Welcome to the #CrossBorderRail Mystery Trains Days Thread

Today: Berlin - Karlsruhe - Wörth/Rhein - Lauterbourg - Strasbourg - Haguenau
Tomorrow: Haguenau - Reichshoffen - Strasbourg - Offenburg - Freiburg (Breisgau) - Berlin

Crossing these borders:
Berg (Pfalz) 🇩🇪 - Lauterbourg 🇫🇷
Kehl 🇩🇪 - Krimmeri-Meinau 🇫🇷

But that's not the point of this trip... I am instead going looking for cross border trains, not checking infrastructure

Here’s today’s intro video

Why am I going to Lauterbourg and Reichshoffen?

https://peertube.netzbegruenung.de/w/44CHPH8MU8EJyKVaUhxSig

#CrossBorderRail South East Europe 2024 - 7/31/2024, 4:33:38 AM

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Calm, sunny Tempelhofer Feld en route to Berlin Hbf this morning

#CrossBorderRail 2024 Mystery Trains Days
Train 1/10

ICE 73
07:23 Berlin Hbf
13:09 Karlsruhe Hbf
705.8km
122km/h
DB Fernverkehr

Train type: ICE 4 long version
⚡️
🚲: ✅ (needs reservation)
🦽: ✅ (lift on board and stations have backup ramps)
🛜: ✅
🍽️: ✅
🧳: 🙂
🧽: 😐 (clean outside, but wasn’t cleaned overnight inside)

I think DB fetched a different train out of the depot this morning as it hasn’t been cleaned

That also means reservation signs seem to be wrong (I took what looked like a free seat, but it was reserved)

Pro tip if travelling without a reservation: use Comfort Check In in DB Navigator. It won’t let you check in if a seat is actually reserved

Von der Leyen's second attempt at single-ticket rail travel

European Commission President Ursula Von der Leyen promised single-ticket rail travel across the continent in

EURACTIV

I’m going to have to write an explainer

It’s obvious to many people what’s broken - EU wide train ticket booking doesn’t work as well as it should

But where it’s better or worse, why this is the case, why the industry alone will not fix this, and what to do about it are all poorly understood

This is WHY the Commission should act https://jonworth.eu/note-to-the-new-eu-transport-commissioner-fixing-cross-border-rail-ticketing-will-help-millions-of-europeans-and-can-secure-your-legacy/

Note to the new EU Transport Commissioner: fixing cross border rail ticketing will help millions of Europeans, and can secure your legacy - Jon Worth

Dear 2024 nominee for European Commissioner for Transport, Congratulations on your nomination. Being Transport Commissioner is a massive challenge, and an enormous privilege. As pretty much all of us living in the EU use some sort of transport every day, what you do is going to have an impact on […]

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And in spring I wrote a detailed and long report about European rail ticketing - that has a bunch of case studies about what needs fixing https://jonworth.eu/a-report-for-jakop-dalunde-mep-and-a-follow-up-event-about-rail-and-multimodal-ticketing-in-the-eu/

The political context has changed a bit since then, but the practical issues remain the same

A report for Jakop Dalunde MEP and a follow up event about rail and multimodal ticketing in the EU

I was commissioned by Jakop Dalunde, MEP from Miljöpartiet de gröna (Greens/EFA), to write a report about the ongoing challenges to fix multimodal and especially railway ticketing problems EU-wide. The report - entitled "Simplifying European Ticketing – A chance for a green transformation of public and multimodal transport in the

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Back to today's project... going to find the cross border Régiolis trains parked up rusting

Rheinland Pfalz now only sees the new contract for operations in place from December 2027! 😡 https://www.zoepnv-sued.de/projekte/grand-est (right at the bottom)

That's a full 3 years later than planned, and means the trains will only run 8 years after being ordered, and 6 years after the first one was delivered. FFS

ZÖPNV Süd

Ok, the approval of these cross border Régiolis trains

They're notionally class Z85500, can also be known as Régiolis and Coradia Polyvalent, built by an Alstom works that got taken over by CAF

But I find no approval of them in the ERA ERATV database: https://eratv.era.europa.eu/Eratv/Search

Someone who knows this better than me - @partim maybe? - is there something I am missing to find an approval?

Or could EBA still approve these for Germany?

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Damn rail reporting is full of 💩

“Das Besondere an den neuen Triebwagen: Sie verfügen über eine Mehrsystemtechnik, mit der sie elektrisch fahren und nicht elektrifizierte Teilstücke mit Dieselantrieb überbrücken können. 40 Mio. Euro hat die Entwicklung des neuen Fahrzeugtyps gekostet, welche die Projektpartner gemeinsam stemmen.”

Eh come on

Geneva has Régiolis that can do 15kV
France has dozens of electro-diesel Régiolis *for a decade*

So all these FR-DE Régiolis do is combine these two

Meanwhile my trip is going to 💩 in Frankfurt

The Riedbahn is closed for works

My train was meant to take the diversion via Darmstadt

But 💥 something has hit a bridge, part closing that line… so we’re going on the even longer detour via Worms instead

I’ll get to Lauterbourg eventually 🙂

How many sides of Mainz would you like to see?

