#WSocial: "We want to promote European digital sovereignty. We're made in Europe, for the world!"

@EUCommission: "A strong Europe needs independent digital spaces. Today, we’re expanding our presence to W."

W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

No further comment necessary.

Check for yourselves (04:30): https://inv.nadeko.net/Vcq4MiabpEQ

#BigTech #OpenWashing #EuropeWashing #SovereigntyWashing

@_elena sounds shady AF 🤥

@EUCommission @_elena after reading about this I just opened a Eurosky "MU" account instead. Will stay on Mastodon but may migrate my BlueSky account to MU: https://mu.social/profile/daveeveritt.eurosky.social

Update: I opened a MU account *before* migrating my BlueSky to EuroSky and now get this when trying to migrate… have opened a support request.

@cubeExplorer @EUCommission @_elena And in theory you should be able to use a Eurosky account and MU to connect and interact with Wsocial users?

Both use the AT Protocol.

@the_wub @EUCommission @_elena - but not Mastodon, right?

@cubeExplorer @EUCommission @_elena There is a bridge between Bluesky and Mastodon. I understand it works two ways.

Therefore the bridge allows interoperability between the Fediverse and (at least) Bluesky that runs on the AT Protocol.

So if Wsocial runs on the AT Protocol then I assume it is technically possible to post there from Mastodon. If the bridge software supports that.

https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2026/04/bridge-somewhere-how-link-your-mastodon-bluesky-or-other-federated-accounts

A Bridge to Somewhere: How to Link Your Mastodon, Bluesky, or Other Federated Accounts

One of the central promises of open social media services is interoperability—the idea that wherever you personally decide to post doesn’t require others to be there just to follow what you have to say. Think of it like a radio broadcast: you want to reach people and don't care where they are or what device they're using.

Electronic Frontier Foundation
@the_wub @EUCommission @_elena understood. I have no interest (or contacts) on WSocial, but will persist in trying to migrate from BSky to EuroSky and bring friends over to MU on euro

@cubeExplorer @EUCommission @_elena I made a Eurosky account last night out of curiosity.

I had a quick look at MU which seemed to require you to federate with Bluesky.

I may have misunderstood something as it was quite late in the day.

I will look at it again when I have more time.

@cubeExplorer @EUCommission @_elena And, of course if Wsocial support such federation to non AT Protocol systems.
@the_wub @EUCommission @_elena I've been posting to both BSky and MastD using OpenVibe, but much prefer the Mastdodon experience and UI. Will add euroSky to it once migrated.
@_elena @EUCommission Why does it feel like Palantir is behind the scenes there somewhere?
@LePertti maybe they use Peter Thiel's Persona in the Background ;-) @_elena @EUCommission

@bjoern do you have any proof of this?

@LePertti @_elena @EUCommission

@thezero no. Maybe the smiley at the end should emphasize that this was a sarcastic comment. @LePertti @_elena @EUCommission
@bjoern @LePertti @_elena @EUCommission sorry I didn't get the sarcasm and was genuinely interested in it.

@LePertti @_elena @EUCommission

who needs Palantir when you already have google and apple involved.

@LePertti @_elena @EUCommission because leyen is in the boat with them.
@LePertti @_elena @EUCommission When her pathetic self was in power in Germany they dreamed about stop signs and verifications that everyone has a licence plate on the internet...

@_elena @EUCommission

Is EU trying to become a more "polite" version of the orange thing in the White House ?
Looks like we are willing to go in that direction. I mean...not me, but Governments....

@andre123
It seems like the conclusion they took is "American fashtech is bad solely because it is American"
@_elena @EUCommission
@ozzelot @andre123 @_elena @EUCommission
That's sad how our EU leaders want to mimic US instead of offering another model. "We need tech billionaires". "We need out own hegemonic centralized platforms". "We need our own global surveillance solution".

@Preuk @ozzelot @_elena @EUCommission

It's like they are still playing the Great Game like in the XIX century... we are just in a difficult situation right now, but the mindset looks very similar, we want our share of dominance.... sad....very sad....I hope we can change this, at least in Europe.

@ozzelot @andre123 @_elena @EUCommission

The App Store and Play Store ARE American, so if that's their conclusion, they failed to understand the question.

