency has some tips for the public to help conserve water, including

> Deleting old emails to reduce pressure on data centre servers

I kid you not.

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/england-faces-5-billion-litre-public-water-shortage-by-2055-without-urgent-action

England faces 5 billion litre public water shortage by 2055 without urgent action

England faces 5 billion litre a day shortfall for public water supplies by 2055 – and a further 1 billion litre a day deficit for wider economy.

GOV.UK

Reposting this because now I know her name.

FIFA let Trump walk off with their trophy. Every Republican in office let Trump walk off with their integrity. MAGAs let him walk off with their Medicaid, just a lot of them don't know it yet.

In a world full of cowards and sycophants, be a Rebecca Torres. 👏🏼

#ICE #California #resist #fascism #Trump

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I know "650 lbs an hour" sounds crazy, because it kinda is.

But that also just means filling one of these buckets every ~3 minutes. That's doable for the average healthy adult.

(Doing it 10hrs/day for weeks in a row is the hard part.)

The average orange picker pulls 876 lbs/hour.

At $20/hr, that would cost 2 cents per pound for labor.

Here's the source I'm using for lbs/hr btw:

https://swfrec.ifas.ufl.edu/docs/pdf/economics/extension/econ_labor_pr.pdf

A *slow* strawberry picker can get 20lbs/hr. If they make $20/hr, that's only $0.75 for a pint basket.

Sure, that's a noticeable price difference. And it's still nowhere near "doubling or tripling" the cost of food, as I've seen people claim repeatedly.

https://www.wweek.com/news/2016/06/29/breaking-from-custom-one-small-oregon-farm-pays-pickers-by-the-hour/

This helps explain why it's so hard to automate farm labor!

It's not that it's too hard to make a robot pick crops.

It's that humans are really, REALLY good at it. It's hard to make a robot that's BETTER at it than people.

Not to be flippant but evolution did see to it that we're really good at getting food off of trees & bushes. We have a rather meaningful several-million-year head start over the robots here.

We even have a real-life experiment that proves paying farm workers a fair wage can be done. And prices went up so little, PEOPLE DIDN'T EVEN NOTICE.

In 2005, tomato pickers in FL struck a deal with Yum! Brands (Taco Bell, KFC, & others) to guarantee higher wages.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coalition_of_Immokalee_Workers

Coalition of Immokalee Workers - Wikipedia

The deal?

Yum! Brands would only by from farms that had signed on to a fair food program with the Coalition of Immokalee Workers. They'd pay extra for those tomatoes, and the extra $ would be passed through directly to tomato pickers as a raise.

This deal nearly doubled tomato pickers' wages.

And guess how much this big, ground-shaking deal raised the price of tomatoes?

ONE PENNY PER POUND.

That's it.

This program was so successful, others have signed on.

McDonald's, Burger King, Whole Foods, Subway, Trader Joe's, Chipotle, Walmart, Fresh Market, & several food service co's (Compass, Aramark, Sodexo, Bon Appetit) have all agreed to pay an extra $0.01/lb for CIW tomatoes.

To be clear, the program isn't without controversy.

FL-based Publix has famously refused to sign on.

Its donations lean Republican. Publix heiress Julie Fancelli is a heavy right-wing donor who sponsored the Jan 6 riots.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Julie_Fancelli

Julie Fancelli - Wikipedia

CIW has been incredibly successful at showing exactly how we can afford to pay farm workers a fair wage.

And certain Florida farm & food interests really, really haven't liked that. It's legitimately fueled MAGA as a political force in Florida.

Surely it's a total coincidence that Trump's first large-scale immigrant detention facility is in Florida. In easy commuting distance of the tomato fields around Immokalee

The reality is lots of farmers would just rather not pay fair wages.

The yields on hand-picked fruit & veg is several tons per acre.

So every penny per lb they cut from wages, is hundreds of dollars of profit in the farmer's pocket.

It sucks to think about. But that's the reality of farm wages.

Farms usually blame "large corporations" for not paying them properly, so they're "forced" to pay poor wages.

That's why CIW made these bargains directly with the large corps. To stop farms from passing the buck and playing "Aw shucks, I'd love to pay fair wages but I can't afford to."

And you know what? It took time to get the big food corps to the table. But most of them ultimately signed on. In the end, they were a lot more amenable to proper farm wages than most of the farms.

The corps like Publix that get mad about CIW & fair farm wages, it's not bc proper farm wages will put them out of business.

It's because they get upset when ANY workers get collective bargaining wins. It's just generic anti-labor politics- not an existential threat to their business.

Anyway. When you see people hyperventilating that "B-b-but paying farm workers more would make food unaffordable!" please correct them up for me.

They might mean well? They might be trying to make a point about how much we owe the humble farm worker?

But that kind of talk is exactly how you get people believing "Gosh shucks golly. I guess we just need slavery to live."

