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JA WestenbergThe world's richest man is a Nazi. The evidence is right in front of us. To argue anything else is disingenuous to the point of collaborationism.
To my mind, there is only one question.
What are we going to do about it?
holga@Daojoan I know not few people who even a few years ago cheered musk on, identified with him, especially in tech circles. Many "technologists" believe they are immune to fascist thought while not realizing how Ayan Rand's thinking played and plays a sizable ideological role in the minds of current tech billionaires, and it's much about supremacist ideology, a core foundation of fascist identities. Tech people are actually very susceptible to it I'd wager.
Alanna 🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️@hpk @Daojoan I think a lot of tech people like the idea of Anarchism and/or Libertarianism (which is far broader than Ayn Rand) but become enamoured by Objectivism, which is just one mid 20th century interpretation of Libertarianism.
Like, in my early twenties I was very into some of Rand's stuff. Then I grew up and realized I'm actually more of an anarchist. Musk reminds me of the horrible person I could be if I hadn't grown up from the person I was in my late teens/early twenties.
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Gentleman Technologist@hpk @Daojoan technologists are not a single group.
The old-skool Hacker mindset (as expressed in the Hacker Manifesto) is very anti-authoritarian and anti-commercial. These are the creative people who built the internet and champion Open Source as a cause. Aaron Schwartz was probably the archetype
The newer "techbro" mindset is focused on money not creativity. These are the fascism-prone idiots you're talking about. Peter Thiel is probably the archetype. The whole cryptocurrency scene is this
James 🦉 #FBPE 🇪🇺
Monospace Mentor@Daojoan I don't have an answer to your question. And I wonder how to best contribute to finding one!
Factress
Nicolas Fournier@Daojoan
Collectively we never learnt from our mistakes...
Hitler's millionaire backers: how Germany's elite facilitated the rise of the Nazis
Stephan Malinowski tells Rob Attar how a cocktail of naked opportunism and misplaced arrogance among Germany’s most powerful men facilitated the rise of the Third Reich | Accompanies the three-part BBC Two series The Rise of the Nazis
Sune AukenFine piece. Thank you for sharing.
Elf Burgerman@Daojoan Looks like you're not in favour of giving him the silent treatment...
tnlogy@Daojoan Bojcott his companies. But what to do about the B-movie villains nazis-in-space? Watch Iron Sky and start to wonder what he will do on the dark side of the moon.
zaunkoenig@Daojoan To answer your question: Leave the country. (I'm German.)
Dolan McElmurry@Daojoan ship him back to Russia and with Garbage man also(Trump) they both belong there
Jon@Daojoan a lot of us already don't support his companies, for example I don't use X, have a Tesla or use Starlink. And suspect I'm not the only one!
@Daojoan Many German nationals have said he would have been arrested on the spot!!! But we know that tge nazi party has grown so large and bold here, in the US, and our laws protect them. I WANTED Bidens ICE to have arrested him and processed him for deportation at a minimum for lying to gain citizenship. Nationalize his companies. Prosecute him for election interference. TOO LATE NOW.
Boris Nikitashov@Daojoan I think you’re going to cry. That is all
Drey@Daojoan - To me Elon Musk is a Copycat showing off to the public. Agreed the man is a Nazi.
tivasyk@Daojoan please fix: «men», not «man». thank you!
PK@Daojoan We should be careful with calling somebody a Nazi as circumstances are different & opposition to it grows even more by accusations; but for sure we can compare what in their behavior is similar or even same - EXPLAINING is BETTER than simple accusing / name-calling!? Latter is the same what right-wing /-extremist people do, then our level of standards is not any different to theirs.
Ian Robinson@PKrp @Daojoan The latest episode of Origin Story Podcast is worth listening to. As are their previous episodes on Fascism. See https://www.podmasters.co.uk/origin-story
Direct link: https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/origin-story/id1624704966?i=1000684864354
@ianRobinson @Daojoan Thank you very much, really good, makes clear how right-wing / -extremists always find excuses for their bad behavior as #ElonMusk, especially his blind followers & like #Trump - they are ALWAYS completely INNOCENT whatever they do, the true „VICTIMS“ & we critics are the real „BAD“ / mean ones! GASLIGHTNING in PERFECTION by radicals & their naive-dumb-uneducated followers.
Stevie Inghram, ND, MS@Daojoan People should probably get rid of their Tesla’s to start. Like get rid of that shit.
Steffi the Redhead@Daojoan ... and you fell for his distraction.
How many times will you fall during this term?
