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Dr. Lucky Tran 
CDC opens probe after 35 test positive for #COVID following CDC conference where they didn’t take COVID precautions https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2023/05/02/covid-outbreak-cdc-annual-conference/
When experts say "this is, unfortunately, the new normal," it's important to add that the "new normal" means continuing high levels of death, chronic illness, and exclusion of high risk and immunocompromised people from society. The "new normal" is unacceptable.
KanaMauna"New normal" is how they absolve themselves of any responsibility.
Phoenix Blue (they/them)@KanaMauna @luckytran I don't get the feeling that the experts had any agency in the decision-making process, so in that sense they're not responsible for anyone's behavior but their own. Like ... I know if I were in Varma's position, I'd just be gesturing at the outcome of the conference from behind an N-95.
BenderIsGreat34@luckytran let’s see if they change their minds once they are part of the immune compromised demographic. Mo infection mo damage.
Christian Kent@andymoose @luckytran Spoiler alert: Nope
Humans (and to an extreme extent, all other animals) have a mostly unlimited ability to accept defeat, or loss, or most kinds of unimprovement
Doc AWFL*@luckytran that is such utter nonsense. If taking precautions were the new normal this would not have happened.
Kate Nyhan is changing servers"Attendees said many people at the gathering did not mask, socially distance or take other precautions that the CDC had recommended earlier in the pandemic."
--> we tried nothing and it didn't work 👀
BlueDot🇺🇦Does the "rapid epidemiological assessment" include asking the participants and conference staff to test? Bc the quoted email says to test *if you are experiencing symptoms.*
Actually, if CDC is living in an alternate universe where all transmission is from symptomatic people, that would explain a lot 🤣
@pineywoozle ‘s #3WordNote@kdnyhan @Tarheel @luckytran That was exactly my thought. We know that asymptomatic transmission is one of the biggest drivers of this bullshit. “I’m not sick. How can I make anyone else sick? “ no one in the group I was in looks sick. How could I have gotten sick? “ #Covid #CDC
@Pineywoozle @Tarheel @luckytran And the circumstances will never be better for a robust outbreak investigation of spread at a big conference than they are here.
CDC staff should have a high response rate.
People with insurance still have free access to rapid tests.
The event was big enough that they, as a big customer, can ask the venue for ventilation info and actually get something (instead of getting fobbed off with "don't worry, we are code-compliant")
CDC staff should have a high response rate.
People with insurance still have free access to rapid tests.
The event was big enough that they, as a big customer, can ask the venue for ventilation info and actually get something (instead of getting fobbed off with "don't worry, we are code-compliant")
Justin Derrick@Pineywoozle @kdnyhan @Tarheel @luckytran This is something that annoys the hell out of me - testing before a group activity is trivially easy and if you test when you wake up, then do your morning routine, the test is ready. It takes approximately 2 minutes out of your day. It’s not perfect, but would weed out superspreaders.
@JustinDerrick @kdnyhan @Tarheel @luckytran So many simple things we could be doing. Adequate air filtration in schools. Just a Corsi box in the corner of a fucking room. It breaks my brain how unseriously people are taking this.
Apple Annie 
@luckytran what’s unacceptable is it forces people like me to live in a perpetual “March 2020”, and HCW everywhere are psychologizing our continuing protection measures as anxiety and gaslighting us, I fucking hate it
FediThing has moved!Yes, this is just the worst 😡 There are lots of us now in our fourth year of isolation and no one wants to talk about it.
It is thoroughly depressing to hear a qualified, experienced counsellor suggest "what if you just ignored the virus?". It's like the "this is fine" cartoon come to life.
I'm guessing that it's a combination of lobbyists wanting to avoid short term financial hits, and support workers whose entire training was based on a stable relatively disease-free world where medical authorities would take action if there was a danger.
Support workers now have no training at all for a situation where public health has been abandoned by those in charge of promoting it. This is a horrible thing to admit, so they resort to some kind of denial.
Sane Thinker@luckytran There are many "new normals" coming. Covid was just the beginning.
Voron@luckytran @SuperTwaddle The comfortable are often o.k. with things that should be unacceptable if the wealthy who control the levers of power say they must be accepted….even “experts” seem to accept the unacceptable
@luckytran Don’t forget the automatic drop in standard of living for the entire society, resulting from inflation, resulting from a drop in labour participation, resulting from a drop in work output just generally — the new normal, everyone everywhere tired all the time
Economics is much easier if you don’t think about the money
TransitBiker@luckytran so the new normal is us just diseasing ourselves into extinction?
kira :3
D's lack of faith in humanity
RowinSpeez@denniskoch @luckytran “I have the answer sheet right here, but still chose to answer all the questions wrong on purpose. How could I still fail the test?!”
