The Guardian asked hundreds of the world’s top climate scientists for their views on the most effective actions combating climate-ecological breakdown. The top 5 actions were:

1. Vote for representatives who pledge strong climate action.

2. Reduce flying and fossil fuel-powered transport in favour of electric and public transport.

3. Reduce meat consumption.

4. Reduce home heating or cooling emissions.

5. Join a campaign or protest group.

So... nothing about industry. It's all pushed back onto the consumer. Awesome.
@GeofCox @nigel voting and protesting are all about pressuring the industry and nothing about "pushing onto the consumer"
My pint was you're making the consumer do your leg work to create that pressure; it's all up to the consumer to get I volved and create that pressure.

This feels like a giant roundabout to make us feel like we're doing something when the reality is it is futile. I'm not saying it is but it sure can feel that way.

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@GeofCox @nigel Companies will never voluntary choose to ask the government for stronger ecological protection, unless they are like in the solar panel business or something.
So yes it is the citizen duty to pressure their government, and no it is not futile.

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Personally, I was very pleased to see voting, campaigning and protesting 1 and 5 in the list - I think it shows that scientists are NOT looking at action mainly in terms of isolated, individual consumers.

There was a great interview with the pioneering climate scientist Michael Mann yesterday - warning precisely of dangers like seeing polluters and/or capitalism as so pervasive and powerful nothing can be done.

"Doomism and defeatism today pose as much of a threat to climate action as outright denial. As the impacts of climate change become ever more obvious, it’s very difficult to credibly deny the problem. So, polluters have instead turned to other tactics in their efforts to block action. And among them is fanning the flames of doomism, for if we truly come to believe there is nothing we can do, then why try? That’s why I focus, in my outreach efforts, on both urgency and agency – and the science supports this."

https://www.newstatesman.com/spotlight/sustainability/climate/2024/05/michael-mann-defeatism-threat-climate-change-action-net-zero

Michael Mann: “Defeatism is as much of a threat as climate denial”

Michael E Mann is a climatologist and geophysicist, and is currently the director of the Centre for Science, Sustainability, and the Media at the University of Pennsylvania. His most recent book, Our

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@nigel @GeofCox let's put it this way: if the government is so powerless, why are corps spending billions in lobbying? If voting is so useless, why spending so much in pr campaigns and #greenwashing?
@docRekd @nigel @GeofCox the oligarchs fear the masses. The French Revolution remains a lesson.