Cis people sometimes demand #trans people rigourously define what "gender" means and explain what drives us to embody a gender other than the one assigned to us at birth. If we can't do that, they say, how can they believe us?

But trans people shouldn't have to be philosophers and psychologists all wrapped up into one to have our experiences believed. 1/

Truth is I don't know. Gender seems a complicated, vague concept to me, and I don't know why I feel the need to be a woman. It wasn't intentional. I never experienced any great internal revelation or certainty.

Nonetheless, evidentially, I am happier and more well-balanced as a woman. Even despite the transphobia I experience.
2/

I don't generally "feel like a woman". I feel like me.

But, like, do you understand that for decades before I transitioned I was fantasising about, pining for, the idea of having a female body, of being recognised as a woman, going thru life as one?

I tried to stoically accept that I was a man, I tried to embrace non-traditional masculinity, I tried everything to make this need go away. It didn't.

So I have to conclude, this is something real.
3/

And then, having run out of other options, I finally tried the things I had ruled out previously as too scary, the things that would bring judgment down on me.

I tried transition. Tho at the time I hadn't even realised myself as a woman.

I was shit scared. I did it anyway.
4/

I tried painting my nails. It brought me happiness. I tried feminine accessories. They brought comfort. I tried shaving my body hair. It felt calming.

I started dressing in femme clothes, around the house. It felt exciting at first, then just... right.

And then I went on hormones. And everything accelerated. My body itself began to feel like a home, like a friend. I hadn't realised how much or how long I had been suffering, because it had just felt normal.
5/

This is fact: transitioning to be more female in body, more feminine in presentation, and taking on a female-coded social role, made me feel vastly better in myself.

I know this is true of me, and many like me. And the experiences of transmasculine people in the other direction inform me that it's not as simple as womanhood just being better for everyone. It was something about me.
6/

That's it. That's what I've got. Just my experience.

No grand theory that explains everything, no intellectual justification. I can't explain this any more than you can.

But my experience is real. And I cannot stand by if you're going to "debate" the reality of it.

I exist. I'm right here. Look at me.
Fin/

@Tattie

i am bookmarking this thread. This is precisely on target. Very well said!

@Tattie in fact, I'm sharing a Masto Reader link to this thread on my woke family Signal chat so they can understand what dysphoria is like since it is hard to explain and you have done so in an almost poetic way.
@Tattie cousin told me, after reading it, that her 25 year old AMAB child thinks he might be transgender. They are currently dating a trans woman, too. Thank you for helping to open up that dialogue.
@jrdepriest oh my gosh, I'm so happy that I could be part of that!  
@Tattie elegantly said and true.
@Tattie A fav, a bookmark, and a follow (if you'll have me). I never had the can't-look-in-the-mirror style dysphoria which had me convinced I didn't have any. It wasn't until I took hormones that I realized how little I cared about myself, how apathetic I was towards living, and how insidious a quiet dysphoria can be.

@Tattie Thanks! I appreciate you sharing this. It's lovely. Congrats on finding ways to feel like you.

I also think it's wild that cis people are expecting you to explain gender to them. My experience asking cis people to explain this whole gender thing is that either they flop around like a fish on a riverbank or they fall back on PLUTO IS A PLANET repetition of too-simple things that they learned when they were 7 and haven't thought about since.

@Tattie thanks for writing this, it very much mirrors my own experience. I tried so hard to avoid transitioning. I lived as a femme out gay man for over a decade. I'm still just at the early stages and still terrified, but I've reached the end of the road of alternative options. We shouldn't have to rigorously justify our own existence, it's just unreasonable to expect this. There probably isn't a rational explanation for being trans, it's just life and it unfolds the way it does. Sending all my love 💕
@xorlou well done on reaching this point, it's not easy! Hope transition is bringing you joy!
@Tattie thanks, yes I feel a lot of relief to finally be on HRT and I have been feeling better about myself.

@Tattie
A few people already said similar, but plenty of social sciences have already done all that work of defining gender so we shouldn't have to.

It's not that transphobes can't find the information, it's that they don't care to listen to it anyway because it doesn't validate their own hateful beliefs.

It'd also help if they stopped burning our studies, books, and science centers down then pretending it's a new idea to be a transgender person.

