Toadfeld De CoyoneroJun 29, 2023
Paul Haddad 

Apollo has an opt-out sub refund screen out. Since I unfortunately know, first hand, all about this process I'll say this is all incredibly stressful. If you ever had a sub for Apollo, even if you uninstalled it and deleted Reddit, go check it out and at least consider it.

It's probably only a few $s for you but those $s get multiplied by 10s of thousands of subs and end up being real money straight out of Christian's pockets.

Jun 29, 2023 at 2:25amWeb
Show threadPaul Haddad Jun 29, 2023
Macrumors commenter’s takes are always a take.
Show threadPaul Haddad Jun 29, 2023
“Simple Maths” 2 million downloads, 100% conversion rate, 0 churn. Revenue of approximately $30M a year! Or $180M over the 6 years!!!
Show threadAriadne Conill 🐰Jun 29, 2023
@paul lol lmao
Show threadRobert Petersen Jun 29, 2023
@paul AppleFan69 is spez
Show threadGerty SteinblattJun 29, 2023
@Sonikku @paul
Lol, y'think? :P
Show threadBrandonJun 29, 2023

@paul “I’d like my money back.” is a defensible position, whether or not we agree.

But why so much anger? if you’re going to rage this much rage at Reddit for causing this shitstorm.

Show threadDan WalkerJun 29, 2023
@Brandon @paul @paul i can't think of a business on earth that sits on a year's worth of revenue just in case they have to shut down and refund every one of their customers. It's not that asking for the money is indefensible. it's that acting like this shouldn't have any impact on the single person behind the business is unreasonable.
Show threadRamontronJun 29, 2023
@paul macrumors forum posters are some of the worst people on the internet. The comments get really wild when it’s a post that’s been marked as “political”.
Show threadCharlieGJun 29, 2023
@paul Macrumours forums have some of the worst comments I’ve seen anywhere. This dude reads like an angry 15 year old, though, and not a sophisticated one.
Show threadelroy Jun 29, 2023
@Charles @paul these are the kinds of people spez is courting, because he holds these same opinions
Show threadKarl Oscar WeberJun 29, 2023
@paul it’s applefan69, feels 100% like a troll account.
Show threadUrsidinoj/The BjornsdottirsJun 29, 2023
@paul Applefan69 knows anti-everything about software business.
Show threadGerty SteinblattJun 29, 2023
@paul
I couldn't tell from the screenshot, were those upvotes or downvotes?
Show threadAbazigalJun 29, 2023
@GertyBz As of this moment, 9 likes, 25 dislikes, 1 love. Take some solace in that majority disagree with his take, at least.
Show threadGerty SteinblattJun 29, 2023

@Abazigal
Thankyoo very much. :) :)

[edit] Ps: Solace taken.

Show threadStuart McHattie 👨🏼‍💻Jun 29, 2023
@Abazigal @GertyBz but that also there are 9 other children on that forum. I’ve actually, wrongly or rightly, always assumed that a large proportion of the people on Reddit are of school age because I can’t explain the childish banter, lack of compassion and inflammatory remarks any other way.
Show threadGerty SteinblattJun 29, 2023

@sdjmchattie @Abazigal
If you were perceived as womanly, you'd've experienced enormous numbers of fully grown adult men, so poorly socialised they're quite incapable of initiating any conversation that'd realistically return any pleasant engagement.

So I think it's perfectly possible that the puerile humour attempts & wild zero-empathy ragefires could realistically include a goodly proportion of adult men.

I just think the adolescents probably make up a smaller proportion than you think.

Show threadStuart McHattie 👨🏼‍💻Jun 29, 2023

@GertyBz @Abazigal this sounds like the voice of personal experience which I’m sorry to hear. I don’t really understand why anyone would want to instantly alienate other people before having a good reason to.

As I’ve recounted on several occasions, social media is not very sociable and usually generates more arguments and resentment than it does friendship and good discussion. The only exception at the moment seems to be Mastodon, but I’m sure it’ll get overrun eventually.

Show threadGerty SteinblattJun 29, 2023

@sdjmchattie @Abazigal
I usually assume alienations like this result from lacking empathy for non-"me" demographics, & most don't purposely cut off vast revenue streams. I've seen this trait most often by far in cis het white male groups, but I'm sure it could also be in others.

I find with Mastodon that engaged like-minded speedy moderation is key to a pleasant experience. Many instances are overrun with trolls/spam, but thanks to the admins on my instance I almost never see any. :)
@Curator

