@jlou
That’s a big red flag for me. As soon as I come across ‘mandated’, in this case, in terms of a universally enforced single mode of production in an economic model, I see #NationalSocialism and #Fascism and I tend to switch off. Sry. If this is really your opinion I don’t wish to engage further.

Genealogical Diagram: From Romanticism to Marxism, National Socialism, and Fascism

┌──────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ ROUSSEAU & ROMANTICISM │ │ Natural self • Emotion • Authenticity │ │ Anti-rationalism • Volk (Herder) │ └───────────────┬──────────────────────────────┘ │ ▼ ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ KANT (Critical Philosophy) │ │ Limits of reason • Transcendental subject │ │ Moral autonomy • Noumena/phenomena │ └───────────────┬──────────────────────────────┘ │ ▼ ┌────────────────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ FICHTE & EARLY GERMAN IDEALISM │ │ The “I” posits itself • Struggle • Nationalism │ │ State as moral educator • Volk as spiritual unity │ └─────────────────────┬──────────────────────────────────┘ │ ▼ ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ SCHELLING (Nature Philosophy) │ │ Romantic metaphysics • Nature as Spirit │ └───────────────┬──────────────────────────────┘ │ ▼ ┌──────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ HEGEL (High German Idealism) │ │ Dialectic • Spirit • History • State │ └───────────────┬──────────────────────────────┘ │ │ ┌───────────────────────────────────┼──────────────────────────────────────────────┐ │ │ │ ▼ ▼ ▼ ┌──────────────────────┐ ┌──────────────────────────────┐ ┌──────────────────────────────┐ │ MARXISM │ │ NATIONAL SOCIALISM │ │ FASCISM │ │ (Hegel inverted; │ │ (Fichtean nationalism; │ │ (Romantic will; myth; │ │ class dialectic) │ │ anti-Hegel due to Marx) │ │ State as unity) │ └──────────────────────┘ └──────────────────────────────┘ └──────────────────────────────┘ │ │ │ ▼ ▼ ▼ ┌──────────────────────┐ ┌──────────────────────────────┐ ┌──────────────────────────────┐ │ COMMUNISM │ │ HITLERISM / NAZISM │ │ MUSSOLINI’S FASCISM │ │ (Proletarian state) │ │ (Rosenberg uses Fichte, not │ │ (Sorel + nationalism + │ │ │ │ Hegel; Volk + race + State) │ │ modernist authoritarianism) │ └──────────────────────┘ └──────────────────────────────┘ └──────────────────────────────┘

How to Read the Genealogy

1. Rousseau & Romanticism — the emotional and moral root system

Rousseau and the early Romantic movement sit at the same level because they are essentially two expressions of the same worldview. Rousseau provides the philosophical core; Romanticism turns it into a cultural force.

Together they supply the soil from which later ideologies grow:

  • authenticity over rationalism
  • the natural self as morally pure
  • suspicion of civilisation and modernity
  • the heroic individual
  • the Volk as an organic cultural community (Johann Gottfried Herder’s contribution)
  • emotion as a guide to truth

This is the pre‑ideological foundation that later thinkers will systematise, politicise, or weaponise.

2. Kant — the bridge from Romantic sentiment to philosophical structure

Immanuel Kant is not a Romantic, but he provides the crucial intellectual machinery that makes German Idealism possible:

  • the transcendental subject
  • the limits of empirical reason
  • the autonomy of the moral will
  • the distinction between appearance and reality

Kant gives later thinkers the architecture they need to turn Romantic intuitions into philosophical systems.

3. Fichte & Early German Idealism — the nationalist and voluntarist turn

Fichte stands at the same level as Early German Idealism because he is its first full expression. He radicalises Kant and fuses him with Romantic nationalism.

Fichte introduces:

  • the self (“I”) as world‑creating
  • struggle as the engine of moral development
  • the State as educator and moral shaper
  • the Volk as a spiritual community defined by language and culture
  • the idea that national unity is a moral imperative

This is why the National Socialists later mined him so heavily: he provides a philosophical justification for unity, struggle, and State supremacy without the Marxist baggage attached to Hegel.

4. Schelling — the Romantic metaphysician

Schelling blends Romanticism and Idealism into a metaphysics of nature:

  • nature as living Spirit
  • the unity of mind and world
  • the aesthetic as a path to truth

He is the bridge between Fichte’s voluntarism and Hegel’s system‑building.

5. Hegel — the system‑builder of history and the State

Hegel takes the entire Romantic–Idealist inheritance and turns it into a grand historical machine:

  • the dialectic
  • Spirit unfolding through conflict
  • history as rational development
  • the State as the embodiment of ethical life
  • freedom as recognition within institutions

Hegel is the pivot point. From him, the ideological branches diverge.

  • Marx takes Hegel’s dialectic and flips it upside down: materialism instead of Spirit, class instead of consciousness.
  • National Socialists reject Hegel because Marx used him, turning instead to Fichte and Herder.
  • Fascists borrow the Romantic–voluntarist elements (myth, will, unity) without the metaphysical system.

6. The Three Ideological Descendants

Marxism

  • class struggle
  • materialism
  • historical determinism
  • the dialectic inverted
  • the State as instrument of class rule

Marxism is Hegel without Spirit, Romanticism without the individual, and Fichte without the nation.

