Cis people sometimes demand #trans people rigourously define what "gender" means and explain what drives us to embody a gender other than the one assigned to us at birth. If we can't do that, they say, how can they believe us?

But trans people shouldn't have to be philosophers and psychologists all wrapped up into one to have our experiences believed. 1/

Truth is I don't know. Gender seems a complicated, vague concept to me, and I don't know why I feel the need to be a woman. It wasn't intentional. I never experienced any great internal revelation or certainty.

Nonetheless, evidentially, I am happier and more well-balanced as a woman. Even despite the transphobia I experience.
2/

I don't generally "feel like a woman". I feel like me.

But, like, do you understand that for decades before I transitioned I was fantasising about, pining for, the idea of having a female body, of being recognised as a woman, going thru life as one?

I tried to stoically accept that I was a man, I tried to embrace non-traditional masculinity, I tried everything to make this need go away. It didn't.

So I have to conclude, this is something real.
3/

And then, having run out of other options, I finally tried the things I had ruled out previously as too scary, the things that would bring judgment down on me.

I tried transition. Tho at the time I hadn't even realised myself as a woman.

I was shit scared. I did it anyway.
4/

I tried painting my nails. It brought me happiness. I tried feminine accessories. They brought comfort. I tried shaving my body hair. It felt calming.

I started dressing in femme clothes, around the house. It felt exciting at first, then just... right.

And then I went on hormones. And everything accelerated. My body itself began to feel like a home, like a friend. I hadn't realised how much or how long I had been suffering, because it had just felt normal.
5/

This is fact: transitioning to be more female in body, more feminine in presentation, and taking on a female-coded social role, made me feel vastly better in myself.

I know this is true of me, and many like me. And the experiences of transmasculine people in the other direction inform me that it's not as simple as womanhood just being better for everyone. It was something about me.
6/

That's it. That's what I've got. Just my experience.

No grand theory that explains everything, no intellectual justification. I can't explain this any more than you can.

But my experience is real. And I cannot stand by if you're going to "debate" the reality of it.

I exist. I'm right here. Look at me.
Fin/

@Tattie I'm a cis guy. I've always been in favor of trans rights since I learned trans people were a thing, but I did spend a number of years not really getting why someone would be trans.

Then one day I just had the thought, "What if I woke up tomorrow with a female body?" And after the obvious jokes that immediately came to mind, I actually thought about being stuck in the wrong body, unable to get back, and I had to stop because I almost gave myself a panic attack.

I'm an on-again-off-again recreational author, so I frequently find myself in unusual thought experiments. Which is to say, I hadn't intended to have a moment of profound empathy for trans people, but as soon as I calmed down I thought, Oh, this must be how a lot of trans people feel all time.

All of that to say: I see you. It's real. I think most cis people, if they put just a few minutes into the activity, would be forced to admit that if they were suddenly body swapped, they'd be desperate to get back to their correct body. Most cis people just never seriously confront the thought.

@Azuaron @Tattie "same self, différent body" is a trope in #sciencefiction . Have you read "Call me Joe"? by Poul Anderson (1957!).

In sci-fi that can go in different way. In Anderson's story, having an alien body suits the protagonist just fine. Either way, if you read a lot of it you are almost bound to come across though thought experiments like yours.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Story_of_Your_Life?wprov=sfla1

Story of Your Life - Wikipedia

@alberto_cottica yes indeed, it's an extremely long-standing trope.
But the challenge I'd put to you is to stay in this world, and in your own self, as you imagine this. How would you, Alberto, experience this? What would you feel physically and emotionally, embodied inexplicably in a female body?
@Azuaron
@Tattie @Azuaron none of this is to deny the experience of actual trans people, I assure you. I have tried to imagine what it would feel like to be in different bodies (female, disabled, alien, robot, spaceship...). But then it goes back to Daniel Dennett's old argument: you can perhaps imagine what it would feel like to YOU to be, say, a bat. But you cannot imagine what that feels like TO THE BAT ITSELF. You do the thought experiment and it is interesting, but it only goes so far.

@alberto_cottica @Tattie But that's just it, isn't it? I didn't try to imagine what it would be like to be a woman, and I think that's the wrong imagining for the purposes of this conversation.

I imagined what it would be like if I, suddenly and inexplicably, woke up in a female body. I was not a woman, and did not imagine myself as such. I didn't even "imagine myself as trans". I imagined what would happen if I just woke up in a female body, and the need to transition arose out of that situation all on its own.

@Azuaron @Tattie yes, indeed. I was agreeing with you, and gesturing towards SF as a mind-opener of some sort.The protagonist of "Call me Joe" suffers from what we would call today body disphoria. Anderson, in 1957, emphatizes with him.

@Tattie @alberto_cottica @Azuaron I would be instantly terrified of all men and want nothing at all to do with them.

And that's just that.

Would be like dropping a bomb in the room I'd panic so bad.

MAYBE that situation would improve if I suddenly became attracted to them. I very much doubt it.