The Guardian asked hundreds of the world’s top climate scientists for their views on the most effective actions combating climate-ecological breakdown. The top 5 actions were:

1. Vote for representatives who pledge strong climate action.

2. Reduce flying and fossil fuel-powered transport in favour of electric and public transport.

3. Reduce meat consumption.

4. Reduce home heating or cooling emissions.

5. Join a campaign or protest group.

So... nothing about industry. It's all pushed back onto the consumer. Awesome.

@nigel @GeofCox
That's an exceptionally uncharitable interpretation, because the top one by far is "vote for representatives that would take action", and that's likely the only action that would meaningfully control industrial emissions.

It's hardly like the 90s where apparently the top thing you could do was "switch devices off standby".

@Rhodium103 @nigel @GeofCox
Finding a representative who wants action but has any influence it the hard bit. Look at the financial interests of the handful that actually wield power, and you'll see why they do nothing. Old adage, follow the money...
@GeofCox @nigel voting and protesting are all about pressuring the industry and nothing about "pushing onto the consumer"
My pint was you're making the consumer do your leg work to create that pressure; it's all up to the consumer to get I volved and create that pressure.

This feels like a giant roundabout to make us feel like we're doing something when the reality is it is futile. I'm not saying it is but it sure can feel that way.

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@GeofCox @nigel Companies will never voluntary choose to ask the government for stronger ecological protection, unless they are like in the solar panel business or something.
So yes it is the citizen duty to pressure their government, and no it is not futile.

@docRekd @nigel

Personally, I was very pleased to see voting, campaigning and protesting 1 and 5 in the list - I think it shows that scientists are NOT looking at action mainly in terms of isolated, individual consumers.

There was a great interview with the pioneering climate scientist Michael Mann yesterday - warning precisely of dangers like seeing polluters and/or capitalism as so pervasive and powerful nothing can be done.

"Doomism and defeatism today pose as much of a threat to climate action as outright denial. As the impacts of climate change become ever more obvious, it’s very difficult to credibly deny the problem. So, polluters have instead turned to other tactics in their efforts to block action. And among them is fanning the flames of doomism, for if we truly come to believe there is nothing we can do, then why try? That’s why I focus, in my outreach efforts, on both urgency and agency – and the science supports this."

https://www.newstatesman.com/spotlight/sustainability/climate/2024/05/michael-mann-defeatism-threat-climate-change-action-net-zero

Michael Mann: “Defeatism is as much of a threat as climate denial”

Michael E Mann is a climatologist and geophysicist, and is currently the director of the Centre for Science, Sustainability, and the Media at the University of Pennsylvania. His most recent book, Our

New Statesman
@nigel @GeofCox let's put it this way: if the government is so powerless, why are corps spending billions in lobbying? If voting is so useless, why spending so much in pr campaigns and #greenwashing?
@docRekd @nigel @GeofCox the oligarchs fear the masses. The French Revolution remains a lesson.

@docRekd @nigel @GeofCox

Same with advertising, if it doesn't work, why is so much spent on it?

@nigel @GeofCox Reducing meat production is litteraly onto industries...

@nigel @GeofCox Agreed.

Right, so I'm supposed to not air condition my otherwise sweatbox home which is only a sweatbox because of these corps? How exactly am I supposed to sleep or work?

@nigel @GeofCox I'm guessing that's bc the question relates to what "individuals" could do. If it were about what industry could do, that would have been the question.

@nigel @GeofCox It's also why the whole article should be shared, as this provides context..

"Many of the experts were clear on the limits. “It can only go so far. Deep, rapid cuts in carbon emissions from oil and gas, as well as other sectors such as transport, are needed, which are outside the control of the average individual."
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/09/what-are-the-most-powerful-climate-actions-you-can-take#:~:text=Individual%20action,-What%20do%20you&text=Everyone%20should%20%E2%80%9Ctalk%20about%20climate,also%20mentioned%20by%20multiple%20experts.

What are the most powerful climate actions you can take? The expert view

Voting tops the list for the world’s leading climate scientists in a year when billions of voters go to the polls

The Guardian
Ahh, thank you.
@Annekin @nigel @GeofCox ...unless that individual joins a union and organizes to create change. Unions gave us an 8-hour work day and countless other changes, they can support decarbonization too. 💪
Yeah I didn't read the question in the image initially, only the post text which omits that. My fault.

@nigel easily done. If I can, I always try and include a link to the article as well so as to avoid confusion. As I had read it, I knew there was a mention in the article of the limitations of individual Vs corporate action (so to speak).
@GeofCox As it turns out, they only listed five because #6 was "drown oil execs in barrels of their own product"
What are the most powerful climate actions you can take? The expert view

Voting tops the list for the world’s leading climate scientists in a year when billions of voters go to the polls

The Guardian
@GeofCox Yet no mention of offing fossil fuel CEOs or their political lapdogs, pour encourager les autres.

@GeofCox that feels wrong. Well, point 2 to 4 do.

Good to see the Guardian is falling still for the old BP trick: https://cz.boell.org/en/2023/07/26/individual-carbon-footprint-how-much-does-it-actually-matter designed to prevent meaningful change 👏

What we need is to force big changes in industry and energy infrastructure. And we need to start yesterday!

Corona and the war in Ukraine has shown how quickly industry can adapt when forced. Right now it feels little to no pressure of doing so about climate.