@Tattie

After all this, after all your journey, your questions, your answers... Why should I as some random cis person tell you who you are?? You're clearly the expert on yourself, how much audacity would I need to conjure??

Bonus fun fact: even at the beginning of their journey, people are more the expert on themselves than we can ever be. Accept their judgement!

@Tattie I'm a cis guy. I've always been in favor of trans rights since I learned trans people were a thing, but I did spend a number of years not really getting why someone would be trans.

Then one day I just had the thought, "What if I woke up tomorrow with a female body?" And after the obvious jokes that immediately came to mind, I actually thought about being stuck in the wrong body, unable to get back, and I had to stop because I almost gave myself a panic attack.

I'm an on-again-off-again recreational author, so I frequently find myself in unusual thought experiments. Which is to say, I hadn't intended to have a moment of profound empathy for trans people, but as soon as I calmed down I thought, Oh, this must be how a lot of trans people feel all time.

All of that to say: I see you. It's real. I think most cis people, if they put just a few minutes into the activity, would be forced to admit that if they were suddenly body swapped, they'd be desperate to get back to their correct body. Most cis people just never seriously confront the thought.

@Azuaron do you know? You're the first cis person I've spoken to willing to seriously entertain this thought experiment.

Most cis men make jokes about boobs, and most cis women focus on the privilege aspect. But almost everyone seems to falter at the deep imaginative act of their body being wrong for them.

I'm really glad you commented, because it's heartening to know that this sort of empathy is in fact possible— and that it plays out exactly as I would imagine, panic and all.

Thank you.

@Tattie @Azuaron He's not the only one. Another occasional author here, and another who has pondered waking up as/being polymorphed into a different body. Talking to friends (I also do TTRPG) I hear that the depth of dysmorphia people would experience would vary, but it is real body horror stuff.

Also useful for understanding and building empathy now I have a non-binary child.

Thank you for putting it so well. :-)

@Tattie Yeah, that doesn't entirely surprise me. The problem of the privileged is that they're very rarely confronted with this kind of thing--hell, as I said, I stumbled into it accidentally.

But, when I'm not being too nihilistic for my own good, it gives me a bit of hope. I am, generally, a somewhat unusual person, but I don't think I'm particularly "special" or "good" in this regard, and that means other people could get there.

I feel like I could speed run most guys. Not that I could necessarily turn guys all the way around, but, so much of man culture is, "Look how not-feminine I am! I am not weak and feminine!" (Unhealthy, yes, wrong in so many ways, yes, but that's what it is.) I could be aggressive enough walking them through the scenario that we'd quickly get past, "Haha, boobs," to, "Oh no, my body's wrong and I'm not myself," just by leaning on their existing fears.

@Azuaron @Tattie permission to share this as I feel it's worded so well and might help others understand a bit better

@Azuaron @Tattie "same self, différent body" is a trope in #sciencefiction . Have you read "Call me Joe"? by Poul Anderson (1957!).

In sci-fi that can go in different way. In Anderson's story, having an alien body suits the protagonist just fine. Either way, if you read a lot of it you are almost bound to come across though thought experiments like yours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Story_of_Your_Life?wprov=sfla1

Story of Your Life - Wikipedia

@alberto_cottica yes indeed, it's an extremely long-standing trope.
But the challenge I'd put to you is to stay in this world, and in your own self, as you imagine this. How would you, Alberto, experience this? What would you feel physically and emotionally, embodied inexplicably in a female body?
@Azuaron
@Tattie @Azuaron none of this is to deny the experience of actual trans people, I assure you. I have tried to imagine what it would feel like to be in different bodies (female, disabled, alien, robot, spaceship...). But then it goes back to Daniel Dennett's old argument: you can perhaps imagine what it would feel like to YOU to be, say, a bat. But you cannot imagine what that feels like TO THE BAT ITSELF. You do the thought experiment and it is interesting, but it only goes so far.

@alberto_cottica @Tattie But that's just it, isn't it? I didn't try to imagine what it would be like to be a woman, and I think that's the wrong imagining for the purposes of this conversation.

I imagined what it would be like if I, suddenly and inexplicably, woke up in a female body. I was not a woman, and did not imagine myself as such. I didn't even "imagine myself as trans". I imagined what would happen if I just woke up in a female body, and the need to transition arose out of that situation all on its own.

