Jeremy, aka JaharmiI would really like to improve on my #PKM #PersonalKnowledgeManagement — especially in the realm of connecting notes and surfacing related topics. I'd also like to have a #TrustedSystem because I feel like I'm all over the place with taking notes and capturing links and organizing information in recent years.
I definitely want a solution that works on the #macOS #iOS #iPadOS platforms. (Having a #TUI #TextUserInterface is not necessarily important to me, but could be a bonus.) I’d like it to be open — if not #FOSS #OpenSource — and probably extensible, but I also want to be able to support its ongoing development.
Eric Biesterfeld@jaharmi I would check out Logseq. It’s FOSS, works in the Apple ecosystem, and you can use all sorts of options to sync other than the closed source option of their team. I support them but do not use their sync solution.
Obsidian is great but not FOSS.
The important thing is that you don’t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Start with something simple like PARA and adapt as you learn what you like and dislike. I do a lot with the daily format but not everyone likes it.
Jacob Sam-La Rose@jaharmi What are you currently using?
@jslr I generally take notes in text file windows in various editors. (The windows may or may not get saved to files, ahem #BBEdit.) I’ve been using #Logseq for a few months — enough to appreciate some of its linking and data management/query capabilities. I throw a bunch into @drafts. I’ve also used #Ulysses.
@jaharmi @drafts Plenty of apps make it somewhat easier to surface things— be that time-based (i.e. spaced repetition) or context based (tags, filters, linked/unlinked references, keyword search etc). Logseq's surely up there near the top of the list, also Obsidian, Tana, Capabilities, SiYuan...
Is there anything specific you're missing from Logseq? A clear sense of this might help steer you.
@jaharmi @drafts Personally, I do a lot with Drafts, Muse, MindNode and MarginNote. I've been flirting with adding Obsidian to my system for the longest while, but as much as I admire its featureset, I haven't yet been compelled to do the extra work to make it work for me.
If I wasn't already so invested in my current set-up, I'd probably be deciding between Obsidian and SiYuan, mainly because I'd be looking for something powerful and iPadOS local/native.
Karl Voit 
@jaharmi Sure.
However, there are good arguments that the syntax of Org-mode is even better than Markdown: https://karl-voit.at/2017/09/23/orgmode-as-markup-only/
I think you can easily handle the differences and I bet that over time, you'll prefer org over Markdown as well.
neutronwrangler
Greg Lucas@jaharmi Do you use Emacs for anything else, or is this a first step? :-)
Org mode is well worth trying regardless, but if Emacs isn’t part of your workflow already there may be some friction.
@glucas This would be a first step.
@jaharmi I’ve definitely seen folks on blogs/social media that only use it for Org, so you wouldn’t be alone.
As a long-time Emacs user the magic for me is how seamlessly it fits into other stuff I’m doing. But I judge any new app in the space against Org’s capabilities, and it holds up.
Good luck, hope you find something that works well for you!
Nick Anderson@glucas @jaharmi org-mode brought me emacs https://cmdln.org/2023/03/13/reflecting-on-my-history-with-org-mode-in-2023/ spacemacs made emacs approachable and comfortable for my vi fingers and the space bindings have really grown on me and all the wonderful emacs things let's me stay in org-mode and intersect with org-mode with hardly any effort. It wasn't a quick process but it's been worth it for me. https://cmdln.org/2023/03/25/how-i-org-in-2023/
I am an android user, but people on ios are certainty successful, good examples on YouTube
#emacs #orgmode #pkm #spacemacs
I am an android user, but people on ios are certainty successful, good examples on YouTube
#emacs #orgmode #pkm #spacemacs
Alexandr Burtsev@nickanderson Wow! Great article! I've been using emacs and org-mode for everything for the past 5 years and have never been happier. My workflow is not as complex as yours and I learned a lot of useful things from your text.
Thanks for sharing such a detailed overview of your workflow!
Thanks for sharing such a detailed overview of your workflow!
@aburtsev that's great, glad you found some useful tidbits. I keep nudging that post around but I'll probably cut a new post when the year rolls over. What are your favorite features of org-mode? And, what was the most useful thing you found in my post?
