Now I really feel unsafe to fly. Seriously. I was debating a flight to a conference next month. This made my decision for me. I am canceling. Sorry United. You'd better protest. Stop them. Stop them NOW!
@jeffjarvis
As I am sitting in an airport waiting for my flight...🤦‍♀️
@hannahshouse2 @jeffjarvis Hope your flight lands before they start.

@jeffjarvis On jeez. #SafetyCritical #software is not something to just screw around with.

Somebody help the #FAA

@NiftyLinks @jeffjarvis They really don't care. The entire country is now a beta test for them.
@julescelt01 @NiftyLinks @jeffjarvis the fact they never jailed musk for his fraudulent self driving bullshit is just one more paving stone for this path we're on

@jeffjarvis lots of outages already. I suspect they have already been tinkering this is a screenshot from @JetTip which reports on various outages including FAA data streams they are dependent on.

EDIT: Apparently these outages are normal.

@User47 @jeffjarvis that's par for the course; intermittent outages like that have been happening since we've started using FAA data directly.

@jeffjarvis

JFC!

Who are the "DOGE team"? What are they plugging in? Where did the upgrade come from? What testing has been done? What is the upgrade supposed to do?

Based on what little we know, IMO, it's likely cloning data and sending it to Musk. It won't *help* anything, only open American aviation to hacking.

@TCatInReality @jeffjarvis
Oh shit, is he still mad about @elonjet ?
FAA bans employees from attending hearings on making air travel safer: report

The Federal Aviation Administration has reportedly banned its employees from attending advisory panels set up to explore how to make air travel safer, Politico reported on Tuesday.A new directive issued to FAA employees says they “should not attend (in-person or virtually) … until further notice,” a...

Raw Story

@clintruin
If people are involved, they won't be able to make all the efficiency improvements they need, cluttering up discussions with demands for oxygen and other luxuries.

@RnDanger @TCatInReality @jeffjarvis @elonjet

@RnDanger
Might be the FAA investigation on his Starship launch.
@TCatInReality @jeffjarvis My first expectation? Blocking all public flight data so the private jet trackers no longer are a bother for the techbros. 😒
@zombie042 @TCatInReality @jeffjarvis agreed, that's likely a goal of theirs. However, best of luck preventing every RF hobbyist with a $40 SDR from crowdsourcing reception of ADS-B directly from aircraft. Of course, if there's no one left to hold billionaires accountable, maybe private jets will just start switching off those transponders...
@zombie042 @TCatInReality @jeffjarvis
That is EXACTLY what this is all about. Now they can 100% block those flight-tracking accounts on all platforms, and not just twitter.
@exthemius @zombie042 @TCatInReality @jeffjarvis Unless a pilot turns off their transponder, it can't be blocked. The ADS-B signals (which are used for those tracker apps) from the transponders are easily received by any hobbyist with inexpensive equipment.
@conor @zombie042 @TCatInReality @jeffjarvis Ah, I see — learn something new everyday! Thanks Conor for the clarification.

@exthemius Technically they *could* prevent social media accounts posting, but the info is available to anyone who wants it, so it would be a game of whack-a-mole I reckon.

(Side note: receiving ADS-B signals is a really fun weekend project if you're nerd-inclined! 🤓)

@zombie042 @TCatInReality @jeffjarvis

@TCatInReality
And XI laughed and laughed and laughed...
@TCatInReality I saw them described on You tube as the Twittler youth , funny but I suspect true young people who are smart but whose main qualification is being in awe of him , obeying his every order and happy to work his 120 hour week

@LynMhairi

Yes, and from wealthy enough homes that they can afford to work for free ...thereby insulating them from understanding the reality of the people who need the programs they cut.

@TCatInReality @jeffjarvis These are the little nazis we are talking about here.

@TCatInReality @jeffjarvis @StillIRise1963 I’ve heard somewhere that Musk wants to feed all of the data into some giant AI model

I’m sure this will end well

@jeffjarvis it will be fun in 20 years to point at the crash data and have folks blame anything but Emperor Trump

@jeffjarvis if there was any doubt until now they are trying to take over the government

A #coup IS IN PROGRESS

@jeffjarvis Nope. Not flying United.
United Breaks Guitars

YouTube

@jeffjarvis

Long-planned international flight Saturday. I've been telling friends that it feels like a really uneasy time to be leaving the country. That was before the script kiddie clown show got hold of the reins. If I die in a plane crash, avenge me.