@Azuaron @Tattie yes, indeed. I was agreeing with you, and gesturing towards SF as a mind-opener of some sort.The protagonist of "Call me Joe" suffers from what we would call today body disphoria. Anderson, in 1957, emphatizes with him.

@Azuaron @Tattie

Hear, hear, Azuaron. Absolutely (as a fellow cis man).

@Tattie

This is so beautiful, so good, and so true.

@Tattie

I'm also a CIS man, and I was on hormone therapy as part of cancer treatment. I got meds that reduced my natural testosterone to close to zero. Had to get radiation in order not to develop breasts at 55 yo. My mental state changed considerably, enhancing all the traits generally associated as female. Physically, I went through menopause - hot flashes, joint pains, the works. A most interesting experience. After the treatment ended, I drifted back as my own hormones picked up again and had many experiences I recognized from puberty.

All this to say that I certainly can't explain this either, but I know from experience that gender is fluid. I lived it, if only for a very short time. Being stuck at the wrong end of that spectrum must be super hard, and I'm happy to hear you seem to have found your way "home" now.

@Tattie

I completely agree. I feel like me now too

@Tattie when I was 18 I read the Dune books. The face dancers led me to think seriously about how it would feel to have a female body instead of a male one.

I thought it would be awesome to be able to change my body type. I was vaguely aware of trans people, but had no interest in being a woman. I just wanted to be able to have a female body sometimes.

Thirty years later, I realised I'm non-binary. It would have saved me a lot of grief if I'd realised as a teenager, but the concept was unheard of (at least in my world) in the late 1980s.

All of which is to agree with you, and add that representation is important.

@Tattie thank you for this, being so open - eloquently put.
Following on from some of the other cis commenters, I also found it difficult to understand how it may feel to be in the wrong body - however, since I started advocating for the whole LGBTQIA+ community in my industry, I’ve come to my own understanding through my experiences, conversations and simply listening to lived experiences.
I see trans people and celebrate you all.
@Tattie yes this is exactly my experience too. The more I experience life as a woman, the harder it becomes to pretend to be a man. I don't know how to explain this but it's undeniable
@Tattie Very much so ! I have no idea “what a woman feels like” and I suspect no one else has either. All I do know is that my mind, body and soul feel right.

@Tattie “I’m a girl”

“Why?”

“Because”

@goatsarah I just think it's neat dot gif.

@Tattie

Thank you for expressing this, it describes (more clearly than I could) a lot of my own experiences..

#BoostFaveBookmarkTrifecta

@RuthODay2 I am honoured by the trifecta!
@Tattie I think even more fundamentally - there's been entire books and a million blogs of personal narratives, lots of them. Medical research studies, medical associations, entire international interdisciplinary organizations of people who are the world experts in gender diversity. They all say trans people are real, valid, and who they say they are. If someone isn't willing to accept those piles of evidence, then challenging an individual trans person is just hunting for some gotcha.

@Tattie

I'm happier as a girl and the evidence suggests it has to do with my brain but that's all I can conclusively say

@burnoutqueen @Tattie “It has to do with the brain” is the only thing I could remember after listening to Robert Sapolsky talk about the topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QScpDGqwsQ

Neuro-biology of trans-sexuality : Prof. Robert Sapolsky

YouTube
@Tattie also a cis person who has never interrogated their gender will get real defensive if you try and flip the question on them. they'll say "i just am" or something

@forestine @Tattie

Yep, funny that 😅

I'm CIS and have never been able to explain why I am CIS, why I am happy with my gender matching my biological sex. I just am. And I don't believe any CIS person really could. So why on earth should any trans person be expected to?

@JaxVent @Tattie yes, great points.

btw in case you weren't aware, cis is not an acronym for anything, but is latin, and doesn't need to be capitalised

@forestine @Tattie

I knew that, so don't know why I capitalise it 🤔 Thanks for the reminder :)

@JaxVent @forestine @Tattie autocorrect uppercases it automatically for me every time and it's so annoying
@anhedonie @JaxVent @forestine @Tattie Long live the Commonwealth of Independent States? 😅
@Tattie
And we shouldn't have to be endocrinologists to get proper health care or lawyers to get our documents changed...
@eruonna or ethicists, or sports scientists, or fashionistas, or anthropologists, or conflict mediators, or counsellors (oh wait)
@Tattie @eruonna nobody is going to stop me being a fashionista 😅