Cut it out already.

This is usually when I tell people "and go follow CIW (Coalition of Immokalee Workers) if you haven't already." But it looks like they're not on Mastodon.

So uhhhh go follow UFW if you haven't already, they're at https://mastodon.online/@ufwupdates@union.place

Mastodon

@sarahtaber this whole thread is so important, thank you!
@sarahtaber
In Britain, when I was younger, you could still work the fields for cash in hand. Do a few hours before school, a morning, a day here and there and it was a good way of earning beer money. To this day, I am still in awe of the speed of the full-time workers. I still suspect that the only thing that could move through a crop faster than them, would be a plague of locusts. I will never take agricultural workers for granted.
@pathfinder @sarahtaber so many occupation would be much more appreciated if people had first hand experience in those kinds of ways.
@mhanson101 @pathfinder @sarahtaber I truly believe there is no such thing as unskilled labor.
@spiegelmama @pathfinder @sarahtaber 100%, there are masters in every field
@sarahtaber great thread, thanks as always!
@sarahtaber solidarity forever!! Great thread, thanks for sharing
@sarahtaber inside Mastodon I think you’ll want to link to them as @ufwupdates
@deafferret Thank you, I'm still a bit new to Mastodon and was unsure how to turn that link into something I could follow from a different instance.
@sarahtaber hey thank you I learned a lot. I had been assuming owners had a leg to stand on other than greed, because I keep failing to aim low enough in my expectations of capitalism somehow

@sarahtaber
We already have slavery. No one cares. Unfortunately.

Fast-food chains use Alabama prison inmates as slave labor ...

https://www.al.com/news/2023/12/fast-food-chains-use-alabama-prison-inmates-as-slave-labor-lawsuit-alleges.html
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Fast-food chains use Alabama prison inmates as slave labor, lawsuit alleges

The number of prisoners granted parole has plummeted, and prison officials force many of those inmates to work off site in a scheme that generates $450 million a year for the state, the lawsuit said.

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@AnnyJoe @sarahtaber How long until there are prisoner barracks behind every McDonald's? Or maybe ChikfillA will be the pioneer.

@sarahtaber
> No one cares.

Sorry. Obviously lots of people care. Just not enough.

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@AnnyJoe @sarahtaber Kafka's imagination couldn't even touch what Alabama Republicans are capable of bringing into existence
@sarahtaber How much you wanna bet that the cost per person in any given state is actually lower when farm workers are fairly compensated and not at constant risk of deportation, because of the cumulative effects of workers paying more in taxes but being able to access preventative healthcare vs emergency services and less spent on law enforcement and legal services?
@sarahtaber there is more to life than dirt-cheap produce.
@boor @sarahtaber Corporate farms are run by millionaires and billionaires and they became that wealthy on the backs of low paid labor, essentially slaves.

@sarahtaber

people who are paid well get to be good consumers, promoting an upward spiral of good instead of a downward spiral of evil

@libramoon @sarahtaber

Wild to me that someone as craven as Henry Ford got this and yet….

@sarahtaber

Same argument the Walton family makes about Walmart employes.

@sarahtaber

Every time I see someone saying that basic human rights and reasonable pay would raise the price of food beyond affordability, I want to spit rivets.

Hon, an extra cent a pound isn't what's made your burger cost 2-3 times what it did twenty years ago, it's the fact that corporations will raise the price of their goods to the very limit of affordability and then keep ratcheting it, click-by-click, at every opportunity, while refusing to provide their workers a fraction of what they're worth.

More slave labour isn't going to make your food cheaper. Making sure that the ultracapitalists pay in spades for their inhumanity, now that might just do the trick.

@theogrin Yeah, it's just fundamentally wrong.

"If we pay these people enough then other people won't be able to afford food."

Then the solution is to pay the other people a fair wage as well! It's not rocket science! And yet it just seems beyond... ah, I think I have it.

As Upton Sinclair said, it's difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

@sarahtaber

@arafel @theogrin @sarahtaber I think it could be stated in an even more simple way.

There are only two real scenarios in which paying a living wage would make something unaffordable.

* We do not produce enough of the thing. (This is a cry for innovation)
* The general population is NOT paid a living/fair wage for their labor.

We live in the second one.