DB: yes

Ah this is what has buggered everything up https://www.presseportal.de/blaulicht/pm/14915/5834425

A truck has hit a bridge on the rail line to Darmstadt

POL-MA: Weinheim/ Rhein-Neckar-Kreis: Lkw im Suezkanalweg festgefahren - PM Nr. 1

Weinheim/ Rhein-Neckar-Kreis (ots) - Da sich nach ersten Erkenntnissen ein Lkw gegen 10:45 Uhr unter einer Unterführung im Suezkanalweg festgefahren haben soll, kommt es dort...

Presseportal.de

A passenger was just really rude to a DB staff member here about the delay

It was a 🛻 striking a bridge! You can’t blame DB here! FFS

#CrossBorderRail 2024 Mystery Trains Days
Train 2/10

RB 51 (12432)
14:34 Karlsruhe Hbf
14:52 Wörth(Rhein)
13.2km
44km/h
DB Regio AG Mitte

Train type: Talent DMU 3 carriages
⛽️
🚲: ✅ (lots of space)
🦽: ❓ (entry too low in Karlsruhe you’d need some ramp inside - how?)
🛜: ⛔️
🍽️: ⛔️
🧳: 🙂 (lots of space, multi use areas)
🧽: 😐 (grimy and worn)

No puns. The umlaut makes all the difference. #CrossBorderRail

Deluxe #CrossBorderRail

🦽 ❌
❄️ ❌

But
🚲 ✅
⏰ Stundentakt ✅

#CrossBorderRail 2024 Mystery Trains Days
Train 3/10

RB 52 (81471)
15:19 Wörth(Rhein)
15:36 Lauterbourg
12.5km
44km/h
DB Regio AG Mitte

Train type: 628 DMU, 2 carriages
⛽️
🚲: ✅
🦽: ⛔️
🛜: ⛔️
🍽️: ⛔️
🧳: 🙂
🧽: 🙂 (it’s old but neat)

And yes, a knackered non disabled accessible DMU is being used for the #CrossBorderRail service here - because the new trains ordered… aren’t running yet

And might well not run for some time

Which is exactly why I’m here

Ah. The road German side is being resurfaced. But the tobacco shop is open. So that’s ok.

So…

13 (of the 30) 4 carriage brand new Régiolis trains for France-Germany #CrossBorderRail operation found parked up at Lauterbourg

#CrossBorderRail 2024 Mystery Trains Days
Train 4/10

TER30735
17:40 Lauterbourg
18:38 Hoenheim
c 50km
c 52km/h
SNCF for TER Grand Est Fluo

Train type: Régiolis bi-mode 4 carriages
⛽️
🚲: ✅
🦽: ❓ (train is fine but stations barely have platforms)
🛜: ⛔️
🍽️: ⛔️
🧳: 🙂
🧽: 🙂

I’m back in the Balkans. Ah no sorry. Alsace. #CrossBorderRail

And I know why it’s called Bienenwaldbahn 🐝

There are lots of bees in the flowers on the track! 🙂

#CrossBorderRail

Edit: oops it’s the Bienwaldbahn. Not Bienen. My name is better 🙂 Thanks @giggls for the correction though!

Gambsheim. Used to be a nice station. #CrossBorderRail
This Lauterbourg - Strasbourg line is infuriating. The speed is ok - it serves a lot of small towns. But most of the stations are awful and not accessible and the trains too irregular… so rail doesn’t have the modal share it deserves here! #CrossBorderRail
Oh hello ought to be abolished seat of the EP #CrossBorderRail

#CrossBorderRail 2024 Mystery Trains Days
Train 5/10

TER830568
21:10 Strasbourg
21:47 Haguenau
33.9km
?km/h (wasn’t meant to take it!)
SNCF for TER Grand Est Fluo

Train type: Régiolis Bi-Mode 6 carriages
⚡️initially, ⛽️ later
🚲: ✅
🦽: ✅ (step free)
🛜: ⛔️
🍽️: ⛔️
🧳: 🙂
🧽: 🙂

Classic SNCF logo discovered earlier. Port du Rhin. #CrossBorderRail
For those asking about the details of the Régiolis discovered earlier #CrossBorderRail

Today and tomorrow for #CrossBorderRail I’m using my spare Birdy

It’s in better condition than my main one, the expedition rack with Vaude bags works well, but it has hub gears and back pedal brakes - not my favourite for touring

But given it cost me just €150 I can’t complain (I added extras costing probably €80)

#CrossBorderRail South East Europe 2024 - 7/31/2024, 8:46:12 PM

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And damn I’m tired and annoyed

How the HELL do France and Germany manage to spend €376 million of public money on 30 #CrossBorderRail trains but LEAVE THEM SITTING AROUND - and possibly for another 3 and a half years! - rather than RUNNING THEM?

