Sebastian KositzNov 19, 2022
𝚃𝚊𝚛𝚊𝚜 𝙶𝚛𝚎𝚜𝚌𝚘𝚎 🚇

This year, the speed limit in #Bordeaux dropped from 50 km/h to 30 (30 to 20 mph). Joins #Montpellier #Grenoble, #Nice, #Lille, #Nantes, 200 other cities in #France with 30 km/h limits.

This has already led to an astonishing 70% decrease in crash fatalities.

Nov 18, 2022 at 9:13pmWeb
Show threadRobⓋNov 18, 2022
@straphanger that sort of rocket science will baffle councils and police
Show threadChloé PascualNov 18, 2022
@straphanger What a gorgeous image!
Show threadDeutscher Bahnkunden-VerbandNov 19, 2022
@straphanger Der Bürgerschaft und dem Senat i #Hamburg zur Kenntnis.
Show threadKilianNov 19, 2022
@straphanger when in Vienna?
Show threadDetlef Hoepfner 🔵Nov 19, 2022
@straphanger Source?
Show thread@maybeabattistNov 19, 2022
@straphanger this is just great! I would hope that approaches like this would find more acceptance in Germany! There is no need to rush through a crowded area with 50kp/h. Life is not a race.
Show threadPierre-Amiel GiraudNov 19, 2022
@straphanger Very interesting but... How/where did you get these numbers?
Show threadSylvain MiermontNov 19, 2022

@straphanger As a long-time resident of #Grenoble, I can say that the 30 km/h #speedLimit is nearly always ignored and absolutely not enforced by the municipal #police force, nor by the national police. 
It's even ignored by the municipal buses. On paper it's the law, but in reality it's more like a mild suggestion. I think security gains came for other improvements in street and urban design.

Also, as a native of #Bordeaux, thank you for using this picture. I love seeing this "wireless" #tram, and hope more people can realize that public transit can be simultaneously useful and pretty if they get involved and fight for it. This tram, it's so elegant, like a plumb caterpillar meandering through the posh city center. 🚊

Show threadno2nsenseNov 19, 2022
@straphanger ivan Illich would approve!
Show threadDavid K.Nov 19, 2022
@straphanger vielleicht das erste mal im Leben, dass mir der Gedanke kam: "Was für eine wunderschöne Straßenbahn"
Show threadKaren A. PlueschfaustNov 19, 2022
@straphanger Cool!
Show threadDerPradaNov 19, 2022
@straphanger What a nice picture of a clean road beside the pretty buildings and a clean modern kind of traffic.
Show threadDrearytownNov 19, 2022

@straphanger I lived 10 years in Grenoble. From this time I can tell that what was already a decent place has been mesmerised by the current mayor, Piolle. We already had a very decent tramway-network given the size of the city. Most importantly: there were park & rides with attractive pricing on every line end.

With Piolle this has been scaled dramatically, the city core has now big car-free parts, there’s no commercial advertising on public space, …

Show threadtja.Nov 19, 2022
@radkolumne c’est magnifique 😍
Show threadCO DomNov 19, 2022
@straphanger The result of a car crash is mostly dependent on speed. 10 km/h difference is insignificant on short distances but very significant in car crashes.
I’m happy to see thoughtful regulations more and more.
Show threadkhroesingNov 19, 2022
@straphanger Hallo #FDP so geht es und nicht mit libertärem Freiheitsgefasel.
Show threadLarsdigitalNov 19, 2022
@straphanger if we implemented this in Germany all the 45 km per hour limits of ebikes and small Ecars would All of a sudden make sense.
Show threadChameleonNov 19, 2022
@straphanger Slower speed means faster reaction time.
Show threadWonneNov 19, 2022
@straphanger feels like France is just a more developed country than Germany
Show thread@energiepiratNov 19, 2022
@straphanger 30/60/80 Stadt-Land-Überfluss. Presto. Nach fünf Jahren detailgenau evaluiert öffentlich die Ergebnisse vorstellen und dann rein faktenbasiert entscheiden.
Show threadFinal Round Player 😷🇪🇺🍸Nov 19, 2022
@straphanger If all minor urban roads are 30kph, 20mph speed limits. Perhaps we could remove all restrictions on alternative low carbon vehicles such as E-Bikes, E-Scoots, E-Quads, Cargo bikes, E-Velomobiles, Light cars, etc, etc. Ride, Drive whatever you want with no registration, insurance or whatever. Just stay below 20mph, stay off the pavements, have at least one brake, lights at night. And don't be a dick.
Show threadDavid Palk#RejoinEU 💖🇪🇺🕊🌈Nov 19, 2022