The Individual Carbon Footprint. How much does it actually matter? | Heinrich Böll Stiftung | Prague Office - Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary

Students from Charles University in Prague who participated in the HBS study trip on “Feminist and Climate Foreign Policy” in Berlin write about why it is important not to blame the climate crisis on individuals and their consumer choices

Heinrich Böll Stiftung | Prague Office - Czech Republic, Slovakia, Hungary
@GeofCox
Hardly systemic, but the question was "what can individuals do?"
I'd like to see the other Q and A's

@GeofCox pretty sad that these are the responses, when we can see what's killing our planet.

Not eating meat and not flying will make zero difference

@sortius @GeofCox

"The two big sources of greenhouse gas emissions are energy and food production. It’s sometimes argued that we should focus on one or the other. This is a false dichotomy. We cannot address climate change without moving away from fossil fuels [or] without tackling global food production. Even if we stopped emissions from fossil fuels right now, emissions from food production alone would take us well beyond the carbon budget for 1.5°C."

https://ourworldindata.org/food-emissions-carbon-budget

Emissions from food alone could use up all of our budget for 1.5°C or 2°C – but we have a range of opportunities to avoid this

If we want to meet our global climate targets we need to reduce greenhouse gas emissions from food. What options do we have?

Our World in Data

@sortius @GeofCox

“A vegan diet is probably the single biggest way to reduce your impact on planet Earth, not just greenhouse gases, but global acidification, eutrophication, land use and water use,” said Joseph Poore, at the University of Oxford

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impact-on-earth

Avoiding meat and dairy is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth

Biggest analysis to date reveals huge footprint of livestock - it provides just 18% of calories but takes up 83% of farmland

The Guardian
@GeofCox The real nr 1: burn capitalism !
@GeofCox
Oh conservatives won't like this. Less children means less child labor and less child brides. #RepublicansAreSick
@GeofCox the gap between the 1st and the rest is a canyon.
@GeofCox individual action. What a joke. These fuckers don’t give a shit.
@GeofCox what is good for replacing meat? They are energy storage that lasted a long time in the digestive system
@GeofCox seriously wondering why guillotines didn't make the list 🤔

@GeofCox

As points 2-5 seem to be unbearably for many, point 1 likely will not take place.

Hopefully science has some answers for "the days after".

@GeofCox meanwhile in the uk:
“Protest groups such as Just Stop Oil and Palestine Action could be banned in a similar way to terrorist organisations, under a proposal from the government’s adviser on political violence.”
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c2qv7425gvwo
'Extreme' protest groups face ban under proposal

A report will recommend proscribing "extreme" groups using criminal tactics to achieve their aims.

BBC News

@GeofCox Fine. But the top choice is an abdication of personal responsability.

Everyone has to look in the mirror.
And act.

@GeofCox we can reduce our consumption, and the industry will use the extra capacity to mine more bitcoin or generare more "AI", or any other rubbish production that will help them to siphon more money

@GeofCox Given that most of our emissions are generated by the few...

I am surprised that a revolution is not on that list.

@petros

I think at present that's covered by 5 in most places - Join a campaign or protest group. Anything that might deserve the description 'revolution' is I guess generally decades away, so perhaps, given the urgency they see, the scientists didn't think that qualified as 'effective action' !

@GeofCox

Agreed.

I live in Australia where the right-wing opposition just wants to start building nuclear reactors and the Labor government confirms that we will have a gas industry for much longer than 2050. That's their contribution for the next decades.

I am with you with 5.

I believe my own private "climate savings" are nothing without politics implementing a climate-friendly society.

@petros

Yes - that's the thing - the '5 most effective actions' are not mutually exclusive - I'm trying to do them all...

@GeofCox I'd pick the same top 5 but I'd put protesting at the top and add biking/ebiking to the transit one. They two synergize well and lots of places are straight up within biking distance. In my experience if you're not riding everyday you can charge an ebike using only solar power with something as simple as a light timer
@GeofCox asking people with climate guilt about fixing climate change and they don't mention seizing democratic control over privatized means of production? Disappointing, as the majority of people doesn't have the same *choice* these academics do... I'm gonna continue not owning a car and not eating meat, but asking people who have to take a car to their work b/c there's no public transport is a bit ludicrous.
@GeofCox I wonder if these were poll responses or tabulated from interview responses.
What are the most powerful climate actions you can take? The expert view

Voting tops the list for the world’s leading climate scientists in a year when billions of voters go to the polls

The Guardian

@GeofCox thank you very much. I now realise it states that it was a survey on the image you shared, too!

Makes sense, but I wonder if we'd have seen more radical responses without that guiding framework.

@GeofCox

Do you have a link to the Guardian article?

What are the most powerful climate actions you can take? The expert view

Voting tops the list for the world’s leading climate scientists in a year when billions of voters go to the polls

The Guardian

@GeofCox See also the pinned toot by @kathhayhoe as a great place to start.

🎙️ start a conversation about why climate change matters + what people can do
🤲 join a climate action group
💰 consider where you keep your money
💡spark ideas for change at work & school
🗳️ hold politicians accountable
🏡 reduce your personal footprint AND make your actions contagious by talking about them!

As Bill McKibben says , “the most important thing an individual can do right now is not be such an individual.”

@GeofCox "Reduce flying and fossil fuel-powered transport in favour of electric and public transport."

They left out active travel! 😮

@jeronim @GeofCox
Our solution is simply to reduce travel altogether. Imagine if we could completely stop holiday flights.

@KimSJ @GeofCox The UK government still believes in "green aviation"...

Heidi Alexander gave evidence to the Transport Committee this week, defending airport expansions, because, well, "growth" 😩

Active travel was barely mentioned.

https://parliamentlive.tv/event/index/7026d22a-43e9-4e95-bbb8-7650a2abdcc8

Parliamentlive.tv

Transport Committee