Ok. New day. Calm morning. So I’ll cycle Haguenau - Reichshoffen instead of taking the train #CrossBorderRail

Let’s see how many Régiolis I find today! 🙂

They parked the dead car in the right place! 🙂 Gundershoffen
Charming abandoned station south of Uddenhofen

The Régiolis hunt continues

I need to check all the pics but I think I’ve identified 7 more here in Reichshoffen

So that’s 2/3 of the 30 strong fleet I’ve located

Edit: no, there was 1 more. 8 in Reichshoffen. So that’s 21 total I’ve located

@jon that does not look like a two flower village 🌸 🌸
@jon "ville fleurie" but nobody brought flowers to the car grave 😥😥
@jon An oil change and some injector cleaner and it'll sail through its CT.
@jon This pure fact is infuriating, really, but it's even more infuriating knowing that nobody will take responsibilty, let alone being forced to resign due to this.
@jon Now I wonder what partially electrifying and upgrading e.g. Wörth - Strasbourg and using some standard BEMU would've cost. Especially since RLP is already going to use Akku-Flirts from 2025 on adjacent lines.
@onterof Flirt has no approval for France. So that solution would be more costly.

@jon >LEAVE THEM SITTING AROUND - and possibly for another 3 and a half years!

Wait wait. What??!!

@jon https://infodujour.fr/societe/50925-regiolis-transfrontaliers-un-projet-ferroviaire-franco-allemand This article from 2021 suggests that it is completely following the plan if the trains enter service in 2025 (which month?).
Régiolis transfrontaliers : un projet ferroviaire franco-allemand

Une offre ferroviaire sans précédent, gage d’une coopération exemplaire.

Infodujour.fr
@RensBloom there are so many contradictory dates in articles you can’t believe any single one
ÖPNV-Dachmarke ROLPH in Rheinland-Pfalz vor dem Aus

ROLPH sollte den ÖPNV in Rheinland-Pfalz bekannter machen. Das Land hat Millionen investiert, um die Dachmarke für Mobilität zu etablieren. Jetzt steht sie vor dem Aus.

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@mahrko Its logo lives on on unused trains! 🎉
@jon The French red has to be #E1000F. And the German red #FF0000. But SNCF use the same red for both. 🥲
@mahrko was this SNCF’s choice though? The livery is a bit weird. Why so dark?
@jon To be honest the Tricolore looks more like the colours of Luxemburg 🇱🇺. 😄
@jon @mahrko I must say from the fotos I quite like it, and the flag thing is very clever.
@geeeero @mahrko not very heat effective in summer. But at least it’s neutral-ish, not excessively branded.
@geeeero @jon @mahrko Yeah, it's splendid. And flag colours aren't specified in HEX triplets but originally in just the heraldric colours and later in more advanced printing colour systems (CYMK, RAL or Pantone)
@jon 31 and 34... Does the entire set have the same number or is it just the rear ends that are numbered above 30? 🤔
@transpontus No. Each set has two consecutive numbers. So these were 31-32 and 33-34 (the ones I could get near at the port)
@jon collector, and much nicer than the current one…
@aloxe Yes. The station is long closed, hence why it survived.
@aloxe @jon I just recently saw the original TGV logo on one of the LCD destination displays next to the door of a TGV, don't remember what type though.
@IIVQ ah ah me too a few years ago but this was on purpose as the TGV 001 was visiting Czechia https://www.spravazeleznic.cz/vrt/tgv @jon
TGV v Česku - www.spravazeleznic.cz

@jon

Classic "deluded 2000s" style there, no? Not an architecture buff by far, but Wikipedia confirms my immediate impression: that this is not a good building 😁

Can't help but think that an institution being run from such a building probably hides some startling inefficiencies - while trying to look like they're facing the future head on (a purpose for which glass probably would not be the most appropriate material, if they only stopped to think for 2 seconds...)

@jon
Totally agree, horrific waste of money and time.
@jon It's so much nicer there though 😢 But I can understand that it's better to pool everything in Brussels
@jon For the full experience, you should have waited for the daily rotation of the old lowrider stainless steel push-pull trains.
@partim I think those are only deployed with electric locomotives to Sélestat now?
@jon There are apparently still two daily round trips to Lauterbourg but sadly not now during the summer holidays.
@partim still with a BB67400? I’m amazed they’re still kept and maintained!
@jon @partim last year at least. Sometimes even in original look without ads. 😁
@jon I guess they are a bit like the German 218.
@jon I hope it's Wörth the ride 
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No puns. The umlaut makes all the difference. #CrossBorderRail

gruene.social
@jon Well that didn't take long. Seems like I ignored all previous instructions just like the cool kids do 
@jon Bienwald might well be named after Bees.
@jon Do you perchance have a closeup of the labelling? The RIC grid looks a bit like it has more secondary countries than just D?