Show threadBen RushJun 29, 2023
@paul Points to my temporal lobes. “This makes my brain hurt, right here, it hurts right here”
Show threadJake RodkinJun 29, 2023
@paul they are always the worst. I sometimes compulsively click the comments button and then immediately regret it
Show threadJuan VillelaJun 29, 2023
@paul This dude sounds like a redditor 😄
Show threadBill0004Jun 29, 2023
@paul oh wow. Of all the takes, that’s one of them. Awful.
Show threadMathew SchafferJun 29, 2023
@paul yikes. I was just reading the comments. Dude sounds like a spez alt account.
Show threadEvan McCallJun 29, 2023
@paul Twitter comments or MacRumors comments, which are worse? ; )
Show threadBrennan StehlingJun 29, 2023
@evanmc Trick question? Isn't YouTube the all time winner?
Show threadFrank ReiffJun 29, 2023
@paul It’s always the dummest comments that are written with the greatest confidence.
Show threadAdrian MoralesJun 29, 2023
@paul This right here is why I have always steered clear of Reddit even though there were times when I wanted to join. I never did, fortunately.
Show threadEthanRDoesMCJun 29, 2023
@paul the most wannabe billionaire take in existence lmao
Show threadMacBiFFJun 29, 2023
@paul prob the same who will claim dev is greedy when switching to subscription model to support a living.
Show threadGed MaheuxJun 29, 2023
@paul Seeiously FUCK that guy. 😡
Show threadKelly GuimontJun 29, 2023
@gedeonm @paul swiftly and without mercy. With a splintered cricket bat.
Show threadRoy Tomeij Jun 29, 2023
@paul Pretty sure they never bought or subscribed to Apollo, too.
Show threadCesare ForelliJun 29, 2023
@paul what a nice human being. must be a lovely parent / son / friend
Show threadJurgen van VeenJun 29, 2023
@paul his wording is terrible, and it makes him look like an *ss, but I actually kinda agree.
Show threadSeanJun 29, 2023
@prullenbak @paul I was happy to ignore my subscription when Tweetbot was shutdown. I appreciated the work the developers did.
Show threadJurgen van VeenJun 29, 2023
@Craktok @paul I didn’t use the last version of tweetbot because I already started to hate twitter. So I didn’t have to make that decision. But I happily bought earlier versions. I don’t mind paying for software and although I don’t like subscriptions, I do get it. However, the anonymous person is kind of right in saying: “you pay for a subscription for working software. If the software stops working, there’s no real reason to keep paying.”
Show threadSeanJul 13, 2023
@prullenbak no one is saying you should keep paying for software after it’s stopped working, but I firmly believe you pay for what you’ve used (which is what I did with Tweetbot). The anonymous person was being a dick (as anonymous people are want to do).
Show threadJurgen van VeenJul 13, 2023
@Craktok don’t get me wrong: he absolutely was. But in principle, and more nuanced, I agreed with with him. And still do. But I like to stay on the non-dick side of the brutally honest / dick line 🙂
Show threadTomJun 29, 2023
@paul imagine being so casually cruel in your outlook on life and approach to other people.
Show threadJA WestenbergJun 29, 2023
@paul this is a special kind of rage. Generally I only see it from folks who are deeply deeply angry about something else entirely.
Show threadTormod HalvorsenJun 29, 2023

@paul

From a commenter who has not written a line of code ever.

Still amazes me how many people don't understand that software creators need to eat too…

Show threadBluewall Jun 29, 2023
@paul What in the actual fuck lmao
Show thread🕹️🕹️🕹️8/16/32bit 🕹️🕹️🕹️Jun 29, 2023

@paul "I don't care that the money has already been spent on providing the service I paid for, I want it back!"

That's someone who doesn't understand how the infrastructure behind Apollo (or anything on the internet for that matter) works.

Show threadEric Böhnisch-VolkmannJun 29, 2023
@paul 🤦🏻‍♂️
Show threadI can’t believe its not @twcauJun 29, 2023
@paul There’s a take, there’s daylight, then there’s that guy. 😳
Show threadMeowJun 29, 2023
@paul I'm the first one pressing a 👎
Show threadKiruJun 29, 2023
@paul that has got to be the most fitting username ive ever seen
Show threadWesley HilliardJun 29, 2023

@paul our forums are just as bad. We have people sharing links to websites that seemingly make up people’s net worth saying “this guy is a millionaire.”

I hate humanity sometimes.

Show thread@[email protected]Jun 29, 2023

Thank you for your insights, *squints* “applefan69”

Edit: You can tell this guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about because Apollo had the option to donate to Christian’s local SCPA. There was literally a “real” charity donation button right on the app itself.

Show threadBest Wishes, TheJesusFishJun 29, 2023
@paul Just the worst people on the internet
Show threadsirshannonJun 29, 2023

@paul
Regardless, this comment is all kinds of wrong but also…

Does the developer have to refund 100% or just the 70%/85% they received after Apple’s take?
Does Apple refund their take to the user, the dev, or “nah, that’s our money now”?

Show threadSeanJun 29, 2023
@sirshannon @paul that’s a good question.
Show threadAndyJun 29, 2023
@paul I can’t believe applefan69 wasn’t more socially adjusted, that came out of nowhere
Show threadMike Zeller Jun 29, 2023
@paul this is why I tend to read the articles without ever venturing into the comments or forum posts
Show threadKris VendenJun 29, 2023
@paul found myself wishing ya’ll would’ve done the Tweetbot wallpapers thing that they did ;)
Show threadAmy D Jun 29, 2023
@paul 😭😭😭😭
Show threadOrinJun 29, 2023
@paul The decline refund wouldn’t pop up for me. So I bought the wallpapers instead.
Show threadAaron HockleyJun 29, 2023
@paul How does one find this screen? Updated the latest version, got a popup about buying a wallpaper pack, but I'll be darned if I can find the refund opt-out.
Show threadKelly GuimontJun 29, 2023
@techphotoguy @paul force quit, of that doesn't do it make sure the app thinks you're subscribed (restore purchase or whatever it says). Mine didn't seem to remember my subscription for a minute there.