SamboyDec 21, 2022
Claes de Vreese ☑️

Washington Post will be creating their own instance. They will add #mastodon accounts to journalist profiles.

Institutional #journalism embracing the #fediverse is important.

UPDATE 07.54 AM: WaPo is *discussing* instance, first messaging about this was too definitive. Seeing level of support, hoping they decide in favour [END]

#commodon #journodon @communicationscholars

Dec 21, 2022 at 9:00pmToot!
Show threadJoelleDec 21, 2022
@claesdevreese I hope that if a journalist leaves the Washington Post, they can take their followers and such with them.
Show threadAteriathDec 21, 2022
@joelle @claesdevreese Shouldn’t be any different than migrating to any other server… unless the Post decide to be dicks and ban the account so they can’t get back in to make the transfer. But that’s a potential problem with all instances.
Show threadJoelleDec 21, 2022

@Ateriath @claesdevreese For sure -- who owns your instance matters. Having an instance your ability to earn income depends upon that may be in conflict with your future income seems like it's particularly likely to cause problems.

I'm glad to see WP supporting the fediverse. But I am concerned I'm not going to be able to follow good reporters to their next publication.

Show threadGrassroots JoeDec 22, 2022
@joelle @Ateriath @claesdevreese
Journalists move around with some frequency. It would be self defeating to do anything that would interfere with their ability to attract people from other organizations.
Preventing former employees from moving their accounts would certainly fall into this category.
Show threadAteriathDec 22, 2022
@joeinwynnewood @joelle @claesdevreese This is true. It is also true that some people are short sighted and act against their own self interest in order to hurt those by whom they feel wronged. Many of these people are bosses.
Show threadAlanDec 21, 2022
@claesdevreese @Ateriath @joelle there could some tech tools built for journalists (and really anyone on someone else’s host) to ensure migration, identity, or maybe even automatic official to personal acct mirror posts.
Show threadKyle Memoir 🍉🐧Dec 22, 2022
@joelle @claesdevreese Depending on any contract terms, one assumes. technically, yes.
Show threadNicolas PettiauxDec 21, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars voici qui pourrait vous aider @philaloux @JohanneMontay @aruyssen
Show threadJust an old goatDec 21, 2022
@claesdevreese This approach does so much more for credibility than blue checkmarks ever have, even before you could just buy them.
And I think it's something people already implicitly understand, because we know how website domains and email addresses for official stances from an organization are supposed to work.
Show threadVincent TraagDec 21, 2022
@claesdevreese that would be great! Do you have a link or document describing their move?
Show threadVincent TraagDec 21, 2022
@claesdevreese I did come across this post, which seems to suggest this indeed https://journa.host/@jeremybowers/109551706041274437
Jeremy Bowers (@[email protected])

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Show threadClaes de Vreese ☑️Dec 21, 2022
@vtraag @jeremybowers will be the one with details
Show threadJeremy BowersDec 21, 2022
@claesdevreese @vtraag Jury still out on if we host an instance, but we're actively working on adding links to profiles for our journalists! Trust is important!
Show threadVincent TraagDec 21, 2022
@jeremybowers @claesdevreese great, thanks! Having WP host their own server would be a game changer. We started our own institutional server a few weeks ago. Our move is just throwing a pebble in a pond. WP doing so would throw in a rock.
Show threadnaught101Dec 21, 2022
@jeremybowers @claesdevreese @vtraag and this is why citing sources is important
Show threadFlorent LatriveDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @jeremybowers @vtraag thanks a lot. Interesting question for a media (I’ m working for the french public radio), instance or not?
Show threadabeorchJan 3, 2023
@latrive
I would say that for most larger organisations an instance makes sense in terms of both facilitating 'official' accounts s, for boosting posts from individual reporters on personal accounts and as a news monitoring mechanism..
@claesdevreese @jeremybowers @vtraag
Show threadabeorchJan 3, 2023

