Eniko Fox
I dont know why but I couldn't stop having -Z be forward so in the end I had to flip the Z axis for any translation and I probably fucked something up somewhere but I couldn't figure it out and i ran out of patience ๐
Ok I guess I was assuming XNA and DirectX used the same handedness but apparently XNA is right handed even though DirectX is left handed and I'd like to take this opportunity to ask *what the fuck*
So if I want +Z to be forward I have to flip the axis in the renderer? That's obnoxious. But better than -Z being forward in world space since that would confuse the shit out of players
ok one more before i head to bed just to show that it can do more interesting things than just large rectangles made up of smaller cubes
i've been thinking about making this game for like a decade lmao
Lucas Moura@eniko I'm curious about how BIG is the "list of games I want to make" is
Adam CafollaThat gives me hope that maybe someday I'll make all the games I'm thinking about making.
@adaliabooks this is only one in a long list, to be fair >_>
Yeah but at least it's one that you are doing something with... I've just got a long list of ideas where the most work I've ever put towards them is joting some stuff down and maybe creating a project that I never do anything with.
ๅ@eniko Iโm surprised we havenโt seen more block games. Especially ones that are games and not just mostly a sandbox.
So many genres are just overflowing, with releases pretty much monthly. But games where you can change the whole world arenโt very common. Especially not where you have to make up your own goals etc.
@yon block games are surprisingly difficult to make in terms of technical complexity. It's easy enough to display some voxel terrain but turning that into a game with a smooth gameplay experience is something else entirely, especially since multiplayer is basically expected now
@eniko Feels like thereโs always someone crazy enough to try. From an indie with an idea to a CEO with no idea (how did Sony waste all that money on living games without spending any time figuring if it appealed to more than a few hundred people?).
As you say, nailing it isnโt easy. Since I havenโt tried itโs more than likely even more difficult than I think (this goes for most big development with unknowns, easy to miss a lot that needs done).
But Iโm curious if why we arenโt seeing more attempts. Or they might just be fading into the noise.
Combining an old school god game like populous with a block engine could be a fun idea. :)
so @Farbs said something about beveling the edges in my block game and that got me thinking and looking at some old 2D terrain art i did
i'm thinking i may stray from minecraft's aesthetics a bit and use this as a sort of style guide
okay so this may seem a little unorthodox but bear with me here
what if
shell texturing in block game
Can't decide if using shell texturing is a great idea or a stupid idea
i feel like i could soften the terrain significantly through no more than normals along the edges of blocks so i made this mockup in photoshop and i think this could actually work?
corners would still look kinda pointy but ยฏ\_(ใ)_/ยฏ
if i kind of artfully place the camera to cut out the cornflower blue void surrounding this tiny chunk of terrain on all sides its almost starting to look like a real game :D
Efi (nap pet) ๐ฆ๐ค@eniko stone time?
alina cyborg mouse 
@eniko oh that looks good. is one aspect that they have to be escapable without tools (always one spot where jumpin will get you up) or is that incidental?
@0 that's incidental. you can always dig your way out
though i intend to generate dungeon structures that do need an entrance/exit eventually but those will use different more refined procedural generation
MrL314 ๐ (#SMKDX)
Elton Carvalho@eniko couldn't tou treat the corners explicitly?
McMartin@eniko Reminding me far too much of my old graphics classes here; I definitely recall using this trick to make icosahedrons look more like spheres. The real danger with big blocks like this, IIRC, is that you end up looking less "round" and more "Goraud-shaded lighting on blocks that actually looks OK"
Krishean Draconis@eniko could always leave it up to the end user and have a toggle for it, but then you run into the default on or default off conundrum
Dave?@eniko I mean it looks neat but it somewhat adds visual noise.
Can it have flowers or maybe lower grass spots or is that a huge amount of scope creep?
Oblomov@eniko sounds pretty stupid to me. Why would you use the shell to provide texturing? Does it offer anything over C#?
@eniko Itโs a great idea until it isnโt, and that time might not come. Iโd say run with it a bit.
sarah tonin 
@eniko i think it looks neat
a few of mc mods updating graphics use shell texturing on places like vines or grass, though most just use partial cubes instead, constant face count
Jen - mangledPixel@eniko Nice thing about this is that it's the sort of thing that should be easy to ramp off over distance if performance becomes an issue.
@mangled_pixel oh yeah good point!
Ronflaix@eniko overdraw my love
@eniko I think anything making it not look like a Minecraft copy is a good thing. A different art style makes a big difference.
Olivier
fabiosantoscode@fabiosantoscode @Farbs I'm not sure I'd be able to pull off the half blocks in that art, to be fair
Belghast@eniko imagining the plonk plonk plonk sounds in my head of placing those
@eniko *punches it*
Minecraft Grass Breaking Sounds 1 Hour
j_bertolotti@eniko It's grass all the way down!
Cat ๐๐ฅ (D.Burch) 
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monkee 
@eniko Green Imperial Destroyer 
@eniko just needs a worldgen with a sprinkling of perlin noise
Nikita Lisitsa
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Chip Collier@eniko X+ forward, Y+ left, Z+ up. Embrace the true coordinate system.
thomastc | frozenfractal
Alexander The 1st
Khalid โก@eniko Wait till the direction is based on AI hands. ๐คฃ