National Socialism

  • racial struggle
  • Volk as biological destiny
  • State supremacy
  • unity through exclusion
  • Fichtean nationalism + Herderian cultural unity

Nazism is Fichte radicalised, Herder racialised, and Romanticism weaponised.

Fascism

  • myth
  • will
  • unity
  • anti‑liberal modernism
  • the State as a living organism

Fascism is Romanticism without Rousseau, Fichte without metaphysics, and Hegel with the “correct” dialectic.

7. The Big Picture

All three ideologies — Marxism, National Socialism, and Fascism — draw from the same Romantic–Idealist well, but each selects different ingredients:

  • Marxism takes Hegel’s dialectic and Rousseau’s egalitarian moralism.
  • National Socialism takes Fichte’s nationalism and Herder’s Volk metaphysics.
  • Fascism takes Romantic will, myth, and the unified State.

They are siblings, not strangers — born from the same intellectual family, but raised in different political households.

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Jean-Jacques Rousseau: The Originator of Western Self-Loathing

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@maggiechapman The #LabourParty used to believe in #socialism - now, apparently, it believes in #NationalSocialism - but, as you rightly say, it will do them no good at all!
"What #CDU minister-president Schulze is calling for amounts to tying citizens’ allowance to compulsory labor—and thus to #forced #labor, which is #unconstitutional. Germany has seen that twice before: under #National-Socialism and in the GDR. Apparently, he wants to pick up where that left off."

RE: https://bsky.app/profile/did:plc:w74oq2nxtcdfvjf57q25laoy/post/3mededuzoxc2a

A quotation from George Orwell

One ought not to pay any attention to Hitler’s recent line of talk about being the friend of the poor man, the enemy of plutocracy, etc etc. Hitler’s real self is in Mein Kampf, and in his actions. He has never persecuted the rich, except when they were Jews or when they tried actively to oppose him. He stands for a centralised economy which robs the capitalist of most of his power but leaves the structure of society much as before. The State controls industry, but there are still rich and poor, masters and men. Therefore, as against genuine Socialism, the moneyed class have always been on his side. This was crystal clear at the time of the Spanish civil war, and clear again at the time when France surrendered. Hitler’s puppet government are not working men, but a gang of bankers, gaga generals and corrupt right-wing politicians.

George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
Essay (1941-02-19), “The Lion and the Unicorn: Socialism and the English Genius,” Part 2 “Shopkeepers at War,” sec. 3, The Searchlight Books [ed. Fyvel and Orwell]

More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/81894/

#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #orwell #georgeorwell #autocracy #classwarfare #economicinjustice #economicsystem #nationalsocialism #Nazi #plutocracy #rulingclass #socialism #upperclass

Orwell, George - Essay (1941-02-19), "The Lion and the Unicorn: Socialism and the English Genius," Part 2 "Shopkeepers at War," sec. 3, The Searchlight Books [ed. Fyvel and Orwell] | WIST Quotations

One ought not to pay any attention to Hitler’s recent line of talk about being the friend of the poor man, the enemy of plutocracy, etc etc. Hitler’s real self is in Mein Kampf, and in his actions. He has never persecuted the rich, except when they were Jews or…

WIST Quotations

A quotation from George Orwell

Fascism, at any rate the German version, is a form of capitalism that borrows from socialism just such features as will make it efficient for war purposes.
   Internally, Germany has a good deal in common with a Socialist state. Ownership has never been abolished, there are still capitalists and workers, and — this is the important point, and the real reason why rich men all over the world tend to sympathise with Fascism — generally speaking the same people are capitalists and the same people workers as before the Nazi revolution. But at the same time the State, which is simply the Nazi Party, is in control of everything. […]
   But the idea underlying Fascism is irreconcilably different from that which underlies Socialism. Socialism aims, ultimately, at a world-state of free and equal human beings. It takes equality of human rights for granted. Nazism assumes just the opposite. The driving force behind the Nazi movement is the belief in human inequality, the superiority of Germans to all other races, the right of Germany to rule the world.

George Orwell (1903-1950) English journalist, essayist, writer [pseud. of Eric Arthur Blair]
Essay (1941-02-19), “The Lion and the Unicorn: Socialism and the English Genius,” Part 2 “Shopkeepers at War,” sec. 1, The Searchlight Books [ed. Fyvel and Orwell]

More about this quote: wist.info/orwell-george/81726/

#quote #quotes #quotation #qotd #georgeorwell #capitalism #fascism #nationalsocialism #Nazi #socialism

Orwell, George - Essay (1941-02-19), "The Lion and the Unicorn: Socialism and the English Genius," Part 2 "Shopkeepers at War," sec. 1, The Searchlight Books [ed. Fyvel and Orwell] | WIST Quotations

Fascism, at any rate the German version, is a form of capitalism that borrows from socialism just such features as will make it efficient for war purposes. Internally, Germany has a good deal in common with a Socialist state. Ownership has never been abolished, there are still capitalists and workers,…

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Watched #JudgementAtNuremberg on #TCM yesterday afternoon. Had never seen the whole film from start to end. Many of the lines describing #Hitler, the #Nazis, and life under #NationalSocialism sounded contemporary. Great movie, very sobering in these times.

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