I dont think that the out of the box #Mastodon or #activitypub solutions really exist for #corporates, #media or #publishers yet though. Id be looking for features like integration to editorial systems, stats and instance crawling features, perhaps subscription capabilities among other things.
@latrive

@claesdevreese @jeremybowers @vtraag

Show threadabeorchJan 3, 2023
@latrive
what are your thoughts [email protected]?
Are existing #Twitter feeds generally plugged into editorial systems or fed via social media tools like #hootsuite ?
@claesdevreese @vtraag
Show threadNour Agha Dec 22, 2022
@jeremybowers @claesdevreese @vtraag If you do decide to, it'll be a historical move as the first publication to do so (I imagine a lot more will follow).
Show threadNormanDec 22, 2022

@jeremybowers
@claesdevreese @vtraag

A WaPo instance would be huge.

Show threadJonathan-FL 🇺🇸🇺🇦🇵🇸⚛️💙Dec 22, 2022
@jeremybowers @claesdevreese @vtraag -
PLEASE have the Washington Post host your own instance! In addition to all the issues of security and control, also consider that it is an unreasonable burden for an organization the size and stature of WaPo to depend upon volunteer labor and donated hardware for your Fediverse connection.
Show threadbeyondwattsDec 21, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars assuming it’s true, one for @jimcarroll
Show threadFuturist Jim CarrollDec 21, 2022

@beyondwatts @claesdevreese @communicationscholars

Ya, I saw a toot about this earlier; if true, my poll from last week is wildly out of date!

This thing has momentum!

Show threadMarkus Feilner (has moved)Dec 21, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars
that is great news.
Show threadTony FlorioDec 21, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars This seems like a great opportunity for all journalists: an instance that enforces journalistic standards that then can create a greater sense of trust among followers.
Show threadFrançois Caron 🇨🇦Dec 21, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars I was counting on this to happen eventually! Best way to have a verified account is to have it on a restricted instance.
Show threadnaught101Dec 21, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars please cite a source
Show threadleperez1Dec 21, 2022

@claesdevreese @communicationscholars @jeremybowers

As a subscriber, I would be thrilled to see this. The recent Editorial Board article about how the bird site could be fixed is not the priority. Setting up WAPOs own instance shows incredible leadership and a level of trust that content is not being censored by that other site.

Show threadKee HinckleyDec 22, 2022

@claesdevreese @communicationscholars

I think this is absolutely great. They get to provide the moderation at the level they want. And they don’t have to worry about some idiot shutting them down.

**BUT**
I highly recommend that all Washington Post reporters also keep a personal account elsewhere. They can use that to boost everything they post on the official account. But they can also use it for personal posts. And if they lose their job, they still have an account, and the links to everything they wrote.

People can decide whether they want to follow just the news, or the whole person.

I also hope that the Post uses lists andor hashtags so that it’s easy to follow topics and specific subjects. I think in general lists will be better, because they can control what shows up when you view it. Hashtags will undoubtably get spammed.

#mastodon #press

Show threadStephanie en ChileDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars it's important indeed. It will help other media and news agencies to do the same. Then Governments and Public Institutions will move here.
And then, we're done with Twitter.
Show threadRyan Germann Dec 22, 2022
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Show threadJohn HaydenDec 22, 2022
@communicationscholars @claesdevreese ok @BostonGlobe you’re next
Show thread🄯 CarlOSDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars it would be really great!
Is there any official communication about that?
Show threadPatty A. GrayDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese Hurray!!
Show threadNate HeagyDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars @chancerydaily having your mastodon account tied to your employer does NOT sound great
Show threadCraig JohnstonDec 22, 2022

@claesdevreese

About time

Show threadKatherine ☘️Dec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars I hope they make it easy for journalists to own/transfer their work and accountv if they ever leave the WaPo too
Show threadOphitoxaemiaDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese For $4.99/month per user, right?
Show threadAndrew MagillDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars This is wonderful!
Show threadhopeless wandererDec 22, 2022

