Honestly… I thought that the Christian Rapture was a religious concept going back to the very beginning of the religion.

Nope. John Nelson Darby created it in the 1800s, after he had a fall and a knocked his nogging real hard.

Look him up. It’s a hoot.

@GayDeceiver I'll admit, I didn't know that. I don't believe in any of it, mind you. But it figures.
@GayDeceiver one wonders if that's what got Revelations written, too

@kinsale42 @GayDeceiver Tha Latin 'rapio' is Vulgata's 4th century tranlation of the Greek 'harpazo', meaning 'to snatch, to carry away'. – This is the word used in the Thessalonians quoted above.

Personally, I would much prefer to be spirited away by the Japanese gods in the Miyazaki's anime.

@TazPoltorak @kinsale42 @GayDeceiver nah...i want to get on the cat bus from "my neighbour totoro"

@GayDeceiver

OMG yes. As a recovering Roman Catholic I'm like, where in the hell did this come from? I've read that book cover to cover a few times and "rapture" isn't a thing.

Might have come up with it in the 1800s but it wasn't in common usage, in the US at least, until the 1980s! Stupid Falwells.

@deirdrebeth @GayDeceiver Yeah, I’ve heard it described as Christian fanfic
@whybird @deirdrebeth @GayDeceiver apparently expansion on Thessalonians 4:17
"After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever."
@nemeciii @deirdrebeth @GayDeceiver Interesting. That order of events seems the opposite way around to how the rapture is usually depicted - not that I’m any expert on it.

@GayDeceiver

When is the next Rapture predicted?

@DXMacGuffin @GayDeceiver

Tomorrow morning, Friday, between 7.30am and 8.45am.

You will have to go to work at 9am though. Because reasons.

@ParadeGrotesque @GayDeceiver

Awww yeah baby! DICKS OUT FOR THE RAPTURE!

@DXMacGuffin @GayDeceiver

Curb your enthusiasm, this is a non sexual rapture.

We only get one sexual rapture every 99 years. Sorry but I don't make the rules.

@ParadeGrotesque @GayDeceiver

It's my rapture too, it is as sexual as I want to make it. My dick and balls will continue to fly free today! 🍆

@DXMacGuffin @ParadeGrotesque @GayDeceiver

It can be both! You, whip your dick out. You, keep it in your pants. And YOU! Put down that waffle. You know we discussed that sort of perversion not being allowed in a rapture. Have a good end of the world, y'all.

@NuclearOatmeal @DXMacGuffin @ParadeGrotesque @GayDeceiver

you put your left nut in, you put your left out, you put your left nut in, and you shake it all about.

@saltywizard @NuclearOatmeal @ParadeGrotesque @GayDeceiver

🎶 'Cuz it's the fucking Rapture 🎶
🎶 so we've all got our junk out! 🎶
🎶 That's what it's all about! 🎶

@GayDeceiver Some of those Darby posters are an absolute trip (and ludicrously expensive)
@GayDeceiver Kind of fucks with me how much of the problems around the world are basically the great, great, great grandchildren of mediocre white men with power wildly speculating about how the world works in the most convenient way for those specific men and us being surprised the whole fucking planet is bursting at the seams because the last six generations has been an exponentially increasing number of descendants of those mediocre white men attempting to brute force the contortion of the universe to their interpretation of those original musings.
@disorderlyf @GayDeceiver all this. it absolutely tracks that something as devastatingly fucked up & sweepingly harmful as the rapture was all some white english bloke's fever dream. thanks for that, pal.
@GayDeceiver writing from Germany I had to look up Christian Rapture in the dictionary and my impression: it seems to be something very American.
@Josteglitz @GayDeceiver Darby (the guy who invented the concept) was Irish I think. But his ideas only really took off when they were added as study notes to the Scofield Reference Bible, which sold like hotcakes in the United States. So you're correct, quite American.
@FrChazzz @Josteglitz @GayDeceiver yeah the same. No rapture in Luther's bible.

@Josteglitz

It is. And so, many entitled American assholes think they own 'the true religion' and want to dominate the world, saying they are what Jesus wanted et cetera ad infinitum ad nauseam.

@GayDeceiver

@pascaline @Josteglitz @GayDeceiver

The argument goes something like:

1. Deus vult.
2. Quod erat demonstrandum.

@pascaline @Josteglitz @GayDeceiver
"A child of God that loves all creatures and cares for his enemies like wounded family has chosen me! He chose me over all of you LOSERS!!"

@GayDeceiver

And I want to tell everyone who thinks that the second coming is just around the corner, that the rapture already happened and they are stuck with the rest of us to fight the final battle between good and evil

@GhostOnTheHalfShell @GayDeceiver And the MAGAts have sided with the antichrist. You know, assuming Revelations is true, and not just the ravings of a Bronze Age lunatic.
@GayDeceiver
misschpellink of RUPture

@GayDeceiver

It’s like 90% of what is presented as ‘traditional’ ‘biblical’ christianity: invented and solidified in the last century or so.