@arafel @theogrin @sarahtaber Note: this last line is meant to imply that people should demand better pay for those they worry will be unable to afford food.
@sarahtaber I mean if farm workers were paid actually fairly, tens of millions of people would be unable to afford food, at the minimum. that's necessarily where capitalism leads us. for the owner class to skim trillions off dollars worth off the top they need us to not have enough. they already wanna cost optimize away healthcare, but unfortunately the ungrateful and undeserving workers still need food. how horrible. they should be able to live off eating rocks.
@sarahtaber what makes things expensive is the (investor) asshole on top who needs to sit on a mountain of cash, for some reason. Not wages for workers. If you cant locate the jerk, you just need to zoom out. He's there, i promise you.
@sarahtaber
To add: even if would, these other people that have difficulty to pay for increased food prices are then clearly not being paid enough. A living wage for everybody should be the most basic standard in a democracy.
@sarahtaber This makes me so mad. Here in central Alberta they are all on board with these ideas. That raising min wage would destroy their ability to afford and enjoy a burger.
@sarahtaber What would make food more affordable is if shareholders and top brass in BigAg took a cut..
Paying living wages does not make stuff and services expensive, its the profits of capitalists that we can't afford.
@sarahtaber
I believe the primary thing the unions represent, and the reason why owners will fight to the death against them, is a voice for the workers. Yes, that often means fair wages, but if it was just that the owners wouldn't fight so hard against it. It's the concept that they have to talk to the workers as equals in the first place that they can't bear.
@evilotto @sarahtaber Unions very generally interfere with the right of capital to collude in the exploitation of labor. Having to listen to their workers is one aspect of this.

@sarahtaber

I think this is fabulous when you also combine it with Vox and probably more perfect union a few years ago reporting on the major meat, packing industry, and they are effect on ranchers at the feed lot stage.

@sarahtaber we as consumers can certainly put the pressure on corporations to do this.
@nomdeb @sarahtaber please do. Theres this book called "Grapes of Wrath" that called on us to do so. Came out pretty recently.

@sarahtaber To add to this - the Chocolate industry has a similar reckoning worldwide with chocolate farming - but some companies, after being dragged on it, realized that maybe they could just, you know, take steps to ethically source their chocolate [ https://www.reeveconsulting.com/2024/02/14/getting-chocolates-isnt-as-sexy-as-you-think-heres-why/ ].

Any extra increase in wages would likely be offset by a decrease in P.R. and marketing to make people want to knowingly buy child labour-sourced chocolate.

Getting Chocolates isn’t as Sexy as You Think... Here’s Why. - Reeve Consulting

  Valentine’s Day is here! Now you may be thinking, “I should buy these chocolates to show my love for them.  It’ll be a great idea!”.  Well not exactly… and that’s because not all chocolates are sustainably produced.  You’d be surprised by the amount of chocolates being produced today that are still manufactured using unethical processes that contribute to deforestation and child labor.  Ethical and ecological concerns in the chocolate industry are the biggest problems, so if you’re thinking of buying chocolate, make sure that you use your judgement in buying sustainably from chocolate producers that are ethically sourced.   ...

Reeve Consulting
@sarahtaber (I don't know how much chocolate prices have gone up, but I do know that the last time I had to buy them as a gift, they were not excessively more at least than they usually were.)
@AT1ST @sarahtaber A lot of the cost and price increases for cocoa over the last few years have been because of drops in yields, which have mostly been blamed on bad weather and lower than expected rainfall (I think a couple of regions are also facing some pest issues). I think it's been the same issues for coffee.
@dartigen @AT1ST @sarahtaber
Coffee and cocoa are cash crops that have been spread way beyond their original habitats, often into places just at the margi. of profitable production. As global warming messes with the climate in those places, the yield goes down. It takes time and stability to introduce to places that might become new sources, and the land might already be used for something else. Plus, stability is not a major feature of current climates.

@sarahtaber People need to realise that farmers arent generally "the good guys" or "the humble small business" or whatever they project onto them from the books they read and movies they watch. Sure some might be, some might try to be fair to their employees.

Where i am from, farmer protests are *extremely* far-right and routinely use Nazi iconography (that is in Germany). And i've read similarly from other places. And they do inhumane exploitation.

@EinsPossum @sarahtaber When I drove through farm country near my urban area, the Trump signs increased the further I got.

I have a theory that MAGA is a venereal disease spread by livestock.

@EinsPossum @sarahtaber Fucking farmers slathered their road-facing fences with Reform UK signs last election. Bastards.

I live in the Netherlands and it's about the same here :/ the guys who own a fuckton of land also basically make the rules and when you say "hey please don't spray roundup 50m from my house" they say YOU'RE bullying THEM. And the cops don't do shit naturally. Farmers protests will have puppets of left wing politicians on nooses, spray manure on the highway and set tires on fire, or surround a politician's house and there are zero repercussions, they even get a whole political party that gets a shitton of votes to boot, and meanwhile teenagers at peaceful climate protests are assaulted by cops and vilified by the media.

Sorry this just turned into a rant lol

@sarahtaber

It’s very distressing (that “lots of farmers would just rather not pay fair wages”) & it makes me ask questions about farm workers in my country (Australia) where we’ve had a number of scandals related to labour hire practices. 😐

Thanks again for shining a light on such important topics. 🙂