What atrocities will you overlook because you fell for a distraction?
Clinton Anderson SwordForHireLeather jacket, fedora, cross worn satchel... The uniform of The Resistance
#EatTheRich
#EatTheBroligarchy
#MakeBillionaresTerrifiedAgain
#MakeCEOsAfraidAgain
#FreeLuigi
#BeLuigi
#NeverVoteConservative
Ozzy@Daojoan some will try to do something but not enough of us will.
'Power to the People' yes we have the power to direct progressive democratic political parties, and such, to do better but very few of us use that power.
'Power to the People' yes we have the power to direct progressive democratic political parties, and such, to do better but very few of us use that power.
a fish named dog ✡️♾️@Daojoan If it walks like a Nazi and talks like a Nazi, there is actually a depressingly low chance it's Elon Musk because there are a lot of Nazis.
@Daojoan I've seen a lot of posts saying we should just ignore him, but that's part of the problem. We need to keep up the outrage and mockery. It's the only thing that chips away at his ego.
David McLain@Daojoan two things we can do: Don’t let anyone spin this incident, and don’t buy a Tesla.
Andrew Wippler
AlexanderMars@AlexanderMars @Daojoan @rolle Yeah, but I would not dare to label him an evil genius. Do you have better wording?
Robert Cooper@Daojoan The same thing we did about Henry Ford.
Nothing.
Reese Ricci Armstrong 
@Daojoan We are going to organize to win, and take back control of our world. Brings me back to the rallying cry, "are you ready to fight for someone you don't know"
For me, I'm going to continue being an active member of the Democratic Socialists of America. I love being involved in organizations that take active steps to change the political system and are effective, but the work thats right for you is different for everyone, just do *something*
See you on the picket line and solidarity 🫡
@Daojoan I asked ChatGPT how to deal with nazis and https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuremberg_executions
Jaap-Henk Hoepman 🟥 ⬜️ 🟩 ⬛️@Daojoan @briankrebs Simple. Stop buying or using his shit.
Matthew@Daojoan excellent article
Coopdebill@Daojoan make bumper stickers. put one on every parked Tesla you can find
@Daojoan if you would watch the video. He was giving his heart out to crowd
Anton HunterAs someone looking anxiously on from the UK (and seeing Leon meddling in politics across the globe), I would also like to know what we can do about it all!
@Daojoan @briankrebs
Volkswagen Beetles and Teslas are both styled without Grilles in the front.
Coincidence?
psh@Daojoan What, Bernard Arnault is a Nazi?
Scarlimange
Dieu@Daojoan a case for Uncle SAM
@Daojoan Hello, this is my first post here, been lurking since summer. Sorry for staying bit anonymous, that this profile of mine(or how do you call it here) is still without any info of any kind ... want/wanted to stay low for now, I was thinking this to probably be my throwaway acct. Anyway, didn't read thru all of the replies ... been w/o the netiquete on that one too. Sorry. ... but I just I couldn't stay put i.e. quiet and not respond to this massive - I don't know how to call it - echo 1/2
@Daojoan ... in an echo chamber you people've been creating on account of this Elon Musk thing and especially the Nazi salute and all. You seem to be forgetting one thing I think. I mean, I'm in a part of the world, which is currently also facing some troublesome times. Maybe even more than yours ... no war there or famine or smth, don't worry... that's my bias probably, but I couldn't help notice that some of you who were/'ve been creating this echo chamber (how I see it and call it) are... 2/4
@Daojoan ... forgetting that Mr Musk is something on how is it called : on a spectrum ... wasn't there some acronym ADHD, or something like that was used to denigrate him. This spectrum, ADHD (if that's the word) is his somthing-somethng circumstances (nonNativeEnglish). It's not totally his fault he had been neglected, or at least, not been alleviated with his difficulty. At least the way i see it, beside all his imensive power he has and exerts, still a man with difficulties in a dimension 3/4
@Daojoan ... of a person's life. At least Afaik, regarding the spectrum thing. Sorry for the additional third and fourth unplanned part, awaiting your fire and brimstone on this contribution of mine 🥴🙂 I've been really enjoying the atmosphere here for now, but this thing's been bothering me and didn't know what was it. And I think it was the feeling of an echo in a pleasant chamber but without making my hello i.e. responding my mind of echo back to you. Cheers all, hope you like a hello back 4/4
JohnnieMac@Daojoan watch for it: they will go after things they don’t currently control, I.e., Wikipedia, diverse, and internet archive, to name the first in line. Support and protect them.