@straphanger

IMO urban centres should be car free. Emergency vehicles, permitted deliveries, public transport, disability vehicles, bikes and foot traffic only. Pedestrians have priority. #PeopleFirst

Show threadNic FarraNov 19, 2022
@straphanger The 30km zones in Christchurch, New Zealand are so much safer and more pleasant for all road users.
Show threadColin CurtinNov 19, 2022
@straphanger @pixel that’s incredible. I’m convinced that anything that needs to go fast should be done on rails.
Show threadHelix Nov 19, 2022

@straphanger isn't 30km/h still too much for humans? Shouldn't this be more like about 24-25km/h? Do you know about any medical background here by any chance?

Good news. More cities should follow.

Show threadchrfrNov 20, 2022
@straphanger First of all: I completely agree with that idea!! But is there a source available for that 70% decrease? 70% sure sounds incredible. But for the complete picture it is always nice to also know the absolute numbers. Because: the lower the absolute numbers are, the bigger the influence of single events, (bad) luck and random coincidences can be, without any causal connection to the thing we wanted to measure in the first place 🤷🏻 #statistics #causalinference
Show threadFritz Bauer♟️⚜️  Nov 20, 2022

@straphanger @darmstadt @darmstadtfaehrtrad @darmstadt.social

Wie kriegt man sowas bei OB Jochen Partsch hinterlegt? Ausdrucken und Briefmarke drauf oder kriegt die #Wissenschaftsstadt und #digitalstadt Darmstadt hier mal einen Account?

HM???

Show threadHugh AshtonNov 20, 2022
@straphanger In Britain we have fossil-fuelled politicians decrying the move to a 20mph limit. 😞
Show threadJayne 🇪🇺🏳️‍🌈Nov 20, 2022

@straphanger

The Senedd (the Welsh parliament) will drop the restricted (urban and high pedestrian areas) speed limit from 30mph to 20mph in September 2023 which, hopefully, will see similar results 👍

https://gov.wales/introducing-default-20mph-speed-limits

Introducing default 20mph speed limits | GOV.WALES

We are introducing a default 20mph speed limit on restricted roads across Wales.

GOV.WALES
Show threadWilfried KlaebeNov 20, 2022
@straphanger /cc @SheDrivesMobility
Show threadJon PNov 21, 2022
@straphanger I have a lot of love for Bordeaux, especially all their trams 💚
Show thread🇪🇺 Wolfgang Sprick 🇺🇦Nov 22, 2022
@straphanger Und in D verteidigt die Freie Partei die Freiheit, indem sie geltendes Straßenverkehrsrecht nicht ändert und so den Kommunen verbietet, Tempo 30 als generelles Tempolimit einzuführen.
Show threadRodriccNov 28, 2022
Oh good
Show threadGarethWilliamsDec 3, 2022
Heh, the traffic in Bordeaux is so bad that it's usually impossible to drive that fast anyway 😁
Show threadAdevDec 3, 2022
@straphanger
Do you have a link to data regarding the crash fatalities?
Show threadGitaaRetsuSama Dec 4, 2022
@straphanger
Echt ein Traum!
Bei uns würden die Städte damit Wahrscheinlich gegen 1000 Gesetze Verstößen wenn sie so etwas einführen wurden. Ich hoffe dass die Grünen Anteile unserer Regierung bald Abhilfe schaffen. Mit Volker Wissing als Verkehrsminister wird das aber wahrscheinlich nichts.