@nickanderson I've had some management tasks in the past, and I'm tired of investing time in applications when it eventually turns out they aren't flexible enough to support the custom workflow you need. I happened to stumble across this blog post http://doc.norang.ca/org-mode.html (you also mentioned it in your post), and it inspired me to invest time in learning about emacs and the org-mode ecosystem.
@nickanderson The second problem was the knowledge base. I've been using Evernote for a long time, but the direction of the company's development has been toward poorly designed enterprise collaboration features, and the problems of regular users have been overlooked. Also, it's always hard to find what you need, refactoring tags is a very time consuming task. So it always seems to me that the OS handles everything better. I mean grep, sed, etc. So I wanted to transfer my knowledge to plain text
@nickanderson In a nutshell:
* The ability to own my data (I backup changes every 4 hours to git)
* A personalized task management tool that supports any workflow I can imagine
* The ability to build an awesome knowledge base
* I don't have to switch between contexts. I.e. I can code, use the knowledge base, track tasks with the same keybinding
* The ability to own my data (I backup changes every 4 hours to git)
* A personalized task management tool that supports any workflow I can imagine
* The ability to build an awesome knowledge base
* I don't have to switch between contexts. I.e. I can code, use the knowledge base, track tasks with the same keybinding
@nickanderson Your post inspired me to give a try to `org-roam`. As well as `org-rich-yank`. I haven't heard about the last one.
@nickanderson BTW I also use orgzly, but I have a slightly different workflow. I have a shared `mobile-inbox.org` file on all devices to add tasks on the run, and then refile them to desktop. And for tasks, I just have a daemon that exports the agenda for the next 3 days and I can quickly check them on mobile and get notifications.
@nickanderson I still haven't solved the problem with inserting screenshots. I have a solution for dragging and dropping images, but I haven't found a solution for pasting images from the buffer yet. Do you have any recommendation?
@aburtsev you mean image in the org file that you want to paste elsewhere? I typically open the image and yank the path to he file (spc f y y) that usually works ok, but I haven't really gone looking for getting the image copied, could be an improvement to my workflow in some cases hummm...
@nickanderson No, I meant the opposite - paste the image from the clipboard into the org file.
Huh, I've been using this tool https://github.com/abo-abo/org-download and somehow I missed that I already have what I need https://github.com/abo-abo/org-download#pasting-from-the-clipboard
It's always a good idea to read the full documentation :)
Huh, I've been using this tool https://github.com/abo-abo/org-download and somehow I missed that I already have what I need https://github.com/abo-abo/org-download#pasting-from-the-clipboard
It's always a good idea to read the full documentation :)
@aburtsev yeah I use that too. Very convenient.
@aburtsev how many devices do you interact with that file on? You export the agenda to html?
@nickanderson one mobile, 3 laptops and 1 rPi. I made the rPi the primary synchronization point. I.e. all devices pull and push only to rPi. I find it easier to manage.
I export to org to be able to get notification in Orgzly. This exported file is supposed to be read-only
I export to org to be able to get notification in Orgzly. This exported file is supposed to be read-only
@aburtsev org-rich-yank is really nice. Significant improvement for my notes and especially during investigation phase of something. I set the link style to comment because the file path is useful to me, but not usually useful for exports like jira.
Joonhyeok Ahn
Marc Riese@jaharmi Great choice. Emacs has a built-in tutorial for the basics, which might be helpful if you're using it for the first time. (Like, what's a buffer, what are the most important keybindings, etc.)
The orgmode documentation on the website also has lots of great tutorials.
There is literally nothing that orgmode can't do. If you ever wonder if orgmode has a certain feature, it probably does.
Marco Bresciani@jaharmi
Same for me. I've started with simple scratch files.
Still have a lot of Emacs basics to learn (search, move, ...) and I always have a few cheatsheets on my desk. And I still have to stop thinking for a second about the keys, when copy-pasting.
But actually happy to have started this (basically infinite) journey.
Good luck to us.
Same for me. I've started with simple scratch files.
Still have a lot of Emacs basics to learn (search, move, ...) and I always have a few cheatsheets on my desk. And I still have to stop thinking for a second about the keys, when copy-pasting.
But actually happy to have started this (basically infinite) journey.
Good luck to us.