@claesdevreese @communicationscholars

Oh, it's going down

Show threadAske KammerDec 22, 2022
@communicationscholars @claesdevreese Perhaps of interest for you (and certainly related): together with other unions, the Danish Union of Journalists is currently looking into creating a #Mastodon instance. In contrast to the WaPo model, as I imagine it, this means journalists will be able to stay on instance even if they get a new job. #dkmedier https://journalisten.dk/ego-og-kulturkrigsprojekt-udelukkelse-af-journalister-faar-mediefolk-op-af-stolene/
’Ego- og kulturkrigsprojekt’: Udelukkelse af journalister får mediefolk op af stolene - Journalisten

”Det her er nøjagtigt med til at vise, hvor farligt det er at deponere vores offentlige debat et sted, hvor ét menneske alene kan sidde og redigere vores offentlige samtale.” Sådan siger Tine Johansen, formand for Dansk Journalistforbund, efter at Twitter-ejer Elon Musk ud af det blå har suspenderet en håndfuld prominente amerikanske journalister uden […]

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Show threadPhilippe 🇪🇺Dec 22, 2022
@askekammer @communicationscholars @claesdevreese The Swedish Journalists Union through @ulrikamhedman is saying the same thing about getting Swedish journalists on the Fediverse.
Show threadHobbesDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars this is awesome. Feels like a true tipping point.
Show threadProtectiveHenDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars This is an amazing moment, when there is the opportunity for institutional media to choose an ad-free, non-surveillance platform. #Mastodon #WashingtonPost #fediverse
Show threadMickaël RémondDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars Good move.
This is the way to go. All press should do that. Accounts certified by the use of their domain name.
Show threadSparrDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars Any business or govt agency that has their own email domain and servers should have their own fediverse instance(s). Would you trust an email from [email protected]?
Show threadSebastian LasseDec 22, 2022

@claesdevreese @communicationscholars

The Fediverse runs on ActivityPub, the world’s leading federated social web standard .
My hope is that they will unleash the possibilities of this Open Protocol which can be baked in their pages and extended with all the journalist vocabularies from IPTC to EBU.
It has multilanguage properties and we talked about this often in the dev meetings.

My hope is that Online Journalism incubates, also software suited for their needs.
> https://digitalcourage.social/@sl007/109525604255806335

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Show threadmehulkarDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars do you have a source for this?
Show threadSir Nick the ArdentDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars
I'm thrilled that it's even being talked about; that's a step in the right direction.
Show threadMatthiasDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars
Not too surpringly for me the WP seems to be the first major one. Now: what will be the first German one?
Spiegel, Zeit... anyone?
Show threadEduardo Lisboa 👨🏾‍💻Dec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars I don’t know if I’m being too naive, but think about that: news sites hosting their own instances, which play the role of the comments section, or something like that? With a little tweaking here and there, along with RSS integration, anyone could see the comments, without the need to register on the instance. That would be necessary only if the person wanted to comment
Show threadiamBullivantDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars 👏 👏 👏
Show threadDoug ParryDec 22, 2022

@claesdevreese @communicationscholars

Interesting idea.
The institutional support is positive but I’m skeptical about having people belong to a specific organisation’s server.

Maybe servers would be better thought of as guilds/societies with members of many different organisations belonging, with the org sponsoring relevant servers to which their members belong?

Show threadKyle Memoir 🍉🐧Dec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars This is huge. Hope it's the break that clears the logjam.
Show threadEric VitielloDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars @danhon it really is happening
Show threadHammancheezDec 22, 2022
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars if they don’t call it washingon.postadon they can gtfo
Show threadRotfarmJul 4, 2023
@claesdevreese @communicationscholars I feel like this us what organizations or businesses in the fedi should look like. Imagine indy record labels having an instance their artists are on!