@jeffjarvis Yep, feeling even BETTER about upcoming travel. Thanks universe, I hate it.
@jeffjarvis What, you don't trust a bunch of 22-year-old, untrained incels who know nothing about flight safety with your life? 😂
@BruceMirken To be fair, DOGE has 'Efficiency' in the name, not safety.
@makeitmakesense That makes me feel so much safer! 😬
@makeitmakesense @BruceMirken But if it did? Department of Government Safety - DOGS! Who doesn’t like dogs?
@VirginiaHolloway @makeitmakesense @BruceMirken who? Well, the Canadian Aviation Transport Service.
@jeffjarvis
I also noticed @elonjet has been suspiciously quiet recently. Is this because Elon has been hiding the information, or is it because he's been riding a government plane instead of his personal jet?

@jeffjarvis Any time before the last couple of weeks I'd say this was an overreaction, that even terrible policy- and decision- makers at the top of agencies are pretty far removed from safety critical and operational systems, with damage (or improvements) only visible over the longer term.

Not anymore. Glad I've got no trips scheduled for a while.

@mattblaze @jeffjarvis
What will the super wealthy do? Can they create a shadow air traffic control system that they themselves trust?

Even if you John Travolta yourself a private runway big enough to land a 747 right outside your front door, it won't fix the problem when, say, you want to visit Las Vegas. (And the flying private set *really* seems to love Las Vegas)

@kims @mattblaze @jeffjarvis Apparently trump tweeted (posted? truthed?) that his plane uses a superior air traffic control system from another country... So I guess he thinks its a machine under the hood of his plane, not a system that coordinates the locations of multiple airplanes at once 🤦🏾‍♀️
@rejinl @kims @jeffjarvis It seems improbably ill informed, but there's really no other way to parse what he wrote.
@mattblaze @rejinl @jeffjarvis
He still thinks stealth planes are literally invisible, so...
CD310: Red Flags at Air Traffic Control - Congressional Dish

67 people died this week in a mid-air collision between a military helicopter and a passenger plane in Washington DC. The investigation into this crash is

Congressional Dish

@jeffjarvis Taking bets on the first promised timeframe estimate for FULL SELF FLYING

I got $50 on "within 18 months"

@jeffjarvis @ai6yr

My time of flying as little as possible is certainly coming to a middle.

@jeffjarvis so, unwillingly, the DOGE team is helping the energy transition

@jeffjarvis

Addressed just to Americans, I assume. The rest of us just have to not fly to America. And believe, me, we are all cancelling travel plans already, even the ones by car.

Hey! If you leave America, and don't come back, you'll be safe from their airplanes!

@RoyBrander @jeffjarvis @artemis FWIW I gave up on the US as an international destination after 2001. The security theatre is bad enough outside the US, I sure as heck never wanted (or want) to deal with the TSA there…
@RoyBrander @jeffjarvis While this saddens me, I totally understand, and if I didn’t live here I would not come here either. It just isn’t safe anymore.
@jeffjarvis
So now he wants to do something for climate protection by making flying unattractive? An astonishing turn of events.🤔
@elala @jeffjarvis Shades of "Ministry of the Future".

@jeffjarvis
Hi, somehow the text of your post ended up in the Alt-Text.

Here's the correct #ALT4you :
Tweet from Secretary Sean Duffy: "Big News - Talked to the DOGE team. They are going to plug in to help upgrade our aviation system." Posted at 1:37pm on February 5, 2025, 212.3K views

@jeffjarvis I'm constantly being amazed these days by the total and unending hubris displayed by these folks.

'OH, it can't be that complicated. It's just software. And I'm a quick learner. What are you worried about? Two or three days and we'll have you running so smoothly you'll wonder why you never invited us in before this.'

@jeffjarvis what kind of brainless reprobate can't announce this simply as "Big news - more corruption!"???
@jeffjarvis Again, this is why for the foreseeable future I intend on driving everywhere I can.

@jeffjarvis There’s good reason it’s said that aviation regulations are written in blood. Hard lessons learned, paid for with the ultimate price.

Understanding why things are done in certain ways takes a huge investment of time and effort - and there are real world examples of people dying because lessons were missed.

Bringing in a bunch of people on the wrong side of the Dunning-Kruger curve to change things has only one possible outcome.

@adam_caudill @jeffjarvis This is no different than Tesla FSD. The move fast and break things crowd are sociopaths, they have no regard for the people who are impacted by their games. And they're taking advantage of the destruction of the regulatory state to play with our lives.

@jeffjarvis

I gave up on flying in America two decades ago when the Patriot Act came around. My last was on a small passenger plane with hardly any headroom so that you had to bend over to get into your seat, and all you could really do was sit there.

Trains take longer, but there's much more space on it.