Rev. Poppy Haze 𓅋 (@[email protected])

every “ancient tradition” was invented between 1848-1870 and every “modern perversion” is so ancient as to predate writing

Girlcock.club
@GayDeceiver Yup. Would have probably been considered heresy in the middle ages.

@gimulnautti I'm pretty sure most christian denominations would still consider it (and similar beliefs popular in the US like the Prosperity Gospel) heresy, but nowadays they're mostly more polite about it if you're part of a different denomination.

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@Landa @gimulnautti @GayDeceiver

Raised evangelical fundy here... godless heathen now ... read way too many books..

But yeah as a little kid it always puzzled me why there were so many different variants within 'christianity' , Methodists, free methodists, baptists, catholics, Lutherans, Mormons, Episcopalian..... and then of course the answer is that they all 'don't have it quite right' and only our Sect/Denomination/Cult has it right..

#tribalism
#Othering
#Zenophobia
Power Structure.

@oldguycrusty @Landa @gimulnautti @GayDeceiver

I remember how surprised I was when I read "christians and catholics" mentioned by someone in the fediverse.
Clearly catholics are christians themselves...

@GayDeceiver Didn't know about the fall before now. So, he's like Doc Brown but with really bad theology.

@GayDeceiver

Ellen G. White, of the Seventh Day Adventists, got hit in the face with a stone.

Mary Baker Eddy, of Church of Christ, Scientist, slipped on ice and hit her head.

I wonder if there are other hits to the head leading to the creation of new religions? 🤔

@isol @GayDeceiver add: St. Paul falling off his horse and suddenly becoming a Christian

@mbpaz @isol @GayDeceiver

So basically all the result of traumatic brain injury. Hehe, never really heard all of those 'incidents' pulled together like that...

#magicalThinking spoils everything...

@mbpaz @isol @GayDeceiver Ahh, yes. Saul the Apostate tax collector.

The Roman Era L. Ron Hubbard.

@mbpaz @isol @GayDeceiver Reminds of the best ever radio phone-in call in British history-

Caller: I wasn’t a supporter of Brexit, but I changed my mind completely after something happened to me a few months ago.
Nigel Farage: That’s great to hear! What happened to you?
Caller: I got kicked in the head by a horse.
Farage:
Farage:
Farage: Goodbye!

@isol

People are suckers for stories in which someone overcomes something, and if that person is clever enough to invoke The Devine Whatever, they start flocking to that person.

@GayDeceiver

@isol was brought up SDA and didn't know that story (or maybe i've happily forgotten it. Doesn't surprise me though. @GayDeceiver

The worst thing the powerful, old, white men ever did with religion was convince others they couldn't find divinity within themselves - because humans are 'too broken' - and that the divine can only be found externally.

At least, that's what the mushrooms told me. 🍄✌️

@GayDeceiver @TheBreadmonkey

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To be fair, a lot of the early followers apparently thought their boy Josh was coming back soon.

@GayDeceiver i dont know...you sound.quite deceptive...and gay.

(Now to get serious and not make user name jokes)
A lot of that stuff was added later, but they all accept it as coming from "god"

{Starts talking in giberish nonsense}

[Hi this is the person behind her, its not giberish, what shes speaking is a super rare sumerian latin Dutch dialect, and i just happen to speak it, what it means is "god is telling his children to shut the fuck up for a whole 10 years ]

:p

@GayDeceiver Renegade Cut did a masterful video on this, the Left Behind series, and how all of that infected US politics.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hRxN1DXmSdA

Left Behind and the Translation of God | Renegade Cut

YouTube

@GayDeceiver

I didn't even knew about it. (But I'm a french catholic.)

And "Sodom and Gomorrah" being a "proof that homosexuality is a sin" was inserted around the same time by a new Bible translation. In Germany if I remember correctly.

It is really recent.

Before that, the sin of Sodom and Gomorra was systematical rape of foreigners by big groups of men of the city. On men, women and children.

I personally think the mix up between "homosexuality" and "pedophilia" started at the same time, allowing the "mistranslation".

(and witch hunts started at the Rennaissance, witches were generally tolerated by the church in the middle age)

@sous_mon_masque @GayDeceiver

It's weird that the sins of Sodom and Gomorrah got so blatantly rewritten and people just accepted it, because Ezekiel addresses those sins more explicitly:

Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.

@GayDeceiver

Usual Christian fundamentalist BS. Based on... 3 verses in the book of apocalypse if I remember correctly?

Edit: it's called "Revelations" in English. I knew that. Bad Parade! Bad!

@ParadeGrotesque @GayDeceiver

The opening of Revelation says that it is about stuff that is going to happen "soon."

"Soon" is an extremely elastic concept in Christian eschatology.