@leeloo @ozzelot @_elena @EUCommission that's true, but also I don't think they really want (can) break with USA... as long as Trump is slightly more reasonable than usual they will accept whatever and go on without anything serious to differentiate EU. At least it looks like this to me right now.
@andre123 @leeloo @ozzelot @_elena @EUCommission 100%! I wouldn't mind betting there'd be, (one-way?), freedom of access agreement with the states anyway - DO NOT TRUST THE #EUCommission - unless you do not mind being observed, and depending on your political viewpoint, being victimised through the various tools we have already seen being used in amerikkka.
@_elena @EUCommission This almost looks like a scam where you have to enter a PIN. Do you have to enter it in the app?
@_elena @EUCommission I don't like the way it needs my ID. This should never be required in my opinion.

@_elena @EUCommission Like... No, freaking way. 🤨️
I hope users have even quater of a brain and just do not use it.

90's was told that, not to put anything about real you in internet, this has become full 180° over the years.

@_elena @EUCommission a polished version of the same shit
@_elena @EUCommission Well I registered for it, but on second thought, maybe not... "We don't need US tech" / "Please use US tech" / "You MUST use US tech"
@_elena privacy lost, no thank you! I don't want to present my docs to another company.
@_elena IT skills have never been strong among politicians.
They tend to not understand the issues, and are thus doomed to take the wrong decisions every time.
@borup @_elena and even if they consult with you: They nod, pretend to understand and still take the wrong fork in the road.

@borup @_elena

it is okay to known't things. it is also somehow okay not to ask because often you dont know what to ask or that you should ask.

but you are an idiot if you dont listen to experts afterwards, because then you know better.

further you are a top tier piece of shit if your ego is too high to admit you did wrong and that you then fight for your wrong decision because you tell yourself you know better

@_elena Very sovereign.
@_elena @EUCommission steht das W für "White"? ​
@_elena @EUCommission @ploum
💩💩💩👹👹👹🤡🤡🤡

@_elena @EUCommission

Don't we already have enough SoMe platforms ?

Mastodon, X, FB, Oase and Socii in Denmark...

@_elena @EUCommission I'm a senior, very experienced IT devops: I was informed the other day that public institutions are now paying for workshops held by Microsoft representatives on "how to implement souvereign IT - with Windows".

Eh... 🙄 ?

If I'd be one of the admins there, I'd stand up and call #bullshit

@ anyone reading this: we are paying for this in high numbers daily. That money is missing where actually needed.

#PublicMoneyPublicCode #FOSS

@_elena
External "consultants" NEED to know where your house lives, because otherwise the universe will implode.☝️😎
@EUCommission
@_elena @EUCommission but... but it's all for our goods and for protecting our kids... and stuff

@_elena @EUCommission

W Social: "You need to verify your identity. Please download our #WIdentity app from Apple's App Store or Google's Play Store"

Go to googles or apples tracker store and download the app.

Does the W stand for Wankers?

@_elena @EUCommission So to access this "open" space we need to download an application from the stores from the selfsame companies you criticised for having a gatekeeper roles? AND these are the companies we want to become more independent off. Hypocritical the last degree. Hard to believe that this actually about freedom and sovereignty, and not about building yet another surveillance and censorship apparatus. Just "Under EU controll".
@gilgwath @_elena @EUCommission Control is the key word here.
@_elena @EUCommission I don't even understand how this thing works. They claim to have no access to the user's identity data and that it stays local on the device. So why do they need you to scan your passport while there are countless ways to authenticate anonymously?
In a press report they say that the goal is to confirm you're human without revealing who you are, yet in the very next sentence they say that they encourage a culture where users engage under their real names, WTF?
@bladecoder @_elena @EUCommission Theoretically you can first confirm the loop with the device (that's the qr code stuff) and then use its camera to scan the scan code on your id document. Then this could be looked up in the standard way (probably varying degrees of access to your government's API) to get "temporary" access to your ID info. Then it can do whatever comparing it needs via face scan, which doesn't work well, to validate the person and device together....

@bladecoder @_elena @EUCommission Then you issue certificates to the device.

There may be some way that they could to the talking to the government with the device but I don't know how they'd establish firm enough trust. That's one reason why they think we shouldn't be able to run our own stuff on our own devices.

At any rate, once the cert lives on the device you can just let the id info on the server get discarded with memory/session cleanup. WE still have to trust that they're doing so.

@crazyeddie @_elena @EUCommission
I guess it could work that way, but then I learned they sometimes do manual verification which means your personal data definitely leaves your device.
They also pretend W Identity is a separate entity which is false, both companies are run by the same people.

Interesting move toward digital sovereignty. It will be interesting to see how identity verification shapes user trust and platform adoption in Europe 👀

@_elena @EUCommission

@_elena @EUCommission
encore une lettre de l'alphabet gâchée ...
@_elena @EUCommission If they are genuinely seeking digital sovereignty, they should include #fdroid as a software store from which the app can be downloaded.