Marcos@luckytran Leopards open probe after faces found eaten at Not My Face Conference where no leopard precautions were provided.
Fifth Yanran@glitch25 @luckytran It would be better if there are pictures and truth
@luckytran they are being treated with leaches and horse dewormer as we speak and all of them will do the same dumb shit again in 3 weeks.
Paula@luckytran who ever could have predicted that outcome? 😔
mx alex tax1a - 2020 (6)@luckytran 90dB bass boosted shocked pikachu face
ouinne@atax1a this is the greatest shocked pikachu reference ever, five stars
Canadian Crone@luckytran The deliberate ignorance is staggering.
Steve Vlad@luckytran What a fucking shit show
🔥Cassandra🔥
Paul Fairie@Cassandra @luckytran Hah, incredible
Darwin Woodka@luckytran gosh I wonder what could've been done
boyle 🇵🇸@luckytran
*long, tired sigh*
*long, tired sigh*
Kaia Seaver@luckytran
Stupid games, stupid prizes.
Stupid games, stupid prizes.
malena
Alyson Decker@luckytran @josh Me: Can the CDC prove it’s more completely incompetent to handle a public health crisis?
CDC: Hold my beer… which I am enjoying in a crowded indoor space while taking no COVID precautions.
CDC: Hold my beer… which I am enjoying in a crowded indoor space while taking no COVID precautions.
Steve Torrente@alysondecker @luckytran @josh The CDC squanders its credibility in a much less stylish and profitable manner than the supreme court.
Truth Seeker@luckytran I used to respect the #CDC. This is just completely disappointing and pathetic.
Tom Levenson@luckytran Ooops.
I was at a mass gathering this weekend in which almost no one was masked.
I'm guessing vax status was solid, but still. I spent two evenings wondering if we were about to become a superspreader event.
Which, given that it was a rather fancy journalism crowd, would make/would have made for some very interesting reading.
May yet--we're not in the infection incubation clear yet.
Samhain Night@tomlevenson @luckytran The vaccine makes dying from Covid less likely, but it doesn’t stop Long Covid
sabik@samhainnight @tomlevenson @luckytran
AIUI, the vaccine reduces all the risks, but only reduces them? By something like a third, which is a lot, but also clearly not enough to rely on it on its own?
AIUI, the vaccine reduces all the risks, but only reduces them? By something like a third, which is a lot, but also clearly not enough to rely on it on its own?
Stacey Campbell
Ed Suominen@luckytran One or two of those people—perhaps more—will wind up with #LongCovid and who knows how many others with long-term health problems that show up much later. And for what?
I think there is a cargo cult around the vaccines, and they are being treated as some sort of magic talisman that protects the person vaccinated no matter what the studies say. And what do they say? That there is ZERO statistically significant protection against infection and only about 50-50 against Long Covid.
LVLMLeah@luckytran So they followed current CDC guidelines and so many of them got covid. 🤔
GreySkiesYeah, but see...Covid is only a cold for most people, and it would never hit THEM harder, after all they've all already HAD it and it was nothing. THIS is the mindset they have. If you live in this kind of magical wonderland, taking it easy on the "guidelines" is not SUCH a stretch suddenly, is it?
@GreySkies @luckytran This is the point though. Why then investigate what happened? Just let it go and say we'll it's no longer a big deal. Just a cold. So it's weird they're making a show of acting like they will investigate as if it's some big shock it happened.
Liron@luckytran you couldn't make this shit up if you tried
Eshu Marneedi@luckytran 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
acm@luckytran the writers are swerving into satire again this season!!
Lightfighter@luckytran I wonder what could have happened?
toxtethogrady@luckytran "Oops. My bad..."
Nina🐀🌻WTAF America?@luckytran
I'll bet that probe will cost a lot more than the boxes of rapid tests and masks they should have opened at the conference sign-in.
I'll bet that probe will cost a lot more than the boxes of rapid tests and masks they should have opened at the conference sign-in.
WANDERING🏴☠️LENS@luckytran "'I never thought covid would infect MY body,' sobs woman who attended the Covid Infection Party"
Vesturøy Dave
Ricardo Harvin@luckytran Insert Spider-Men pointing meme.
Mark W. Alexander@luckytran
That's what happens when #TheNewNormal is declared despite #TheNewData suggesting that the #pandemic is far from over.
That's what happens when #TheNewNormal is declared despite #TheNewData suggesting that the #pandemic is far from over.
System IV, Building K@luckytran Man, that rampant plague is sure “unsettling”.
Ravensrod 🫖 🍰